The link is great it's the complied information from all the farm schedules that were taken during the census that year.  This is still done today in many states (Pennsylvania being one).  There is line on the regular census form (1900 and after) that asks for the number of farm schedule.  I'd like to find the individual schedule if it's avaliable for those of my ancestors indicate they had one.  Apparently from what I've been able to find out it gives a better glimps into there daily farm life.  Majority of those that were farming during this time were in Franklin County. Thanx! Amy

> >>>Could someone tell me where I might find the Agricultural Census for 1900?<< Is this what you are looking for? http://www.agcensus.usda.gov/Publications/Historical_Publications/index.asp Barbara

Darlene, Pennsylvania did not have birth or marriage records during this time period. Church records might be an option though. The Cumberland County Historical Society's Hamilton Library has church records indexed on a database which you can use in the library. Other than that, Pennsylvania research depends on finding relationships mainly through probate records and deeds which are found in the county courthouses. That's not an easy look up however, and you may not find anything. Franklin County was formed from Cumberland county, and Lebanon was formed from Dauphin, so they may seem inconsistent and yet not really be. Search in the records for the county that it would have been at the time they lived there. I don't know the date of formation for Lebanon, but Franklin was formed from Cumberland about 1785 long before the dates you're talking about. Patti On Jan 16, 2011, at 2:09 PM, BDGriff430@aol.com wrote: > My ancestors, gggrandparents, John and Maria (Farner) Bowers arrived in > Oregon in 1853 on the "Lost Wagon Train". When completing their Oregon > emigration entry data John Bowers said he was born in Dauphin, PA and Maria > Bowers said she was born in Franklin or Cumberland, PA. John later was quoted > in a book entitled Illustrated History of Lane County, Oregon published in > 1884 that he was born in Lebanon Co., PA. > > My great grandfather, Thomas Bowers, told his family he was born in 1848 in > Lebanon Co., PA. > He and his five other siblings were not listed on the Oregon Trail data > (not unusual as there were 1,000 emigrants on that wagon train). > > My great uncle Jeremiah Bowers told family he himself was born in > Cumberland Co., PA. in 1843. > > We plan to be in PA in June for a few days. > Question: Where would be the best place to look for records of 1840-1848 > in these counties to confirm marriage/births? > > Thank you. > Darlene Griffith > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ag schedules only went through 1880. Patti On Jan 17, 2011, at 8:53 AM, Amy Welker wrote: > Could someone tell me where I might find the Agricultural Census for 1900? > > Thanx! Amy > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Darlene: Regarding your trip to Franklin County and other near by areas, I would suggest this. Since the period of time is the mid-1800's find records of them shouldn't be all that hard. Chambersburg is where most of Franklin Co. records can be found and there are 3 good soyrces there Franklin Co. Hist. Soc., Coyle Library, and the court house all within 3 blocks of one another. For Cumberland County try Carlisle which is straight up route R-81 about 30 miles, that would be the county seart and their hist. soc. is located there.. Gordon Crooks

Could someone tell me where I might find the Agricultural Census for 1900? Thanx! Amy

My ancestors, gggrandparents, John and Maria (Farner) Bowers arrived in Oregon in 1853 on the "Lost Wagon Train". When completing their Oregon emigration entry data John Bowers said he was born in Dauphin, PA and Maria Bowers said she was born in Franklin or Cumberland, PA. John later was quoted in a book entitled Illustrated History of Lane County, Oregon published in 1884 that he was born in Lebanon Co., PA. My great grandfather, Thomas Bowers, told his family he was born in 1848 in Lebanon Co., PA. He and his five other siblings were not listed on the Oregon Trail data (not unusual as there were 1,000 emigrants on that wagon train). My great uncle Jeremiah Bowers told family he himself was born in Cumberland Co., PA. in 1843. We plan to be in PA in June for a few days. Question: Where would be the best place to look for records of 1840-1848 in these counties to confirm marriage/births? Thank you. Darlene Griffith

One of my ancestors, last name REDDY, supposedly went off to fight in the War of 1812 and was never heard from again. His daughter, Elizabeth, married Isaiah McCURDY in 1820 in Franklin Co. They lived in Peters Twp. Sue Marcus

The main result of the war for genealogists is that the British burned all early census records for Virginia, Tennessee, and Kentucky, and, I think, a few other states. I have no way of finding records for many of my ancestors in Tennessee before 1820. Gerry

