Don, have you connected your Tallmans to any that were in Franklin County? ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Old Obituary Lookup? > Thank you Glenn. > > Yes, John Stouffer and Hannah Price are well-documented in the 1926 George Wanger book "Descendants of Rev. Jacob Price/Preisz", as well as elsewhere. John was a son of Abraham Stouffer who built the mill at Falling Spring -- basically he was a founder of Chambersburg, PA, after the Revolution. Hannah was a daughter of Rev. Jacob Price, and a gg granddaughter of Rev. Jacob Preisz who was an immigrant and founder of the Church of the Brethren (German Baptist) in early Pennsylvania. Their graves are at the Brethren church at Falling Spring which I've visited and photographed. > > But, the parentage of the Smith men is a total mystery, at least to me. In the 1880 census, they both indicated their parents were born in Pennsylvania, so I believe they were raised there in Franklin County, or else nearby -- perhaps over in York. Unfortunately, in the 1820 and 1830 head of household censuses, there were multiple Smith families who had 2 males of the correct age, so I can't narrow it down with the censuses. > > The John Stouffer family were "Dunkers" -- German Baptists, apparently, although John's parents and most of the rest of the Stouffers were Mennonites. I think he went over to the Dunkers when he married Hannah Price, who was from that denomination. So their children were undoubtedly raised in the Dunker church. That makes me suspect that the two Smith men who married Elizabeth and Hannah may themselves have been of German background -- perhaps they were born Schmidts or something like that. William and Elizabeth later converted to United Brethren before or shortly after they migrated to Carroll County, Illinois. As far as I can tell, George and Hannah remained with the Dunkers -- they lived in Guilford Township and are reportedly buried at Marion. Because the German Baptists believe in adult baptism, there's not likely any early records of infant christenings, like you can find with Lutherans. > > Anyway, thank you for replying -- I appreciate the response. > > Don > > Donald L. Boyd > > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/o/y/Donald-Boyd-OH/index.html > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 8:17 AM > Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Old Obituary Lookup? > > Dear John: > I don't know if this will help or not ! I found on this CD : > John STOUFFER b. 30 Nov. 1787 d. 22 Jul. 1867 He married Hannah (ULN) b. 24 Apr. 1792 d. 15 Aug. 1863 They are both buried at The Falling Spring Brethern Cemetery in Guilford Township , Franklin County , PA. > Glenn E. Yeager > Genealogist > > > >From: [email protected] > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Old Obituary Lookup? > >Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:42:56 EDT > > > > > > > >In a message dated 9/20/2006 7:19:26 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, > >[email protected] writes: > > > >Two sisters, daughters of John Stouffer and Hannah Price, Elizabeth (1819) > >and Hannah (1821) married two Smith men, William (b.1814) and George >(b.1817), > > respectively. They may well have been brothers, but I can't determine >their > >parents. George Smith died 14 NOV 1886 at Marion, in Franklin County. I'd > >love to hear whether there was an obituary published, and whether it names >his > >parents or siblings. William Smith died in Carroll County, IL, and his > >obituary does not mention his parents or siblings. > > > > > ><> > > > >Ancestry shows them as brothers....for what is worth > > > >http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=boopreneau&id=I07521 > > > > > >Thanks! > > > >Don & Jeanine Hartman > >FamilyHart > >http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/familyhart/ > > > >Rootsweb List Admins for: > >Pennsylvania, PADutchGenONLY, Penna-Dutch, PAYork, PA-York-Gen, > >MD-Fred-Gen, MDWashin, Burket, Dierdorff, Gotshall, Glattfelder, Hartman, > >Kohr, Kaufman, Sturm > > > >USGENWEB CCs for: York Co., PA; Franklin Co., PA; Frederick Co., MD; > >Washington Co., MD > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > The next generation of Search—say hello! http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/searchlaunch/?locale=en-us&FORM=WLMTAG > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > > the message > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check out the new AOL. 