I suggested they move it to Franklin Co., Pa. and told them they do a terrific job and maintains theirs. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Snyder" <tsnyder888@msn.com> To: <mdwashin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 2:32 PM Subject: [MDWashin] Bachtell cemetery > > Listers: > > There is an article in today's (Oct. 12) Herald-Mail about a neglected > Bachtell family cemetery near Old Forge Elementary School. They are > looking for someone to take over the care and maintenance of the cemetery. > Check out the article online at: > > http://www.herald-mail.com/?cmd=displaystory&story_id=232088&format=html > > > > It is under a regular column entitled, "What's Wrong with this picture?" > > Tim Snyder > > > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/MDWASHIN > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDWASHIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.12/2431 - Release Date: 10/12/09 13:01:00

Hello Fellow Listers: The Perry Historians, a genealogical library located just north-east of New Bloomfield, Perry Co., PA. is hosting another of their Special Presentations on Sunday, October 25, 2009 at 2:00 p.m. at their library in the Hoverter Archives building. Special speaker, Mr. Andrew Wyatt is an archaeologist at the Harrisburg office of McCormick Taylor, Inc.. Since 1986, Mr. Wyatt has conducted fieldwork and analysis on Native American sites in the Northeast and Middle Atlantic regions. He received a B.A. in Anthropology from the State University of New York, Albany and an M.A. in Anthropology from Temple University. The title of Mr. Wyatt's presentation is "An Early Seventeenth Century Susquehannock Village in the Great Valley: The Lemoyne Borough Memorial Park Site". Mr. Wyatt will speak on the recent archaeological excavations in advance of rail line construction, which resulted in the discovery and partial excavation of a previously unknown Susquehannock village site dating to the early seventeenth century. This presentation will feature the site, its artifacts, and its relationship to the more well-known Susquehannock villages in Lancaster and York counties. This is FREE to all and all are welcome to attend. Light refreshments will be served following the presentation. For more information about The Perry Historians - http://www.ThePerryHistorians.org Physical street address: 763 Dix Hill Rd., New Bloomfield, PA. 17068 Mailing address: PO Box 73, Newport, PA. 17074-0073 Directions: Located on right hand side of Route 34 North, 2 miles from the square of New Bloomfield, or left hand side of Route 34 South, 4 miles from Newport.

Does anyone have access to marriage records? I'm looking for a marriage of John BRUBAKER and Catherine OILER/OYLER on Feb 4, 1864............................. Thanks so much for any help! Sharon in Fl.

Hello Fellow Listers: The Perry Historians, a genealogical library located just north-east of New Bloomfield, Perry Co., PA. is hosting another of their Special Presentations on Sunday, October 25, 2009 at 2:00 p.m. at their library in the Hoverter Archives building. Special speaker, Mr. Andrew Wyatt is an archaeologist at the Harrisburg office of McCormick Taylor, Inc.. Since 1986, Mr. Wyatt has conducted fieldwork and analysis on Native American sites in the Northeast and Middle Atlantic regions. He received a B.A. in Anthropology from the State University of New York, Albany and an M.A. in Anthropology from Temple University. The title of Mr. Wyatt's presentation is "An Early Seventeenth Century Susquehannock Village in the Great Valley: The Lemoyne Borough Memorial Park Site". Mr. Wyatt will speak on the recent archaeological excavations in advance of rail line construction, which resulted in the discovery and partial excavation of a previously unknown Susquehannock village site dating to the early seventeenth century. This presentation will feature the site, its artifacts, and its relationship to the more well-known Susquehannock villages in Lancaster and York counties. This is FREE to all and all are welcome to attend. Light refreshments will be served following the presentation. For more information about The Perry Historians - http://www.ThePerryHistorians.org Physical street address: 763 Dix Hill Rd., New Bloomfield, PA. 17068 Mailing address: PO Box 73, Newport, PA. 17074-0073 Directions: Located on right hand side of Route 34 North, 2 miles from the square of New Bloomfield, or left hand side of Route 34 South, 4 miles from Newport.