Aaaa Barb you know I can let this one go. While I was not at Fort McHenry in 1812 (I am not quite that old), I do have a slight afinity for it haveing visited it several times over the years and a friend actually works there. Also at least one of my relatives fought there during the battle. In regarding to the burning of Washington, D.C., it would be a good idea if you could arrange another burning - its long over due. I and all the learned people of Franklin County realize that you live in the wilds of British Columbia and that you are simply jealous because you remained a Britsh Colony until even the Brits got tired of you and gave you to Canada. Your Maryland pal Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barb Shave" <bjshave@shaw.ca> To: "Gordon Crooks" <gordoncrooks@verizon.net>; <PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 5:38 AM Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Fw: History > Canadians will tell you they "won" the War of 1812 when they whipped the > behinds of invading Americans back across the border where the Yanks have > had the good sense to remain ever since. The Brits will remind that they > humiliated their former colonials by burning their new U.S. capitol to the > ground, which surely seemed like a mighty big loss for the Americans at > that time. Meanwhile Andrew Jackson seized the yellow-fever capital of > New Orleans from the Brits, but that city has been a liability since > Katrina. Fact is, unless one counts the Canadians --a decidedly odd > concept, I concede--there was no "winner" of the War of 1812. All parties > simply got tired of fighting and, as evidenced by the treaty that failed > to address any of the fractious issues, nobody could remember why the > fighting started in the first place. Everybody mostly lost as seems to be > the main lesson of war. America's finest gain from the War of 1812 was > "The Star Spangled Banner." So let's not resurrect the rivalries now with > prejudicial claims. Besides, who cares about the War of 1812? Barb > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gordon Crooks" <gordoncrooks@verizon.net> > To: <PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 5:22 AM > Subject: [PAFRANKL] Fw: History > > > Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 7:58 AM > Subject: History > > > On this day in 1784, the United States (the 13 original colonies of U.K.) > ratified a peace treaty with England, ending the American Revolutionary > War. The United States remained at peace with our homeland until 1812 when > we beat them again and for good and have remained kissing cousins ever > since ! > > Gordon Crooks >

Canadians will tell you they "won" the War of 1812 when they whipped the behinds of invading Americans back across the border where the Yanks have had the good sense to remain ever since. The Brits will remind that they humiliated their former colonials by burning their new U.S. capitol to the ground, which surely seemed like a mighty big loss for the Americans at that time. Meanwhile Andrew Jackson seized the yellow-fever capital of New Orleans from the Brits, but that city has been a liability since Katrina. Fact is, unless one counts the Canadians --a decidedly odd concept, I concede--there was no "winner" of the War of 1812. All parties simply got tired of fighting and, as evidenced by the treaty that failed to address any of the fractious issues, nobody could remember why the fighting started in the first place. Everybody mostly lost as seems to be the main lesson of war. America's finest gain from the War of 1812 was "The Star Spangled Banner." So let's not resurrect the rivalries now with prejudicial claims. Besides, who cares about the War of 1812? Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Crooks" <gordoncrooks@verizon.net> To: <PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 5:22 AM Subject: [PAFRANKL] Fw: History Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 7:58 AM Subject: History On this day in 1784, the United States (the 13 original colonies of U.K.) ratified a peace treaty with England, ending the American Revolutionary War. The United States remained at peace with our homeland until 1812 when we beat them again and for good and have remained kissing cousins ever since ! Gordon Crooks

Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 7:58 AM Subject: History On this day in 1784, the United States (the 13 original colonies of U.K.) ratified a peace treaty with England, ending the American Revolutionary War. The United States remained at peace with our homeland until 1812 when we beat them again and for good and have remained kissing cousins ever since ! Gordon Crooks

What was the man's name? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Crooks" <gordoncrooks@verizon.net> To: PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2011 9:50:23 AM Subject: [PAFRANKL] 1870's Antrim man Folks: I have as published Jan 6, 2011 a clippinmg from the Ballymoney, N. Ireland  newspapebout a man who left Antrim County for America and will send it to anyone interested.                                Gordon Crooks   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Folks: I have as published Jan 6, 2011 a clippinmg from the Ballymoney, N. Ireland newspapebout a man who left Antrim County for America and will send it to anyone interested. Gordon Crooks

