Hi Folks: My people came from Ahoghill Glagorm estate in Antrim, N. Ireland and among the other families who also came to Franklin County from the same area are Moorehead, Beatty, McClure, McCrea, Ambrose, Dunwoodie to name a few.The URL's listed below will take you to the history, myths and witchcraft which prevailed there in the 1600's. It is a good example of the differences between the ruling Catholics and the folk who were mainly Presbyterians. http://www.glagormcastle.com/index.php?id=doctorcolville http://www.glagormcastle.com/index.php?id=ghostofdoctorcolv. Gordon Crooks

I am looking for the parents of Rachel Chambers. She was born in 1756 in Chambersburg, married Peter Troxell (1784) in Frederick, and died 1850 in Augusta county, VA. Thanks Joe...

Gordon, Do you mean by email or is it a "real" book? Betsy Hare Kemp Researching: Allison, Brooks, Crider, Hare,Heilman, Koontz, Lyon(s), McElroy, McRoberts, McLaughlin, McGeary,McKnight, Nelson, Smith, Swank.

Hi Folks I have a condensed version of the Logans and Ulsterscots in N. Ireland from the 1600's forward. I will send it directly to anyone who is interested. Gordon Crooks

Hi Folks: I have a copy of a diary written by a immigrant in the late 1800's from Ireland which is interesting reading. I will forward it to anyone who wants to read it. Gordon Crooks

I am looking for a picture of Thomas Edison with 2 girls on his lap. The girls are my aunts. It was in paper in Hagerstown MD late 1920's. Any one have a copy or able to look it up? Also I am looking for decendants of Mary and John Kidwiler and Margaret Rohrer to contact about family history. Jimmie jimbo@ntelos.net

The Perry Historians will be hosting another of its Special Presentations - this time on Civil War Era Firearms. Did you know that disease was the leading cause of death in the Civil War? Did you know that the second leading cause of death was the famed .58 caliber "minie" ball? What were some of the nicknames soldiers gave to the imported weapons, and what was the favorite firearm of the foot soldier? These questions and more will be answered in Steve Jury's presentation entitled "Firearms of the Civil War." So come to The Perry Historians / Harry Lenig Library near New Bloomfield, Perry Co., PA. on Sunday, May 23, 2010 at 2:00 p.m., and hear Steve discuss the never ending problem of how to supply firearms for millions of soldiers, and how technology improved in firearms during the four years of the war. >From smooth bore to rifled muskets, to breech loading rim fires, Steve has it all. Many of the firearms Steve talks about will be on display for guests to view along with a demonstration on loading procedures for muzzleloaders, and a question and answer period. If the Civil War or firearms in general are of interest to you, we think you will enjoy this presentation. Light refreshments will be served following the presentation. This is FREE to all and all are welcome to attend! For more info about The Perry Historians / Harry Lenig Library visit our website: www.ThePerryHistorians.org Or contact Donna Heller Zinn at Donna@ThePerryHistorians.org

The Tercentennial Reunion of the Descendents of William Elder of Maryland will be held July 21-25th 2011 at Mt. St. Mary’s University, Emmitsburg, MD. Mt. St. Mary’s University is America's second oldest Catholic University, located on 1,400 acres just an hour outside of Baltimore and Washington and the surrounding Frederick County area. We are planning loads of summer fun so please bring the KIDS! For more information on the reunion please send your name and email address to Tim Gallagher spqr753@msn.com or write to The William Elder of Maryland Descendents Association, Inc. P.O. Box 202 Emmitsburg, Maryland 21727-0202 http://www.williamelderofmaryland.com/index.html