Who else out there is researching OYLER-OILER-EULERs???? I think a bunch of misinformation is out there and all mixed up between the ones in Franklin Co, & Fulton Co.............................They all could well be related somehow although I have never come across any proof...............................I saw one family tree on line that says Henry EYLER-OILER son of one of the ones in Franklin County was killed at Cold Harbor, VA...................That's not true unless he was there too?? The one killed at Cold Harbor June 3, 1864 was Henry OYLER, son of Henry OYLER/EILER and Sophia OMMERT/OMART of Fulton County................I have his mother's (Sophia's) pension she put in for his service.................. Another one is a Catherine OYLER who married John BURUBAKER and moved to Whiteside Co, Illinois.......................I think this is not a Franklin County OYLER but a daughter of Henry and Sophia OMMERT OYLER of Fulton County..............I'm going to send for her death certificate to see what it says so.............................. I am researching and would appreciate any help on these two.........I think they are brothers but never found that proof either...... *****J. (probably Johan) George EULER/OYLER b 1811 Germany, d 1897 Fulton Co,Pa. - ,mrd. Mary unknown b ca 1822, d 1905 1. John William b 1845 2. Samuel B b. 1847 3. Jacob b 1849 4. James b 1853 5. Mary Jane b 1856 6. Margaret b 1858 ********and then; Henry EULER/OYLER b Feb 1808 Germany- d feb 14, 1892Fulton Co, Pa.- mrd Sophia OMMERT/OMART b feb 1813, d 1 April, 1903 1. Adam b 1846 2 Margaret b 1845 3 Rebecca b 1853 4 George W. b 1842 5 Mary b 1848 6 Elizabeth b 1850 7 Henry b 1838 8 Catherine b 1840 According to J George's naturaliztion papers he came about 1821 to Baltimore and then they went to Pittsburgh for awhile...........................1821 ship records for Baltimore and his port he left "from" do not exist any more at all............. Thanks for any help!! I do not need any census or stuff like that...........I do have more on alot of these two families kids.....I've been tracking them all down and still can not find a couple of them........ Thanks so much!! Sharon Frank in Fl.

----- Original Message ----- From: KBShockey@aol.com To: undisclosed-recipients: Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 6:42 PM Subject: October Monthly Museum Meeting You are invited to the Allison-Antrim Museum annual membership meeting to be held Thursday, October 8, 2009 in the downstairs social room of the Evangelical Lutheran Church, 130 North Washington St, Greencastle, PA beginning at 7 pm. AAMI member Joyce Horst, native of Franklin County and a long-time student of Franklin County's history, will present a slide show entitled “Scenic and Historic Franklin County,” a travelogue of photographs associated with historical sites from the Colonial through the Civil War eras. Horst is a member and director of the Franklin County Historical Society – Kittochtinny. She conducts tours on a regular basis for both the historical society and the Franklin County Visitors Bureau. Just prior to the speaker, a brief annual business meeting will be held, including the election of AAMI directors. Guests are welcome. There is no admission fee but donations will be accepted toward the speaker series. For more information contact Bonnie A. Shockey at 597.9325. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.3/2415 - Release Date: 10/05/09 06:19:00

