Hi Gordon, Thanks again for help with access to the book: "A Short History of the Presbyterian Churches in Ballymoney" by Rev. A.H. Dill and others, 1898. Now I see Full text is also listed on "Internet Archives" at http://www.archive.org/stream/cu31924008573887/cu31924008573887_djvu.txt Interesting to me that the book was digitized from Olin Library, Cornell University, where I worked as Library Assistant from 1964-67. (I should have been researching my genealogy there!) Page 11-12 mentions "THOMAS ELDER" Chapter 1. Early Settlers of the Route. 10. ..."an old manuscript book has been preserved and has come into the possession of the Session of the congregation. This book, brown and worn with age, many of its leaves torn and defaced, and parts of it missing altogether, is all that remains of the records of the congregation of Ballymoney from its beginning till the year 1817. .." 11. ..."Amongst the earliest names occurring in this old record are the following : John Boyd, Robert McElhose, Benjamin Boyle, Robert Biggart, John Hopkin, Hugh McMaster, John Hamil, Thomas Elder, John Lusk, John Ramsay, Alex. Dunlop, and Alex. Calderwood ; all of whom were elders of the church, and took part in the meetings of Session. Several of these are of special interest because they are the direct ancestors of families still in connection with the Presbyterian Churches of Ballymoney...." 12. "The Hamils, Elders and Lusks, the Ramsays and McMasters have branched out in many directions, and have given many prominent and useful members to the Presbyterian Church...." Nancy's notes: Of course, I still have to prove which ELDER DNA line this is for Thomas ELDER. He may belong to the "PAXTANG PA" I-haplogroup-Viking ELDER DNA group, instead of my "FRANKLIN CO PA" R1b ELDER DNA group. see DNA Results charts: at http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder Nancy Elder Petersen Volunteer Host, ELDER DNA project