There was a query a few days back about histories of the county from one of our list colleages who wanted to "read up", and I thought, that's a good idea--I'd like to do that, too. So I dug out the bibliography of county histories and found several for Franklin County. Where to find one? I tried the used and rare bookseller, Alibris. Lo and behold, they had Israel D. Rupp's monumental work on several counties, including Franklin -- for $1250.00. I kept looking at it, trying to make it $12.50, but no luck. So I gave that idea up. Then a few days later, I was looking for something else in the Red Book, and lo and behold, it mentioned in passing that many early Pennsylvania histories, narratives and manuscripts (including Rupp) are available on microfilm from the LDS. That strikes me as a miserable way to try to read a book, but I pass it along for whatever it might be worth. Incidentally, in the process of doing this, I discovered 53 titles (I think it was 53) for Franklin County, PA in the Library of Congress, including a number of genealogy books with surnames listed. I thought I saw some that sounded familiar from our list, though I wouldn't swear to it. No Gelwicks, Koutz, or Zimmerman, though. C'est l'vie. And I will get back to Rupp/Rupe one of these days. Judy Hall