Several of the Shanks in Franklin Co. were PA Germans from Shanks born in the 1700's in Lancaster Co. PA, and some lived in MD along the PA border. I haven't done a complete study of all of those of that name in Franklin Co., however, so maybe you will want to do that Gordon. Here are two that originated from Lancaster Co., via German lines. I had several lines of my own of Shank that didn't stay long in Franklin Co., but came direct from Lancaster Co., and believe these were German Baptist and definitely PA German, and related further back to the first post at least: John (Schenk) Shank Birth: 1753 in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania Death: JAN 1818 in Washington County, Maryland Burial: John Shank Cemetery, Leitersburg, Washington County, Maryland Father: Christian (Schenk) Shank b: ABT 1720 in Lancaster Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania Mother: Anna Nolt b: ABT 1720 in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania Marriage 1 Magdalena Ellenberger (Molly) Kauffman b: 1750 in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania Married: 6 MAY 1772 in St. James Episcopal Church, Lancaster, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania Children 1. *Christian Shank b: 1778 in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania 2. *Henry Shank b: 3 OCT 1780 in Donegal Township, Lancaster County, PA 3. *Abraham Shank b: 18 SEP 1785 in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania; d. 1824 Antrim T. Franklin Co. The second post has: David Shank Birth: ABT 1790 in Donegal Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania Death: 7 JUL 1841 in Donegal Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania Burial: Shank Family Cemetery. West Donegal Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania Marriage 1 Elizabeth Eshelman b: ABT 1790 in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania Children 1. *Nancy Shank b: 11 JUN 1816 in Donegal Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania moved to Franklin Co --Richard

Gerry: No I don't, but I know it was thru the Crunkleton line (my 6th removed grandmother was a Crunkleton). Also Shanks is a fairly common old name, easy to pronounce and write, so I doubt if as an example census takers screwed it up.I am going to have to go back and read my own book which I wrote about the Crunkletons, they are a vast tribe and I can think of at least one German connection The Shingles - just stopped for a look, I see at least 5 German names in their line and I also see the Shank connection which was Mary Shank who married Samuel James Crunkleton in mid 1800's Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Parchman" <lib2uus@comcast.net> To: <pafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 7:58 AM Subject: [PAFRANKL] Shanks > Gordon, > > Do you know the wife's ancestry? Maybe he (or an ancestor) joined his > wife's church. > > Are you sure that the immigrant's name didn't get changed by a scribe? > > Gerry > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.14.3/2409 - Release Date: 10/02/09 06:46:00

Gordon, Do you know the wife's ancestry? Maybe he (or an ancestor) joined his wife's church. Are you sure that the immigrant's name didn't get changed by a scribe? Gerry

Folks: As you can see I questioned the surname SHANKS and had a look up done by the Pratt State Library in Baltimore. This answers one question for me, but also invites another one. If the Shanks of Franklin Co. were originally Ulsterscots and probably Presbyterians - how did they become Old Order River Brethren ?? Gordon Crooks ----- Original Message ----- From: "ssh" <ssh@prattlibrary.org> To: "Gordon Crooks@verizon.net" <gordoncrooks@verizon.net> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 9:30 AM Subject: Re: Look up please > Gordon Crooks@verizon.net wrote: >> Eva: Here is a good one. The name Shanks is found in Pa. and they are >> Old Order River Brethren(very similar to the Amish) which originated >> in Germany around 1723. I recently was in contacvt vwith a shanks who >> lives in the South, she is of Ulsterscot ancestry and baptist. I am >> also in contact with two living Shanks in Scotland. >> >> So my question to you is are there Shanks to be found in both U.K. and >> Germany an what is the origin of the name ? >> >> Gordon Crooks >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Scanned MGW1 > Mr. Crooks : > > The entry on SHANKS in the /Dictionary of American Family Names /(Oxford > Univ. Press, 2003) is : > " SHANKS. Scottish and northern Irish : nickname for someone with long > legs or some peculiarity of gait, from Old English /sceanca/ [meaning] ' > shin bone ', 'leg'. " > I could not find a German connection with SHANKS, but the surname SCHANK > is of German origin. Here is the entry on SCHANK, from the same source : > " SCHANK. German and Dutch : variant of SCHENK. " > " SCHENK. German and Dutch : from Middle High German, Middle Dutch > /schenke/, [meaning] ' cupbearer ', ' wine server' (from Old High German > /scenko/, from > /scenken/ [meaning] ' to pour out or serve), hence an occupational name > for a cupbearer or server of wine. As a German name it also denotes a > tavernkeeper. " > > --Answered by : Librarian, Social Science and History Department, Enoch > Pratt Free Library, 400 Cathedral Street, Baltimore, MD 21201. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.14.1/2407 - Release Date: 10/01/09 06:34:00

