Gordon, Since northern Africa (Egypt, Carthage, the Phoenicians etc.) was settled before the Roman Empire (3000 BC for Egypt) and had an advanced culture, while Ireland was still a backwater, you must be referring to southern Africa, away from the Mediterranean and including all of sub-Sahara Africa. The people in the Mediterranean didn't venture very far down the western coast. But the eastern coast was explored by the Chinese about 500 BC, and later by the Arabs after 700 AD. What time period are you talking about? I can believe that the Irish may have stumbled on sub-Saharan Africa's west coast when they were more developed since they were more oriented to the Atlantic than the Mediterranean people. But further European exploration didn't occur much until the Portuguese rounded the Cape of Good Hope about 1450 AD (Henry the Navigator). By then, most of East Africa was already Muslim, with an active trade with the Arabs. Gerry

> >Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:44:15 -0500 > >From: "Gordon Crooks@verizon.net" <gordoncrooks@verizon.net> > >Subject: [PAFRANKL] Irish discovery of Africa > >Folks: I have serious proof that the Irish discovered Africa and will > >send > >it to anyone directly who wants the info. > Given that hominids (early humans) evolved in Africa, I am not sure how > some > later European humans could have discovered Africa. Africans were always > living there since the earliest hominids. Jill, I thought that too, so I searched Google "Proof that Irish Discovered Africa," and found the evidence... you really do need to see it. I'm thinking Lamarck and Darwin would find the evidence fascinating and worthy of a second look. It's only a 32 second presentation on you-tube but I think you'll be pleasingly surprised by the evidence. It can probably be viewed at different sites, but I found it here: http://www.grouchyoldcripple.com/archives/005400.html I'm assuming that this is what Gordon meant. <grin> Linda Trent linda_trent@att.net proud of her Scot-Irish heritage Franklin names: Eachus & Crunkleton (?)

Shelly, There are good places to look all over Franklin County. Start with the library and then various historical societies. Links below. There are others that I have not visited, but have heard good results. Good Hunting. Rob Shinafelt http://www.fclspa.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=49&Itemid=117 Library....ask for reference/genealogy http://conococheague.org/ Very helpful and well organized. http://www.fendricklibrary.com/ Very helpful and well organized http://pafch.tripod.com/ Great deal of material available. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelley" <keli1@aol.com> To: <pafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 9:16 AM Subject: [PAFRANKL] School/Education in Franlkin County, PA > > Good morning, does anyone have a list of the schools that were open in > Franklin County, when they started and locations, also were there any > schools just for Blacks/people of color? The time period I am looking at > is prior to 1860. Where do I look? Should I check the library or > historical society? Thanks for any input. > > > > "Know Your Roots, they are Long and Strong", Shelley > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jill F Lackey <jflanthropologist@sbcglobal.net> > To: pafrankl@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:11 am > Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] PAFRANKL Digest, Vol 5, Issue 24 > > > Given that hominids (early humans) evolved in Africa, I am not sure how > some > later European humans could have discovered Africa. Africans were always > living there since the earliest hominids. > > -----Original Message----- > From: pafrankl-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:pafrankl-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of > pafrankl-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 2:01 AM > To: pafrankl@rootsweb.com > Subject: PAFRANKL Digest, Vol 5, Issue 24 > > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Irish discovery of Africa (Gordon Crooks@verizon.net) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:44:15 -0500 > From: "Gordon Crooks@verizon.net" <gordoncrooks@verizon.net> > Subject: [PAFRANKL] Irish discovery of Africa > To: <PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <B68AFA87098C483D81782A5954983164@GCrooks> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Folks: I have serious proof that the Irish discovered Africa and will send > it to anyone directly who wants the info. > > Gordon Crooks > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the PAFRANKL list administrator, send an email to > PAFRANKL-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the PAFRANKL mailing list, send an email to > PAFRANKL@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of PAFRANKL Digest, Vol 5, Issue 24 > *************************************** > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good morning, does anyone have a list of the schools that were open in Franklin County, when they started and locations, also were there any schools just for Blacks/people of color? The time period I am looking at is prior to 1860. Where do I look? Should I check the library or historical society? Thanks for any input. "Know Your Roots, they are Long and Strong", Shelley -----Original Message----- From: Jill F Lackey <jflanthropologist@sbcglobal.net> To: pafrankl@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:11 am Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] PAFRANKL Digest, Vol 5, Issue 24 Given that hominids (early humans) evolved in Africa, I am not sure how some later European humans could have discovered Africa. Africans were always living there since the earliest hominids. -----Original Message----- From: pafrankl-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pafrankl-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of pafrankl-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 2:01 AM To: pafrankl@rootsweb.com Subject: PAFRANKL Digest, Vol 5, Issue 24 Today's Topics: 1. Irish discovery of Africa (Gordon Crooks@verizon.net) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:44:15 -0500 From: "Gordon Crooks@verizon.net" <gordoncrooks@verizon.net> Subject: [PAFRANKL] Irish discovery of Africa To: <PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <B68AFA87098C483D81782A5954983164@GCrooks> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Folks: I have serious proof that the Irish discovered Africa and will send it to anyone directly who wants the info. Gordon Crooks ------------------------------ To contact the PAFRANKL list administrator, send an email to PAFRANKL-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PAFRANKL mailing list, send an email to PAFRANKL@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of PAFRANKL Digest, Vol 5, Issue 24 *************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Given that hominids (early humans) evolved in Africa, I am not sure how some later European humans could have discovered Africa. Africans were always living there since the earliest hominids. -----Original Message----- From: pafrankl-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pafrankl-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of pafrankl-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 2:01 AM To: pafrankl@rootsweb.com Subject: PAFRANKL Digest, Vol 5, Issue 24 Today's Topics: 1. Irish discovery of Africa (Gordon Crooks@verizon.net) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:44:15 -0500 From: "Gordon Crooks@verizon.net" <gordoncrooks@verizon.net> Subject: [PAFRANKL] Irish discovery of Africa To: <PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <B68AFA87098C483D81782A5954983164@GCrooks> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Folks: I have serious proof that the Irish discovered Africa and will send it to anyone directly who wants the info. Gordon Crooks ------------------------------ To contact the PAFRANKL list administrator, send an email to PAFRANKL-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PAFRANKL mailing list, send an email to PAFRANKL@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of PAFRANKL Digest, Vol 5, Issue 24 ***************************************