Hello, I too would hope to be able to get any handout or notes from this session, since I too will be in central Pennsylvania second week in June. Thank you. Sincerely, Kathy T. T. Crystal River, Florida Researching Gruber/Gruver's in Franklin, Juniata, and Perry County -------------------------------------------------- From: "BonnieM" <blmalmat@bellsouth.net> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 2:59 AM To: "'Donna Heller Zinn'" <djzinn@pa.net>; <PAFRANKL@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Advanced Genealogical Workshop at The PerryHistorians > > Was there a handout or notes from this for those of us out-of-town? I'll > be > hitting the courthouse in July so this is of interest to me. > > Thanks! > > Bonz > > -----Original Message----- > From: pafrankl-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pafrankl-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Donna Heller Zinn > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:55 PM > To: PAFRANKL@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PAFRANKL] Advanced Genealogical Workshop at The Perry Historians > > Hello Folks: > > Just letting you know that The Perry Historians, a genealogical library > located on Rt.34 just outside of New Bloomfield, Perry Co., PA. will be > hosting their annual Advanced Genealogical Workshop at The Harry Lenig > Library on Saturday, April 10, 2010 beginning at 9:00 a.m. and running > until > 5:00 p.m.. > > This workshop is FREE and open to the public. > > Harry Focht will be discussing and explaining different resources that are > available at the Court Houses - those that may not be as well known to the > genealogists as are the Wills and Estate Records... along with other > documents and areas of search that may help you get through your "brick > walls". > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Was there a handout or notes from this for those of us out-of-town? I'll be hitting the courthouse in July so this is of interest to me. Thanks! Bonz -----Original Message----- From: pafrankl-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pafrankl-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Donna Heller Zinn Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:55 PM To: PAFRANKL@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAFRANKL] Advanced Genealogical Workshop at The Perry Historians Hello Folks: Just letting you know that The Perry Historians, a genealogical library located on Rt.34 just outside of New Bloomfield, Perry Co., PA. will be hosting their annual Advanced Genealogical Workshop at The Harry Lenig Library on Saturday, April 10, 2010 beginning at 9:00 a.m. and running until 5:00 p.m.. This workshop is FREE and open to the public. Harry Focht will be discussing and explaining different resources that are available at the Court Houses - those that may not be as well known to the genealogists as are the Wills and Estate Records... along with other documents and areas of search that may help you get through your "brick walls".

In JULY of 1775, Col Thomas Dunbar wrote to Penna Gov Robert Hunter Morris, that he would retreat from Ft Cumberland with the remnants of Braddock's troops & take up WINTER quarters in Philadelphia - this action opened the land west of the Susquehanna for the massacres that occurred in what are now Franklin & Fulton counties. Michael Today's Topics: 1. Braddock's defeat (Gordon Crooks@verizon.net) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 06:05:34 -0400 From: "Gordon Crooks@verizon.net" <gordoncrooks@verizon.net> Subject: [PAFRANKL] Braddock's defeat To: <PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BEC2B57A30FC4A0FA12A60F28C60E576@GCrooks> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On April 29, 1755 British general Edward Braddock left Frederick, Md. and crossed over into Pennsylvania and on to Fort Pitt and his defeat and death, thus began the French & Indian Wars. Gordon ------------------------------ To contact the PAFRANKL list administrator, send an email to PAFRANKL-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PAFRANKL mailing list, send an email to PAFRANKL@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of PAFRANKL Digest, Vol 5, Issue 46 ***************************************

