PRONI (Public Records Office of Northern Ireland will be closed for a while while they move to new quarters, anyone planning a visit should check out their schedule below: http://news.bbc.uk/1/hi/northernireland/8236790.stm Gordon Crooks

ZACHARIAS - Janet Z. Jerald, age 91, of 28 Sherwood Street, Mansfield died Friday, December 26, 1975 at home following an extended illness. born March 7, 1894 in Chambersburg, she was the daughter of William and Mary Jane Boyd Zacharias. Mrs. Jerald was an active member of the First Presbyterian Church of Mansfield and a member of the National Society of Daughters of the American Revolution. She is survived by three daughters, Mrs. Kenneth [Mary] Boyd Meinert of Atlantic Highlands, NJ, Miss Esther Adelaide Jerald of Morrestown, NJ and Mrs. Samuel [Barbara] Greenawalt of Glens Falls, NY; four brothers, Robert M. Zacharias of Sea Island, GA, John Zacharias of Auburn, Nebraska, Boyd Zacharias of Philadelphia and Scott Zacharias of Harrisburg; two granddaughters and one great-grandson. There was no visitation. A private prayer service was held at the Kuhl Funeral Home. - Wellsboro Gazette, January 1, 1976

Hi Eileen, You might want to look at the Family Hart database of Dutch names: http://midatlantic.rootsweb.ancestry.com/database/surnames.htm You can see any known variants. Also try looking at variations of Allman without Van in front. Of course, when reading census records consider all possible variants you can think of. Not only did census takers make mistakes but so have the transcribers. [Alman, Aleman, Allmen, Almond, Almon, Almen, Von Allman, etc.] Tink At 07:49 PM 9/1/09, Eileen VanAllman wrote: >I think the spelling of the surname I am searching was probably changed. >Does anyone have a clue what VAN ALLMAN could have been back in the >mother country? >Eileen > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

These tax lists are probably the sort of things that should be placed on-line or with the LDS.? I know I had someone in Harrisburg check under limited surnames and spellings for some years, and she did a very good job with what I requested.? The problem is, that for those of us doing genealogy we continually dig up new surnames of other people that intermarried, or previously unknown sisters who married and hence would show under different surnames. And often the PA Dutch surnames get misspelled and even with different beginning letters, hence on different pages than anticipated.??These lists are?pretty inaccessible to those outside of PA or even? those in PA and distant from?the areas where the microfilms are held, and so it makes it difficult to progress with research in Franklin Co. in the early years save with the ten year apart census records. ?If the tax microfilms had been distributed to the LDS as they have with other counties that would have changed the picture. ?Ma! ybe with time someone with access to these lists will digitize some of them as they have done in other PA counties or see why they haven't been distributed to the LDS.? I know that often some of the handwriting becomes difficult to decipher, but the researcher who checked for me for these early 1800?Antrim Twp. lists?didn't seem to have any problem with those lists. Richard

I think the spelling of the surname I am searching was probably changed. Does anyone have a clue what VAN ALLMAN could have been back in the mother country? Eileen

I'd also like to know if the LDS has microfilmed any tax records of Antrim T.? It seems that the last I checked they either did not have them or didn't have them for the years I needed. Richard

The records are on film at the Franklin County Historical Society. Some of them are also available from Salt Lake library thru your local Family History Center. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Majtenyi" <jmajtenyi@wowway.com> To: <PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 12:12 PM Subject: [PAFRANKL] Tax records > Can someone tell me where to find tax records (personal property/real > estate) for the years 1800 to 1810? I am particularly interested in the > following townships: Antrim, Greene, Hamilton, and Peters. Thanks, Joan > in > Ohio > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This shows all the counties of Ireland in addition to Antrim and could be helpful in tracing back your ancestors Gordon Crooks This has some interesting bits and pieces from Co. Antrim and other counties. http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Photos | Links | Database | Members | Calendar Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity Visit Your Group Give Back Yahoo! for Good Get inspired by a good cause. Y! Toolbar Get it Free! easy 1-click access to your groups. Yahoo! Groups Start a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. . __,_._,___ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.72/2337 - Release Date: 08/31/09 05:50:00

