Shelley, I think you're so lucky to have a baptism record. What church was that taken from? That would give you a clue as to what church they went to. To answer number one, I don't think there are any records for the county that early. The baptism record usually will do for a birth record. As for your other questions, unless you can find other church records, you may not be able to figure out the birth dates. Where did you find that James was born in Shippensburg? On what document, I mean.... Just kind of thinking out loud, so to speak. Also, what was William's occupation? That may have something to do with the moving all around. Do you know where this family went? Can you find cemetery records (that will give you birth dates, sometimes) Otterbein was a United Brethren minister. The United Brethren and Methodist are now combined, but back then weren't too far from each other. United Brethren is different then the Brethren Church you are thinking of. I don't think that they would have been a part of that Brethren, as some of those Brethren are considered "Plain People". Beth Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelley" <keli1@aol.com> To: <PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:32 PM Subject: [PAFRANKL] Question and discussion | | Hi Franklin County researchers. I have a couple of questions to pose to help understand some information I have. I would appreciate any input or suggestions that you share. I am hitting a brick wall. I know there are other Davis families in Franklin Co, | | My great great grandfather William Davis (b. abt. 1814) lived in Antrim, so noted on the 1843 Tax List and 1850 census. I have not verified that he was living there prior to 1843, but would assume based on other information, such as a birth of a child. He sold his property in 1858 and the family left the area. William and his wife Mildred had a son born in 11838/39 in Chambersburg (Joseph Brand Davis), a second son born in Shippensburg in 1849/50, and the rest have not been verified but assumed to also be born somewhere in Franklin County, with daughter Susan being born in 1855, son William Otterbein Davis being born in 1857. This family is documented as mulatto, William is assumed to be? the child or grandchild of a white and black slave. | | 1. any records available to verify Joseph B. Davis's birth in Chambersburg (info was taken from baptism record)? | 2. if living in Antrim, why would James be born in Shippensburg (birth listed as Franklin County Pa on death record)? | 3. any reocrds avaible to verify Susan and William O's birth's.? Otterbein is the name of the founder of the Brethern church. maybe they went to that church, not sure. | | Thanks, Shelley | ? | | | | | | ?Remember Today's SOLDIER is Tomorrow's VETERAN | Know your Roots, They are Long and Strong | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message |

Hi Beth, thanks for responding, this helps figure out things. Joseph B. Davis church record was in a Michigan church, when he joined the ReOrganized Church of the LDS, in Benzie Michigan, it listed his birthdate and birthplace as Chambersburg which we only knew PA, but not sure where or did not have his birthdate. Now William Davis did sell his property in 1858 to Rev. William Coursey with the United Brethern Church in Franklin Co. I have not located the specific land, have tried but no luck yet. The family left Franklin Co. Pa in 1858, went to Ohio for a couple of years then on to MIchigan. I have everything for MIchigan and some info in Ohio. William was a farmer. Thanks... Shelley, I think you're so lucky to have a baptism record. What church was that taken from? That would give you a clue as to what church they went to. To answer number one, I don't think there are any records for the county that early. The baptism record usually will do for a birth record. As for your other questions, unless you can find other church records, you may not be able to figure out the birth dates. Where did you find that James was born in Shippensburg? On what document, I mean.... Just kind of thinking out loud, so to speak. Also, what was William's occupation? That may have something to do with the moving all around. Do you know where this family went? Can you find cemetery records (that will give you birth dates, sometimes) Otterbein was a United Brethren minister. The United Brethren and Methodist are now combined, but back then weren't too far from each other. United Brethren is different then the Brethren Church you are thinking of. I don't think that they would have been a part of that Brethren, as some of those Brethren are considered "Plain People". Beth Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelley" <keli1@aol.com> To: <PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:32 PM Subject: [PAFRANKL] Question and discussion | | Hi Franklin County researchers. I have a couple of questions to pose to help understand some information I have. I would appreciate any input or suggestions that you share. I am hitting a brick wall. I know there are other Davis families in Franklin Co, | | My great great grandfather William Davis (b. abt. 1814) lived in Antrim, so noted on the 1843 Tax List and 1850 census. I have not verified that he was living there prior to 1843, but would assume based on other information, such as a birth of a child. He sold his property in 1858 and the family left the area. William and his wife Mildred had a son born in 11838/39 in Chambersburg (Joseph Brand Davis), a second son born in Shippensburg in 1849/50, and the rest have not been verified but assumed to also be born somewhere in Franklin County, with daughter Susan being born in 1855, son William Otterbein Davis being born in 1857. This family is documented as mulatto, William is assumed to be? the child or grandchild of a white and black slave. | | 1. any records available to verify Joseph B. Davis's birth in Chambersburg (info was taken from baptism record)? | 2. if living in Antrim, why would James be born in Shippensburg (birth listed as Franklin County Pa on death record)? | 3. any reocrds avaible to verify Susan and William O's birth's.? Otterbein is the name of the founder of the Brethern church. maybe they went to that church, not sure. | | Thanks, Shelley | ? | | | | | | ?Remember Today's SOLDIER is Tomorrow's VETERAN | Know your Roots, They are Long and Strong | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message |