Philip H. Rotz m(1) Elizabeth Myers, (2) Eliza Besore/Bashore, and (3) Sarah Gelwicks. Have more on this family if anyone is interested. -----Original Message----- From: pafrankl-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pafrankl-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rlcogar Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:27 PM To: PAFRANKL@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAFRANKL] Some Descendants of PHILIP H. ROTZ of Franklin Co PA NOTE: I am not related to this line. Some Descendants of PHILIP H. ROTZ of Franklin Co PA 1 PHILIP H. ROTZ was born about 1816 in PA. PHILIP married ________ ________. PHILIP next married ELIZABETH ________. ELIZABETH was born about 1820 in PA. PHILIP next married SARAH ________. SARAH was born about 1819 in PA. Ancestry.com 1850 United States Federal Census Pennsylvania, Franklin County, Lurgan Township DW52 FAM52 September 9 ROTTS Philip 34 PA Farmer ROTTS Elisabeth 33 PA ROTTS David 12 PA ROTTS John 11 PA Ancestry.com 1860 United States Federal Census Pennsylvania, Franklin County, Lurgan Township PO Orrstown DW__ FAM355 June 18 ROTZ P. H. 42 PA Farmer 2000 550 ROTZ Eliza 40 PA ROTZ David 22 PA Farm Laborer ROTZ John 21 PA Farm Laborer ROTZ B. F. 7 PA ROTZ Mary C. 4 PA ROTZ C. A. 1 PA 1870 United States Federal Census Pennsylvania, Franklin County, Lurgan Township PO Orrstown DW16 FAM16 July 5 ROTZ Philip 40 PA Farmer 5000 1000 [age about 52] ROTZ Sarah 40 PA Keeping House [age about 51] ROTZ Benjamin 17 PA Farm Laborer ROTZ Mary 12 PA At Home ROTZ Curtis 10 PA At Home Ancestry.com 1880 United States Federal Census Pennsylvania, Franklin County, Lurgan Township DW90 FAM97 June 1 ROTZ Philip H. 64 Head PA Farmer ROTZ Sarah 61 Wife PA Keeping House ROTZ Curtis 21 Son PA Works On Farm .... 2 DAVID ROTZ was born about 1838 in PA. .... 2 JOHN ROTZ was born about 1839 in PA. .... 2 BENJAMIN F. ROTZ was born about 1853 in PA. BENJAMIN married MARY A. ________. MARY was born about 1853 in PA. Ancestry.com 1880 United States Federal Census Pennsylvania, Franklin County, Lurgan Township DW__ FAM__ June 1 ROTZ Benjamin 26 Head PA PA PA Farmer ROTZ Mary 27 Wife PA PA PA Keeping House ROTZ Albertus 11 Son (F was x'd out) PA PA PA 1890 --- census not available Ancestry.com 1900 United States Federal Census Pennsylvania, Franklin County, Lurgan Township DW182 FAM182 June 20 ROTZ B. F. 47 Head M-26 May 1853 PA PA PA ROTZ Mary A. 49 Wife M-26 Aug 1851 PA PA PA 3/2 ROTZ Earnest F. 14 Son Jan 1886 PA PA PA BREWBAKE Annie M. 13 Niece Mar 1887 PA PA PA ........ 3 BERTIE A. ROTZ was born about 1876 in PA. BERTIE married JESSE HOWLAND HOLTRY, about 1895 in PA. JESSE was born about 1873 in PA. Ancestry.com 1910 United States Federal Census Pennsylvania, Franklin County, Southampton Township DW85 FAM91 April 21 ROTZ Mary A. 58 Head (Wd) PA PA PA ROTZ Irvin 24 Son PA PA PA Laborer Ancestry.com 1920 United States Federal Census Pennsylvania, Franklin County, Southampton Township, Orrstown Dist DW75 FAM77 January 20 HOLTRY Jesse 46 Head PA PA PA Laborer, Farm HOLTRY Bertie A. 42 Wife PA PA PA H...... Mary 21 Dau (M) PA PA PA HOLTRY Ellen 19 Dau PA PA PA HOLTRY Lawrence 16 Son PA PA PA HOLTRY Irvin 14 Son PA PA PA HOLTRY Buela 12 Dau PA PA PA HOLTRY Loy 10 Son PA PA PA HOLTRY Margaret 8 Dau PA PA PA HOLTRY Pearl 6 Dau PA PA PA ROTZ Mary 67 MotherL (Wd) PA PA PA .... 2 MARY C. ROTZ was born about 1856 in PA. .... 2 CURTIS A. ROTZ was born about 1859 in PA. ===== ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