Folks: I have serious proof that the Irish discovered Africa and will send it to anyone directly who wants the info. Gordon Crooks

Hi Folks: I want you all to get off of your butts and give us a hand. Allison-Antrim Museum and others are trying to establish more information on the black Anderson family who resided in Franklin Co. in the 1700-1800's. We already know a great deal about his children, however we know very little about the man himself. It is said that he might have been on a slave ship or engaged in that trade. It is assumed he was white and that he married one of the slave women and we have found most if not all of his children and grandchildren. We need to find more information on the man himself and his early years. Get busy !! Gordon Crooks

>From my "rough" notes during a search of the SIMPSON name. All Franklin County Deed books: Book 8, page 204 - Alexander Culbertson, dec'd of Guilford Twp, Jos. McCandless executor. Joseph McCandless was husband of Elizabeth Culbertson & they were living in Natchez Mississippi Territory. Exec. nominated Dr. John Simpson to sell property of Alexander Culbertson. 20 Jul 1808. Book 10, page 500 - Michael Simpson, dec'd, of Fairview Twp, York Co had land in Southhampton Twp, Franklin Co. Execs. Jacob Walaman? & Michael F. Simpson. William & Julia Culbertson, also of Fairview Twp, paid $13,500 & they sign release. 7 Sep 1815 Book 13, page 365 - Michael Simpson, dec'd of York Co, Michael F. Simpson & Jacob Haldeman of Fairview Twp, York Co execs. For $5,000 Michael & Jacob sell land in Southhampton Twp to William Culbertson. Then re-convey it back. 1 Aug 1820 Book 16, page 313 - William Culbertson says deed re-conveyed to correct error 5 Oct 1819? Julia Culbertson, executrix for William conveys land to Michael Simpson. 21 Jan 1834. >From newspaper, Franklin Repository: 11 May 1859 - died - M. Simpson Culbertson, s/o John & Catherine, on May 4. Dropsy of brain, age 5. 26 Nov 1862 - Rev. M. Simpson Culbertson, native of Chambersburg, died of cholera overseas. He was a graduate of West Point, went to theological seminary in Princeton NJ, tqaught math, and was called to Falling Spring Church in Chambersburg. Then was called as missionary to China. Sue Marcus

----- Original Message ----- Barbara: Yes I have just received confirmation of the Breckenridge family being mentioned in the book and very early on. To everyone else when you request info on the Culbertson's I NEED ALL the names, dates and anything else that you might have. The book is NOT indexed, so names aren't listed as such, so for every look up we need everything that you have in order to try and find the connection. Get busy folks because in 18 days (Spring) I will become a vegetable gardner and give up genealogy for a while and when I get all of that under control, then I will start my ghoul hunts in Franklin Co. again ! There are times when talking to the "departed" beats talking to the living !!! Gordon Crooks From: BarbaraA To: Gordon Crooks@verizon.net Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Culbertson's >>>He is going to send me all of the family information that he has and I am going to try and trace him back with the help of another Culbertson that I know.<<< Wonderful!!! If you come across a Culbertson marriage to a Brackenridge/Breckenridge about 1750, please let me know. Thanks Barbara ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2718 - Release Date: 03/02/10 07:34:00