If anyone sees or hears from Jim while he is in Pennsylvania this week ask him if was in the Lutherville/Timonium area of baltimore County when he telephoned me the other day. If so is he going home via the same route? If this is the case I want him to come to my house which is only 5 miles from the area he was in. Otherwise I will await his telephone call from Florida when he finally get all the way home. Gordon Crooks

I have not visited Kennedy Memorial Presbyterian Church cemetery for some years, it was in pretty bad shape until the local people took over its care. So now its kept with grass & weeds mowed and some stones have been set up right, however the majority of the stones are mostly unreadable. Conocoheague Institute offered some years ago to take over control and care of this church and its cemetery, however the local people opted to do it themselves. Regarding the nearby Brethren Church & cemetery I believe its probably German baptist as they have a fairly large parking lot. Their cemetery is very well maintained. and is in active use. Gordon Crooks

I belong to several U.K. web sites and on one of them in Scotland there is mention of the SHANKS family who appear to be Presbyterians and have living ancestor still in the area. My question is were the Franklin County Shanks of Scotish or German origin? I know that they are Old Order River Brethren which is of German origin, so are these two separate family groups or related? Gordon Crooks

Your finding of 0.8 miles east of Welsh Run, the creek, not the town (the town was not there in the 1700s anyway) fits perfectly the position I have already told you. I believe this confirms the location of his land. Welsh Run was also north of his property, flowing eastward into the West Branch Conococheague Creek. A bit west of Welsh Run (town) the Run turns southward, making it west of Morrison land. There are two principal cemeteries in the immediate area, and perhaps untold number of tiny private cemeteries. The Welsh Run Presby (Robert Kennedy Memorial) Cemetery is in the present town of Welsh Run, as I previously noted. A mile or so west is the Bretheran Cemetery, along the same east-west road. The Conococheague Institute is located a mile or so south of the Bretheran Cemetery. Neither was a Seceder church, of course, as we have been noting in recent emails. However, as I previously noted, Andrew probably was not Seceder, and the Welsh Run Church was a few minutes by buggy north of his property. There is a c1775 listing of Welsh Run Church pew holders in some of the histories of the area, including my Fergus Moorhead. Most of the local families in this immediate area were on this listing of pew holders. I do not recall about Morrison. By the way, some of the adjacent earliest landowners (Warrantees) to Morrison property were Shelby, Smith, Mackey, Rankin, Flanagan, Davis, Andrews, Crawford, and others. The Davis' were the principal and the first landowners in the area, having about 1000 or so acres initially between several of them (principally John and Philip, but also Samuel). My Moorheads purchased the Rankin property in the late 1770s, sold it to the Buchanans about 1811 (two deeds of sale from the heirs). I second the findings of Rob Shinafelt in his email. The Institute has the best person for the job in Mary Hartman, who lives at their HQ. She was very generous in her help to me in the past. Do not ignore the Fendrick Library in Mercersburg, or the Historical Society in Chambersburg, nor the help you might find at the Cumberland County Historical Society or Courthouse, as this was Cumberland land about 1750 to 1784. By the way, Rob, is your surname Shinafelt the same as the John Shenefeld (various spellings) who owned numerous parcels of land on both sides of the West Branch, in this immediate area. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josette Maxwell" <josettemaxwell@bellsouth.net> To: <PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:27 PM Subject: [PAFRANKL] Andrew Morrison > Found citation which says his land was four fifths a mile > east of Welsh Run. As I recall, someone indicated they > had cemetery books. Would appreciate information on > any Morrisons in West Conocheaque Presby Church or any > cemeteries proximate to Welsh Run. Andrew and his ? Carson > wife should be buried there. Andrew Morrison will 1804 > (probable son of Andrew and ? Carson) as well as possibly > William Morrison because the will indicates inheritance > to the children of William Morrison. > > Also have found that there is an Andrew Morrison on the > 1751 tax list for Peters Township. > > > Thanks very much > > Josette Maxwell > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Josette, I don't have access to cemetery records, but have you been in touch with http://conococheague.org/ ? They have all of the cemetery listings, the Palmer Papers, a list of land holdings in the area, and Fendrick papers which has ancestral documents recorded. Both have many Morrison's listed, including Andrew (10 times), and William ( 7 times) . They may have a family history on Morrison's. We stop there annually and they continue to add to their holdings, but most of all, they are very helpful and go out of their way to find what you need. Happy Hunting. Rob Shinafelt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josette Maxwell" <josettemaxwell@bellsouth.net> To: <PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:27 PM Subject: [PAFRANKL] Andrew Morrison > Found citation which says his land was four fifths a mile > east of Welsh Run. As I recall, someone indicated they > had cemetery books. Would appreciate information on > any Morrisons in West Conocheaque Presby Church or any > cemeteries proximate to Welsh Run. Andrew and his ? Carson > wife should be buried there. Andrew Morrison will 1804 > (probable son of Andrew and ? Carson) as well as possibly > William Morrison because the will indicates inheritance > to the children of William Morrison. > > Also have found that there is an Andrew Morrison on the > 1751 tax list for Peters Township. > > > Thanks very much > > Josette Maxwell > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Found citation which says his land was four fifths a mile east of Welsh Run. As I recall, someone indicated they had cemetery books. Would appreciate information on any Morrisons in West Conocheaque Presby Church or any cemeteries proximate to Welsh Run. Andrew and his ? Carson wife should be buried there. Andrew Morrison will 1804 (probable son of Andrew and ? Carson) as well as possibly William Morrison because the will indicates inheritance to the children of William Morrison. Also have found that there is an Andrew Morrison on the 1751 tax list for Peters Township. Thanks very much Josette Maxwell