NOTE: I am not related to this line. Some Descendants of PHILIP H. ROTZ of Franklin Co PA 1 PHILIP H. ROTZ was born about 1816 in PA. PHILIP married ________ ________. PHILIP next married ELIZABETH ________. ELIZABETH was born about 1820 in PA. PHILIP next married SARAH ________. SARAH was born about 1819 in PA. Ancestry.com 1850 United States Federal Census Pennsylvania, Franklin County, Lurgan Township DW52 FAM52 September 9 ROTTS Philip 34 PA Farmer ROTTS Elisabeth 33 PA ROTTS David 12 PA ROTTS John 11 PA Ancestry.com 1860 United States Federal Census Pennsylvania, Franklin County, Lurgan Township PO Orrstown DW__ FAM355 June 18 ROTZ P. H. 42 PA Farmer 2000 550 ROTZ Eliza 40 PA ROTZ David 22 PA Farm Laborer ROTZ John 21 PA Farm Laborer ROTZ B. F. 7 PA ROTZ Mary C. 4 PA ROTZ C. A. 1 PA 1870 United States Federal Census Pennsylvania, Franklin County, Lurgan Township PO Orrstown DW16 FAM16 July 5 ROTZ Philip 40 PA Farmer 5000 1000 [age about 52] ROTZ Sarah 40 PA Keeping House [age about 51] ROTZ Benjamin 17 PA Farm Laborer ROTZ Mary 12 PA At Home ROTZ Curtis 10 PA At Home Ancestry.com 1880 United States Federal Census Pennsylvania, Franklin County, Lurgan Township DW90 FAM97 June 1 ROTZ Philip H. 64 Head PA Farmer ROTZ Sarah 61 Wife PA Keeping House ROTZ Curtis 21 Son PA Works On Farm .... 2 DAVID ROTZ was born about 1838 in PA. .... 2 JOHN ROTZ was born about 1839 in PA. .... 2 BENJAMIN F. ROTZ was born about 1853 in PA. BENJAMIN married MARY A. ________. MARY was born about 1853 in PA. Ancestry.com 1880 United States Federal Census Pennsylvania, Franklin County, Lurgan Township DW__ FAM__ June 1 ROTZ Benjamin 26 Head PA PA PA Farmer ROTZ Mary 27 Wife PA PA PA Keeping House ROTZ Albertus 11 Son (F was x'd out) PA PA PA 1890 --- census not available Ancestry.com 1900 United States Federal Census Pennsylvania, Franklin County, Lurgan Township DW182 FAM182 June 20 ROTZ B. F. 47 Head M-26 May 1853 PA PA PA ROTZ Mary A. 49 Wife M-26 Aug 1851 PA PA PA 3/2 ROTZ Earnest F. 14 Son Jan 1886 PA PA PA BREWBAKE Annie M. 13 Niece Mar 1887 PA PA PA ........ 3 BERTIE A. ROTZ was born about 1876 in PA. BERTIE married JESSE HOWLAND HOLTRY, about 1895 in PA. JESSE was born about 1873 in PA. Ancestry.com 1910 United States Federal Census Pennsylvania, Franklin County, Southampton Township DW85 FAM91 April 21 ROTZ Mary A. 58 Head (Wd) PA PA PA ROTZ Irvin 24 Son PA PA PA Laborer Ancestry.com 1920 United States Federal Census Pennsylvania, Franklin County, Southampton Township, Orrstown Dist DW75 FAM77 January 20 HOLTRY Jesse 46 Head PA PA PA Laborer, Farm HOLTRY Bertie A. 42 Wife PA PA PA H...... Mary 21 Dau (M) PA PA PA HOLTRY Ellen 19 Dau PA PA PA HOLTRY Lawrence 16 Son PA PA PA HOLTRY Irvin 14 Son PA PA PA HOLTRY Buela 12 Dau PA PA PA HOLTRY Loy 10 Son PA PA PA HOLTRY Margaret 8 Dau PA PA PA HOLTRY Pearl 6 Dau PA PA PA ROTZ Mary 67 MotherL (Wd) PA PA PA .... 2 MARY C. ROTZ was born about 1856 in PA. .... 2 CURTIS A. ROTZ was born about 1859 in PA. =====

On April 29, 1755 British general Edward Braddock left Frederick, Md. and crossed over into Pennsylvania and on to Fort Pitt and his defeat and death, thus began the French & Indian Wars. Gordon