Yes I have Swiss German Lancaster Co Pa connections with my Grandfather's line of Troyer. They were from the Bern area of Switzerland and were persicutied by the Swiss as they were menonites and would not join the army with the Swiss rented out to other countries to make money. Now they are more neutral but back in 1700's they rented out their army or were protecting Switzerland from invasions. So a lot of Pa Dutch were Swiss. Pa Dutch term was a corruption of Deutch meaning German or German speaking so could be German, Swiss, or Dutch. Gaile ----- Original Message ----- From: Claire K <seekay@comcast.net> Date: Monday, January 3, 2011 6:10 am Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Fw: Franklin County memories To: Gordon Crooks <gordoncrooks@verizon.net> Cc: PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com > I had a friend from Switzerland visit, and took her to Lancaster > Co., where we took a horse and buggy tour with a Mennonite > driver.  He said something in PA Dutch and she almost fell > off her seat because apparently some of the words were Swiss > German.  I'd taken German visitors there (and they thought > the language was "Americanized" / corrupt German), but she was > my first Swiss German speaker, so my first clue that there was a > Swiss German influence on the language.  Interestingly, > though, she knew nothing about the community's connection to > Switzerland -- I guess the Swiss got rid of the Anabaptists / > Mennonites so thoroughly that no memory of it lingers in their > history. > Claire K. > > > On Jan 3, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Gordon Crooks wrote: > > > Hi Folks: This came to me from a friend ... > > > >      --- > > > > ...Most Mennonites although called Pennsylvania Dutch or old > German were actually of Swiss ancestry (but not necessarily). > > >   > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAFRANKL- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I had a friend from Switzerland visit, and took her to Lancaster Co., where we took a horse and buggy tour with a Mennonite driver. He said something in PA Dutch and she almost fell off her seat because apparently some of the words were Swiss German. I'd taken German visitors there (and they thought the language was "Americanized" / corrupt German), but she was my first Swiss German speaker, so my first clue that there was a Swiss German influence on the language. Interestingly, though, she knew nothing about the community's connection to Switzerland -- I guess the Swiss got rid of the Anabaptists / Mennonites so thoroughly that no memory of it lingers in their history. Claire K. On Jan 3, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Gordon Crooks wrote: > Hi Folks: This came to me from a friend ... > > --- > > ...Most Mennonites although called Pennsylvania Dutch or old German were actually of Swiss ancestry (but not necessarily).

Hi Folks: This came to me from a friend who is also a Ulsterscot, I had mentioned some things about Franklin Co., Pa. to him where he was born and this is his reply. I was talking to him about the Brethren which is a loose group of churches known as the Brethren, they range from the Amish, German baptists, Mennonites, Old Order River brethren and UCC (United Church of Christ). I have studied them for years and they are very interesting people. Gordon --- I was a member of a Mennonite church from age 23 to about 38. Each congregation can be so different in it’s interpretations that it seems like a whole different religion. We had different congregations that were different generations (grandparents at one, parents at another, and young adults at another) off-shoots of each church with slightly different practices. However, all of the congregations would get together for various events, etc. and almost everyone had relatives at the other churches. This also helped to keep the congregations at about 100-125 members, which was considered ideal. Most Mennonites although called Pennsylvania Dutch or old German were actually of Swiss ancestry (but not necessarily). At our congregation, most women stopped wearing caps in the mid-eighties. During the late ‘70’s when it was popular to make home-made wine, many of the women at our church used their lace caps to strain the fermented fruit. The did kind of keep it quiet, but several did it. I thought it was hilarious. There is no way you would have known our church to be a Mennonite church if it weren’t for the sign out front. One also must keep in mind that these people had moved away from the traditional geographic areas where Mennonites, Brethren, etc. are strong. The sense of community was very strong and it was, contrary to many people’s impressions, a really fun group. We were always doing things together. The old idea of a “barn-raising” was always present. We were always building or repairing, etc. and it was made fun....... I mean, hate work, but it was always fun. I learned about carpentry, plumbing, and other skills that have helped me throughout my life. People ask me what Mennonite churches are like and I tell them that it depends on the congregation. It’s impossible to categorize anymore. We had “young” congregations, “Black-Bumper Mennonites,” “Lace-Cap Congregations,” “Farm Mennonites,””Old-Order Mennonites,” some congregations that only want a piano, and some that don’t allow any accompaniment with the singing, etc., etc.,.....and that was just here in Arizona. Adult baptism (Anabaptist), non-violence, Sermon on the Mount, good music, and great pot lucks..........that’s a Mennonite today. Well, I’ve rambled on enough.  - . __._,_.___ Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use. __,_._,___

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I have two Words attachments covering news, genealogy, and other subjects of interest to those who have Irish and Ulstercots ancestors and will send them to anyone who wants them. Gordon Crooks

I have a 1889 letter received from another web site which tells of living conditions in the newly formed states of N. & S Dakota. and the harsh weather and living conditions. This was written by a member of the Brethrem Church, they stayed with other members of the Brethren during their long teak and finally ended up in Virginia.. I will send this to anyone who would like to read it. Gordon Crooks