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Hi Bonny, No, I didn't actually know there were any Tallmans in Franklin County! Do you suppose they came over from Berks -- I know there were Tallmans in Berks County at one point, although some or all of them migrated down to Rockingham County, VA before heading west to Ohio and on out to Iowa. Tell me more -- are you a Tallman descendant? Don Donald L. Boyd http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/o/y/Donald-Boyd-OH/index.html -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Tallman Don, have you connected your Tallmans to any that were in Franklin County? ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Old Obituary Lookup? > Thank you Glenn. > > Yes, John Stouffer and Hannah Price are well-documented in the 1926 George Wanger book "Descendants of Rev. Jacob Price/Preisz", as well as elsewhere. John was a son of Abraham Stouffer who built the mill at Falling Spring -- basically he was a founder of Chambersburg, PA, after the Revolution. Hannah was a daughter of Rev. Jacob Price, and a gg granddaughter of Rev. Jacob Preisz who was an immigrant and founder of the Church of the Brethren (German Baptist) in early Pennsylvania. Their graves are at the Brethren church at Falling Spring which I've visited and photographed. > > But, the parentage of the Smith men is a total mystery, at least to me. In the 1880 census, they both indicated their parents were born in Pennsylvania, so I believe they were raised there in Franklin County, or else nearby -- perhaps over in York. Unfortunately, in the 1820 and 1830 head of household censuses, there were multiple Smith families who had 2 males of the correct age, so I can't narrow it down with the censuses. > > The John Stouffer family were "Dunkers" -- German Baptists, apparently, although John's parents and most of the rest of the Stouffers were Mennonites. I think he went over to the Dunkers when he married Hannah Price, who was from that denomination. So their children were undoubtedly raised in the Dunker church. That makes me suspect that the two Smith men who married Elizabeth and Hannah may themselves have been of German background -- perhaps they were born Schmidts or something like that. William and Elizabeth later converted to United Brethren before or shortly after they migrated to Carroll County, Illinois. As far as I can tell, George and Hannah remained with the Dunkers -- they lived in Guilford Township and are reportedly buried at Marion. Because the German Baptists believe in adult baptism, there's not likely any early records of infant christenings, like you can find with Lutherans. > > Anyway, thank you for replying -- I appreciate the response. > > Don > > Donald L. Boyd > > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/o/y/Donald-Boyd-OH/index.html > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 8:17 AM > Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Old Obituary Lookup? > > Dear John: > I don't know if this will help or not ! I found on this CD : > John STOUFFER b. 30 Nov. 1787 d. 22 Jul. 1867 He married Hannah (ULN) b. 24 Apr. 1792 d. 15 Aug. 1863 They are both buried at The Falling Spring Brethern Cemetery in Guilford Township , Franklin County , PA. > Glenn E. Yeager > Genealogist > > > >From: [email protected] > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Old Obituary Lookup? > >Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:42:56 EDT > > > > > > > >In a message dated 9/20/2006 7:19:26 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, > >[email protected] writes: > > > >Two sisters, daughters of John Stouffer and Hannah Price, Elizabeth (1819) > >and Hannah (1821) married two Smith men, William (b.1814) and George >(b.1817), > > respectively. They may well have been brothers, but I can't determine >their > >parents. George Smith died 14 NOV 1886 at Marion, in Franklin County. I'd > >love to hear whether there was an obituary published, and whether it names >his > >parents or siblings. William Smith died in Carroll County, IL, and his > >obituary does not mention his parents or siblings. > > > > > ><> > > > >Ancestry shows them as brothers....for what is worth > > > >http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=boopreneau&id=I07521 > > > > > >Thanks! > > > >Don & Jeanine Hartman > >FamilyHart > >http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/familyhart/ > > > >Rootsweb List Admins for: > >Pennsylvania, PADutchGenONLY, Penna-Dutch, PAYork, PA-York-Gen, > >MD-Fred-Gen, MDWashin, Burket, Dierdorff, Gotshall, Glattfelder, Hartman, > >Kohr, Kaufman, Sturm > > > >USGENWEB CCs for: York Co., PA; Franklin Co., PA; Frederick Co., MD; > >Washington Co., MD > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > The next generation of Search—say hello! http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/searchlaunch/?locale=en-us&FORM=WLMTAG > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > > the message > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check out the new AOL. 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