UGH I'm really upset with how my nice table wrapped into an ugly and worthless piece of trash. Try this instead. common ancestor > gggrandparent < common ancestor ggrandparent siblings ggrandparent grandparent 1st cousins grandparent parent 2nd cousins parent your dad 3rd cousins your dad's cousin I test sent it to myself and it looks much more like what I had intended. Chock one up to lessons learned... :) Carey Chilcote -- Researching Chilcote/Chilcoat and related Booher, David, Fleck, Harris, Rutter, Smith and others...