Joseph E Wolfe Thank you for the very generous offer. Here is what I know of my Smith family. Henry Smith b. abt 1734, probably Germany, wife unknown but probably born in USA. Children: Joseph Smith, b. in PA most likely. John Smith b...abt. 1758, PA most likely, M..Nancy Beatty, b.. abt 1760, has been described as half Irish & half Yank. Mary Smith b....in PA most likely. Never married, but had dau. named Elizabeth. Elizabeth Smith b...abt 1766, married Augustus Barber Rachel Smith b..abt 1770, m..John McGahen Abraham Smith b.. in PA most likely Benjamin Smith b. abt 1765, in Pa most likely. Children of John Smith & Nancy Beatty ( above ). Joseph Smith b. 1786, in PA, most likely. Jane Smith b...abt 1788 Henry Smith b... abt 1790. Catherine Smith b...abt 1792. Daniel Smith b...abt 1798. Rachel Smith b...abt 1801, West Whitby, Upper Can. John Benjamin Smith b... West Whitby, Upper Can. ( my line ) Henry Smith and most of the children migrated to Upper Canada ( Ontario ) about 1790 as Loyalists, but not military. Henry was a land holder in the USA, but we do not know where. Old letters state probably PA. It is possible Henry and father, Joseph? arrived Philadelphia in 1754 aboard the Henrietta, but not sure. We have been unable to trace them from either end. Any help is greatfully appreciated. Mark L. McOmber McOmber@Montana.com