Can someone tell me where to find tax records (personal property/real estate) for the years 1800 to 1810? I am particularly interested in the following townships: Antrim, Greene, Hamilton, and Peters. Thanks, Joan in Ohio

To clarify, the NLI has the 1911 Irish census online for all 32 counties. The 1901 census is underway and expected soon (before year's end?). These are the first two censuses that survive for all of Ireland (fragments of some earlier censuses survive, but are rare). Later censuses are still under privacy protection. Claire K seekay@comcast.net On Aug 28, 2009, at 2:03 PM, Gordon Crooks@verizon.net wrote: > As of this date the census for all 32 counties of Ireland are > available from about 1800 forward > > go to: www.nationalarchives.ie this can help you trace your > ancestors back to Ireland. > >

As of this date the census for all 32 counties of Ireland are available from about 1800 forward go to: www.nationalarchives.ie this can help you trace your ancestors back to Ireland. Gordon Crooks

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You forgot to post the URL. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Crooks@verizon.net" <gordoncrooks@verizon.net> To: <PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 8:31 AM Subject: [PAFRANKL] Fw: Check out CensusMate - Details of the early census &links to other useful si > Hi Folks: For those who get mired in the census reports, this URL site has > a great deal of info on the history of the U.S. Census. > > Gordon Crooks > > > Click here: CensusMate - Details of the early census & links to other > useful sites. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.70/2329 - Release Date: 08/27/09 > 08:11:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Try the Hayes (presidential library)?on-line library index to check for an obit.? They have a ton of obits indexed for Tiffin, and you can order them through the library in Tiffin by using the Hayes site. Richard Recently found a death certificate for Charles William Springer, born 12 feb 1836, died 15 oct 1925, Fostoria, Seneca Co, OH.? It lists his birth place as Franklin Co, PA and his parentss as Charles Nelson Springer and Barbara Zullinger.?? Information given by William Springer, 13386 Madison Ave, Cleveland.? Does anyone have any information on this family?

Recently found a death certificate for Charles William Springer, born 12 feb 1836, died 15 oct 1925, Fostoria, Seneca Co, OH. It lists his birth place as Franklin Co, PA and his parentss as Charles Nelson Springer and Barbara Zullinger. Information given by William Springer, 13386 Madison Ave, Cleveland. Does anyone have any information on this family?

Some folks couldn't open the PRONI URL, try this one instead Gordon Crooks ----- Original Message ----- From: incoming.yahoo.verizon.net To: Eileen VanAllman Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 9:54 AM Subject: Fw: Gordon Eileen; Here youi go. Gordon. Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 8:58 AM Subject: Re: Gordon http://news. bbc.co.uk/ go/em/fr/ -/1/hi/northern_ ireland/8152832. stm ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 8:07 AM Subject: Gordon -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.36/2272 - Release Date: 07/30/09 05:58:00

For those trying to trace their ancestors back to Northern Ireland and dealing with PRONI (Public Record Office of N. Ireland) this URL will give you some information on the subject. They are still in their old quarters but are soon to move to their new building. As with dealing with any public agency take two asprin before hand, a brandy flask with you and the patience of Job !. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/1/hi/northernireland/8152832.stm Gordon Crooks

Today, in celebration of Pioneer Day, we have updated our database. We now have over 600,000 linked names online. We have thousands of families from Franklin and Lancaster counties. You may see what we have done at: http://familyhart.info Thanks! Don & Jeanine Hartman FamilyHart http://familyhart.info twitter-@familyhart Rootsweb List Admins for: Pennsylvania, PADutchGenONLY, Penna-Dutch, PAYork, PA-York-Gen, MD-Fred-Gen, MDWashin, Burket, Dierdorff, Gotshall, Glattfelder, Hartman, Kohr, Kaufman, Shirk, Sturm USGENWEB CCs for: Adams Co., PA; Franklin Co., PA: Lancaster Co., PA; York Co., PA; Frederick Co., MD; Washington Co., MD Any genealogical information sent to FamilyHart grants permission to use that information for any genealogical purposes by FamilyHart.

Someone asked me sometime ago to try and find their Byer ancester, well I found him and took several photos of his tombstone and yes he is S.A.R. and he is in the small cemetery off of Grindstone Hill on Reservoir Road. Contact me for the details and pictures. Gordon Crooks