Hi Tink, Yes we have everything pretty well documented from 1850 on. It's the time period from 1827 to 1850 we're lost on. Yes that is our family tree that you saw. We have been to Cassville and seen the grave stone with those dates and seen the census from 1850 forward. Unfortunately, as I'm sure you know, 1850 is the first year that lists everyone in the household so it has not been possible to track in which household he resided before that time. As far as your question as to why we posted in Franklin County, the "Historical & Biographical Annals of Columbia & Montour Counties" says " Elisha B Hyssong was a native of Franklin County Pa and was there bound out in boyhood to learn the potter's trade serving four as an apprentice Later he went to Cassville Huntingdon Co Pa where he first worked as a journeyman and there he married Rachel E Green a native of Huntingdon County. When he built a pottery of his own he had to clear the location and that plant was carried on by the Hyssong family for sixty five years Elisha B Hyssong continuing to operate it until his death in 1873 after which his son Bruce took it running the business until the spring of 1912." Of course they did not get his date of death right so it's possible the other may be misinformation as well, but it's all we've got. John > Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 01:01:42 -0700 > To: jhyssong@hotmail.com; pafrankl@rootsweb.com > From: tmiller@pirs.org > Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Orphans > > > Hi John, > > I assume you have read all the census records for Elisha Benjamin > Hissong/Hyssong, wife Rachel and their children. I see that they > resided in Cassville, Huntindon Co., PA., from 1850 until his death > in 1901. So I'm curious what led you to post this query on the > Franklin Co. list. Do you have other information confirming his > presence in Franklin Co.? > > I see on a family tree posted on Ancestry that he was born 9 Oct 1827 > and died 28 June 1901. It was posted by "J.Hyssong", without citing > any sources. Is that you? If not, you may want to contact that person. > > I see Elizabeth Hissong, age 52, widow, in Franklin Co. on 1850 > census with some adult sons born in the years adjacent to when Elisha > was born. Could be his mother and brothers. > > Regarding apprenticeship, I don't know if there were regulations > about minimum age. I see on 1880 census that Elisha lists two of his > sons as apprentice potters, the youngest being 15. > > Good luck! > Tink > > > At 05:30 AM 4/21/10, John Hyssong wrote: > > >Hello, > > > > > > > >I am looking for information about Elisha (EB) Hissong/Hyssong > >(1827-1901). Marriage and death records list no parents so I'm > >wondering if he could have been an orphan. Does anyone know how to > >find any infomation about orphans before 1850? Also wondereing at > >what age a young man would have been sent to an apprentice to learn > >a trade (potter). > > > > > > > >Thanks > > > >John > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts > >with Hotmail. > >http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1

Hello, where are the Orphan records located in Franklin County? Thanks "Know Your Roots, they are Long and Strong", Shelley -----Original Message----- From: Tink Miller <tmiller@pirs.org> To: John Hyssong <jhyssong@hotmail.com>; pafrankl@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, Apr 22, 2010 4:01 am Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Orphans Hi John, I assume you have read all the census records for Elisha Benjamin Hissong/Hyssong, wife Rachel and their children. I see that they resided in Cassville, Huntindon Co., PA., from 1850 until his death in 1901. So I'm curious what led you to post this query on the Franklin Co. list. Do you have other information confirming his presence in Franklin Co.? I see on a family tree posted on Ancestry that he was born 9 Oct 1827 and died 28 June 1901. It was posted by "J.Hyssong", without citing any sources. Is that you? If not, you may want to contact that person. I see Elizabeth Hissong, age 52, widow, in Franklin Co. on 1850 census with some adult sons born in the years adjacent to when Elisha was born. Could be his mother and brothers. Regarding apprenticeship, I don't know if there were regulations about minimum age. I see on 1880 census that Elisha lists two of his sons as apprentice potters, the youngest being 15. Good luck! Tink At 05:30 AM 4/21/10, John Hyssong wrote: >Hello, > > > >I am looking for information about Elisha (EB) Hissong/Hyssong >(1827-1901). Marriage and death records list no parents so I'm >wondering if he could have been an orphan. Does anyone know how to >find any infomation about orphans before 1850? Also wondereing at >what age a young man would have been sent to an apprentice to learn >a trade (potter). > > > >Thanks > >John > >_________________________________________________________________ >The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts >with Hotmail. >http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Folks I am happy to say and they should be given credit for it. There is a local committee who has undertaken preservation of Kennedy Memorial Church & cemetery in Welshes Run.. I visited this cemetery about 5 years or so ago and it was in deplorable shape. Today all the trees, vines, bushes etc are gone and there is only well maintained grass. Stones have been repaired are re-set. The only regret that I have is that "gook" used to repair stones, any lettering that was left is wiped out by that stuff They should be given a pat on the back for a job well done ! Gordon Crooks

After two years of looking I finally found the old Indian Burial Grounds and the slave cemetery. They were not where I was told they were and they are on Welshes Run Rd, not Montgomery Church Road.. There is not much to see except the un-natural mounds and the telltale groundhog holes in them. Gordon Crooks

Wow, Gordon! You hit another home run with all this information on the more northerly Maryland hundreds. Since my ancestor is nowhere to be found in PA ship's lists, the tradition that he came to PA via Baltimore (or, of all things, New Orleans) may be true. This is very helpful, as usual. Anita Camplese >

Today anyone seeing a strange man walking in the fog and rain in cemeteries, don't be too alarmed, its me ! I will be in Greencastle to deliver some papers to the Museum and then I am going to try again to find that old Indian & Slave burial ground. Gordon Crooks