Regarding the Shippensburg-James B. Davis died in Michigan 1867, it was on his death record that he was born in Shippensburg FR PA.? I am not sure why they lived in Antrim and he is born in Shippensburg, unless they were visiting family, I heard there were two Davis family there, but not sure they are connected yet. William Davis ' father would be white or his grandfather is white. Thanks ?Remember Today's SOLDIER is Tomorrow's VETERAN Know your Roots, They are Long and Strong -----Original Message----- From: Beth Ann Deardorff <badrenn@embarqmail.com> To: PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com; Shelley <keli1@aol.com> Sent: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 8:47 pm Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Question and discussion Shelley, I think you're so lucky to have a baptism record. What church was that taken from? That would give you a clue as to what church they went to. To answer number one, I don't think there are any records for the county that early. The baptism record usually will do for a birth record. As for your other questions, unless you can find other church records, you may not be able to figure out the birth dates. Where did you find that James was born in Shippensburg? On what document, I mean.... Just kind of thinking out loud, so to speak. Also, what was William's occupation? That may have something to do with the moving all around. Do you know where this family went? Can you find cemetery records (that will give you birth dates, sometimes) Otterbein was a United Brethren minister. The United Brethren and Methodist are now combined, but back then weren't too far from each other. United Brethren is different then the Brethren Church you are thinking of. I don't think that they would have been a part of that Brethren, as some of those Brethren are considered "Plain People". Beth Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelley" <keli1@aol.com> To: <PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:32 PM Subject: [PAFRANKL] Question and discussion | | Hi Franklin County researchers. I have a couple of questions to pose to help understand some information I have. I would appreciate any input or suggestions that you share. I am hitting a brick wall. I know there are other Davis families in Franklin Co, | | My great great grandfather William Davis (b. abt. 1814) lived in Antrim, so noted on the 1843 Tax List and 1850 census. I have not verified that he was living there prior to 1843, but would assume based on other information, such as a birth of a child. He sold his property in 1858 and the family left the area. William and his wife Mildred had a son born in 11838/39 in Chambersburg (Joseph Brand Davis), a second son born in Shippensburg in 1849/50, and the rest have not been verified but assumed to also be born somewhere in Franklin County, with daughter Susan being born in 1855, son William Otterbein Davis being born in 1857. This family is documented as mulatto, William is assumed to be? the child or grandchild of a white and black slave. | | 1. any records available to verify Joseph B. Davis's birth in Chambersburg (info was taken from baptism record)? | 2. if living in Antrim, why would James be born in Shippensburg (birth listed as Franklin County Pa on death record)? | 3. any reocrds avaible to verify Susan and William O's birth's.? Otterbein is the name of the founder of the Brethern church. maybe they went to that church, not sure. | | Thanks, Shelley | ? | | | | | | ?Remember Today's SOLDIER is Tomorrow's VETERAN | Know your Roots, They are Long and Strong | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message |

Shelly, As far as the death record goes, much of that is given by a family member. Maybe they couldn't remember Chambersburg and said Shippensburg by mistake!! This practice still goes on today. When my father-in-law died (2001) I was there when they were filling out the paperwork. When they asked questions about where he was born, and his mothers maiden name, Everyone turned and looked at me!! I gave those answers to the best of my knowledge, but I was really surprised. Beth Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: Shelley To: badrenn@embarqmail.com ; PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Question and discussion Regarding the Shippensburg-James B. Davis died in Michigan 1867, it was on his death record that he was born in Shippensburg FR PA. I am not sure why they lived in Antrim and he is born in Shippensburg, unless they were visiting family, I heard there were two Davis family there, but not sure they are connected yet. William Davis ' father would be white or his grandfather is white. Thanks Remember Today's SOLDIER is Tomorrow's VETERAN Know your Roots, They are Long and Strong -----Original Message----- From: Beth Ann Deardorff <badrenn@embarqmail.com> To: PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com; Shelley <keli1@aol.com> Sent: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 8:47 pm Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Question and discussion Shelley, I think you're so lucky to have a baptism record. What church was that taken from? That would give you a clue as to what church they went to. To answer number one, I don't think there are any records for the county that early. The baptism record usually will do for a birth record. As for your other questions, unless you can find other church records, you may not be able to figure out the birth dates. Where did you find that James was born in Shippensburg? On what document, I mean.... Just kind of thinking out loud, so to speak. Also, what was William's occupation? That may have something to do with the moving all around. Do you know where this family went? Can you find cemetery records (that will give you birth dates, sometimes) Otterbein was a United Brethren minister. The United Brethren and Methodist are now combined, but back then weren't too far from each other. United Brethren is different then the Brethren Church you are thinking of. I don't think that they would have been a part of that Brethren, as some of those Brethren are considered "Plain People". Beth Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelley" <keli1@aol.com> To: <PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:32 PM Subject: [PAFRANKL] Question and discussion | | Hi Franklin County researchers. I have a couple of questions to pose to help understand some information I have. I would appreciate any input or suggestions that you share. I am hitting a brick wall. I know there are other Davis families in Franklin Co, | | My great great grandfather William Davis (b. abt. 1814) lived in Antrim, so noted on the 1843 Tax List and 1850 census. I have not verified that he was living there prior to 1843, but would assume based on other information, such as a birth of a child. He sold his property in 1858 and the family left the area. William and his wife Mildred had a son born in 11838/39 in Chambersburg (Joseph Brand Davis), a second son born in Shippensburg in 1849/50, and the rest have not been verified but assumed to also be born somewhere in Franklin County, with daughter Susan being born in 1855, son William Otterbein Davis being born in 1857. This family is documented as mulatto, William is assumed to be? the child or grandchild of a white and black slave. | | 1. any records available to verify Joseph B. Davis's birth in Chambersburg (info was taken from baptism record)? | 2. if living in Antrim, why would James be born in Shippensburg (birth listed as Franklin County Pa on death record)? | 3. any reocrds avaible to verify Susan and William O's birth's.? Otterbein is the name of the founder of the Brethern church. maybe they went to that church, not sure. | | Thanks, Shelley | ? | | | | | | ?Remember Today's SOLDIER is Tomorrow's VETERAN | Know your Roots, They are Long and Strong | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!