Jeanette & others yes this is going to be some fun and also some work. Several people have contacted me who are going to supply me with information on the Culbertson's and I have also been contacted by a couple of Culbertson relatives. So I hope to get organized as soon as possible and get started on this. One related Culbertson has a copy of Lewis R. Culbertson's 1867 book on the Culbertsons written in Zanesville, Ohio along with a later supplement. issued, so we will be looking into that to try and make family connections. There were quite a few of them originally and with the exception of the Rev. John Culbertson appear to be related. Gordon Crooks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Robison" <ejrob1@sssnet.com> To: "Gordon Crooks@verizon.net" <gordoncrooks@verizon.net> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Culbertson's > Wow, that is so exciting. How kind of you to help this gentleman. I bet > he > will appreciate it. Jeanette in Ohio. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gordon Crooks@verizon.net" <gordoncrooks@verizon.net> > To: <PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 2:38 PM > Subject: [PAFRANKL] Culbertson's > > >> Hi Folks: Recently I wasa looking in the little regional telephone book >> for a neighbors telephone number and I spoted the name Culbertson. Well >> many of us know the story and history of Capt. Alexander Culbertson in >> the French & Indian Wars and the later members of the family who were in >> the American Revolution. Well I noted there were five Culbertson families >> living within 10 miles of where I live in Maryland, so I started calling >> them on the phone. First time around no Answers, recorders etc, the >> second >> time I tried I hit the jackpot and spoke with a George Culbertson, he is >> 83 years old and all of the local Culbertson's are related to him. His >> father was Chambersburg area born and he thinks he is related to the rest >> of the Culbertson's and back to Capt. Culbertson. He did not know of >> Rocky >> Sprigs Cemetery, so I took pictures over to his house and showed him the >> graves of the Culbertson's. He is going to send me all of the family >> information that he has and I am going to t! >> ry and trace him back with the help of another Culbertson that I know. >> >> Gordon >> Crooks >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2718 - Release Date: 03/02/10 07:34:00

Hi Folks: Recently I wasa looking in the little regional telephone book for a neighbors telephone number and I spoted the name Culbertson. Well many of us know the story and history of Capt. Alexander Culbertson in the French & Indian Wars and the later members of the family who were in the American Revolution. Well I noted there were five Culbertson families living within 10 miles of where I live in Maryland, so I started calling them on the phone. First time around no Answers, recorders etc, the second time I tried I hit the jackpot and spoke with a George Culbertson, he is 83 years old and all of the local Culbertson's are related to him. His father was Chambersburg area born and he thinks he is related to the rest of the Culbertson's and back to Capt. Culbertson. He did not know of Rocky Sprigs Cemetery, so I took pictures over to his house and showed him the graves of the Culbertson's. He is going to send me all of the family information that he has and I am going to try and trace him back with the help of another Culbertson that I know. Gordon Crooks

I need help understanding the warrant registers: I understand who the Name of the Warrantee is, quantity means how many acres, date of warrant, what does date of return mean and acres returned? Thanks "Know Your Roots, they are Long and Strong", Shelley

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary" <mhartman@innernet.net> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 8:38 AM Subject: Yankee soldiers rest in peace in Rebel soil > Story: >> Yankee soldiers rest in peace in Rebel soil >> Historical society in North Carolina seeks local relatives of three Union >> soldiers buried in the South. >> >> There is evidence to suggest the remains of three Union soldiers from >> Cumberland County may be buried on private property outside Rockingham, >> N.C. >> >> The Sentinel was contacted earlier this month by Irving Long, a member of >> the Richmond County Historical Society in Rockingham, which is about 70 >> miles east of Charlotte. >> >> For more of this story, click on or type the URL below: >> >> http://www.cumberlink.com/articles/2010/02/27/news/local/doc4b89e4bfbfe6d714035932.txt > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2714 - Release Date: 02/28/10 07:34:00

Hi folks: The URL below will be of interest to those whose settler ancestors came from Scotland and Northern Ireland during the Plantation period 1600's http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/plantation/companies/ico2.shtml Gordon Crooks

Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 10:34 AM Subject: SCOTTISH WEB SITE This web site was sent to me by a friend, its FREE and a little difficult to wade thru, but it beat paying Scotlandspeople., and will help those trying to trace their ancestors back to Scotland. Go to: www.freecen.org.uk Gordon