Hi Gordon, Also know as the Battle of Hastings. I believe that would be a descendant of Robert coming to Fanklin Co., not an ancestor - yes? LOL. Tink At 04:26 AM 9/28/2009, Gordon Crooks@verizon.net wrote: >Today September 28, 1066 William the Conquer invaded England to >claim the throne, he was accompanied by Robert Crok (Crooks) who >laid claim to lands in Paisley, Scotland. About 672 years later >(1738) one of Robert Crooks ancestors settled in Franklin Co., Pa. > > Gordon Crooks > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Today September 28, 1066 William the Conquer invaded England to claim the throne, he was accompanied by Robert Crok (Crooks) who laid claim to lands in Paisley, Scotland. About 672 years later (1738) one of Robert Crooks ancestors settled in Franklin Co., Pa. Gordon Crooks

Hi Everyone, I just want to thank those wonderful people who responded to my request for photos of a tombstone in Letterkenny. Thank you for being so kind. I now have several people helping me out with this. Again thank you Sandra Kakures

Hello Everyone, I took my father to Washington DC and Gettysburg for a vacation a couple of weeks ago. While I was there I tried to get over to Letterkenny to show my father the area that his family lived in from about 1790-1878- We only got as far as Chambersburg as we ran out time and I wasn't sure how much further it was, so we went back to Gettysburg where we were staying. His grandfather's sister is buried there in the Upper Strasburg Methodist Church Cemetery and I was hoping to find it and take a photo of my father next to it. I was hoping if there was anyone here that knows the area and where the cemetery is. I would like to find someone who wouldn't mind going over to the cemetery and take a picture of the headstone and the cemetery for me. I would be willing to pay for your time and gas. If there is anyone out there that can help me with this let me know, I would be so grateful. The inscription on the headstone reads: Catherine Henry b. Jan 31, 1862 d. Mar 4, 1863 1 yr 7mo 4d She is buried in the Upper Strasburg Methodist Cemetery Sandra Kakures