Hi Listers, Looking for advice and help........Plan to visit Franklin County when the weather breaks, I am interested in very old county records circa 1790. I found my gggggrandfather, Dugal McCartney (McCarty) (1756-1822) in the 1790 census-page 115, (although unable to ascertain the township) this is where he married and started his family of five. In 1795 he moved to Huntingdon County where he has been fairly easy to track. I am interested in birth dates of his children: John (1788-1865), Lewis (c1790-1833) , Jane (McPherson) (c1792-b1860), Martha (Hunter) (c1793-1857) & Allen (c1795-b1850), his marriage to Margaret (no surname, possibly Gwin) (c1760-b1800). I also am interested in his service in the Revolutionary War, either on the Continental Line or in the Franklin Co militia. I assume the marriage and birth records would be at the local church, since the state was not keeping these records at the time. But unfortunately I don't know the township. Is there a collection of the old Presbyterian church records anywhere? Are there any Rev. War Militia Records available? Should I visit the courthouse for land records or is everything located at the historical society? Any advice & help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Sharon

Will send this to the entire list so that others can chime in-- In the 1790 census, your Dugal McCartney is living near Hannah Maxell who died 1805 in Montgomery Twp. Neighbors James Ramsey andJohn Golden are mentioned in the will of John Jerritt who died 1801 in Montgomery, so it is probably safe to assume that your Dugal lived in Montgomery. The only church that I know of in Montgomery with existing records from this time period is Upper West Conococheague Presbyterian of Mercersburg. I checked those records. There is a Henry McCarty but no Dugal. Maybe someone can help here??? On your visit you probably should plan to visit both the Historical Society and the courthouse. Kittochtinny has the early land warrants, including those from Lancaster and Cumberland that pertain to Franklin (I do not know if they are complete) The courthouse has the deeds and complete copies of the wills. Fortunately, the two are very close together. You can walk between them in just a few minutes. I also have a McCartney (Carty/ McCarty) from this area: William McCartney (a1760-1808 Fannett Twp, Franklin County, PA) married 1781 Anne Wallace (a1765-p1808), daughter of William Wallace (d a1791 Franklin) and his wife Margaret. Children of William and Anne: 1. William W. (1785 Franklin-1864 Franklin) married 1811 Spring Run Presbyterian, Jane Wilson (1782-1863) daughter of George Wilson and Isabella Bennett. William and Jane are both buried at Spring Run. 7 children 2. Margaret (c1790-p1850) married 1828 Spring Run to David Elder (died a1850 Juniata County). 3 known children 3. James (c1788 or1796-1860) No issue. The variation in James birth dates are from the census and his tombstone. 4. Isabella (c1792-1870) 5. Elizabeth (c1799-1859) The last three children never married and always lived together, and next door to their brother William and his family. They are all buried in Spring Run Presbyterian Cemetery. If you ever run into any information on the parents of William McCartney Sr, I would appreciate your sending it to me. Thanks! Carolyn > Hi Listers, > Looking for advice and help........Plan to visit Franklin County when the weather breaks, I am interested in very old county records circa 1790. > I found my gggggrandfather, Dugal McCartney (McCarty) (1756-1822) in the 1790 census-page 115, (although unable to ascertain the township) this is where he married and started his family of five. In 1795 he moved to Huntingdon County where he has been fairly easy to track. > I am interested in birth dates of his children: John (1788-1865), Lewis (c1790-1833) , Jane (McPherson) (c1792-b1860), Martha (Hunter) (c1793-1857) & Allen (c1795-b1850), his marriage to Margaret (no surname, possibly Gwin) (c1760-b1800). I also am interested in his service in the Revolutionary War, either on the Continental Line or in the Franklin Co militia. > I assume the marriage and birth records would be at the local church, since the state was not keeping these records at the time. But unfortunately I don't know the township. Is there a collection of the old Presbyterian church records anywhere? > Are there any Rev. War Militia Records available? Should I visit the courthouse for land records or is everything located at the historical society? > Any advice & help would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks Sharon >