Donna: You are supplying snowshoes aren't you ? In myu case because of the distance to travel it would be nice for you to supply me with a horse drawn sled and all the conforts of home with it !! Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Heller Zinn" <djzinn@pa.net> To: <PAFRANKL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:18 AM Subject: [PAFRANKL] The Perry Historians - Beginner's Genealogical Workshop > Hello Fellow Listers: > > Mark your calendars now! > > The Perry Historians, a genealogical library located between New > Bloomfield > and Newport, Perry County, PA. on Rte.34 will be hosting their Annual > Beginner's Genealogical Workshop at the Harry Lenig Library on Saturday, > March 6, 2010 from 9:00 a.m. until 5:00 p.m.. > > This is a FREE service and all are welcome to attend. > > Please note that Lunch will be on your own. You can either pack your > lunch > and eat in our kitchen area, or you can visit one of the eating > establishments nearby. > > Make sure to bring along your pencils and a tablet for note taking... and > your own genealogical research, as there may be time at the end of the day > for you to use our library to do research on your own. > > We would appreciate knowing how many are planning on attending, so we can > have the appropriate number of handouts available - if we use handouts. > You > can r.s.v.p. to Donna Heller Zinn at Donna@ThePerryHistorians.org. > > Note: The physical address of The Perry Historians / Harry Lenig Library > is: > 763 Dix Hill Rd., New Bloomfield, PA 17068 > > Check out our website: > www.ThePerryHistorians.org > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2681 - Release Date: 02/11/10 07:35:00

Hello Fellow Listers: Mark your calendars now! The Perry Historians, a genealogical library located between New Bloomfield and Newport, Perry County, PA. on Rte.34 will be hosting their Annual Beginner's Genealogical Workshop at the Harry Lenig Library on Saturday, March 6, 2010 from 9:00 a.m. until 5:00 p.m.. This is a FREE service and all are welcome to attend. Please note that Lunch will be on your own. You can either pack your lunch and eat in our kitchen area, or you can visit one of the eating establishments nearby. Make sure to bring along your pencils and a tablet for note taking... and your own genealogical research, as there may be time at the end of the day for you to use our library to do research on your own. We would appreciate knowing how many are planning on attending, so we can have the appropriate number of handouts available - if we use handouts. You can r.s.v.p. to Donna Heller Zinn at Donna@ThePerryHistorians.org. Note: The physical address of The Perry Historians / Harry Lenig Library is: 763 Dix Hill Rd., New Bloomfield, PA 17068 Check out our website: www.ThePerryHistorians.org

The Perry Historians are hosting their 2nd Annual "On the Trail of Perry County History" on Saturday, March 27, 2010. This time we'll be following the route of the Newport and Shermans Valley Railroad, a narrow gage line that ran through the heart of Perry County. We'll be navigating its path from Newport to its end near Big Spring State Park (aka The Hemlocks) in Toboyne Township. We'll be gathering at the Newport Plaza (Dollar General) Parking Lot by no later than 7:45 a.m.. Bus pulls out at 8:00 a.m. SHARP! All persons must be aboard the bus - NO cars! Lunch will be provided by the women of the Blain zion Lutheran Church and will consist of ham loaf, scalloped potatoes, green beans, pinapple-breadpudding, and beverages... and plenty of delicious homemade pies for desert. The all-inclusive cost is $30 per person. Deadline for reservations and payment is February 28th. Seating is limited and will be filled on a first-come first-served basis. Wear comfortable shoes as there may be some walking. For a reservation form or for questions concerning the trip, please address to Donna Heller Zinn at Donna@ThePerryHistorians.org.

Does the S A R book have an entry for Conrad Mann? Might be spelled Monn or Man.Margie

No entries found for timeframe you need, but the names you mention do appear in these two families. Maybe they are descendants of your Godfrey and Susan. 1840 census, Fredrick, Franklin Co., PA: Godfrey Bricker: 1 male under 5; 1 male 20-30; 1 female under 5; 1 female 30 - 40. 1850 census, St. Thomas, Franklin Co., PA: George Bricker 28, laborer; Susan 27, Daniel 9, Claricy 7, John 5, William 3. All born in PA Tink > ----- Original Message ----- > From: BMunch528@aol.com > To: gordoncrooks@verizon.net > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:08 PM > Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Fw: History > > > Gordon, > > I am looking for a Godfrey Bricker and wife Susan Mast. He is > said to be from Ft Loudon area. They had at least 3 boy: George, > Daniel and John who were born around 1792-1800. These boys married > and raised their families in Franklin Co., Pa. > > I can find no documents that verify the existence of Godfrey > Bricker or Susan Mast, so was exploring the fact that he may have > been a Hessian soldier who deserted and stayed in Pa. > > Barbara > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2668 - Release Date: > 02/04/10 19:35:00 > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message