Hi, Carolyn: I notice the name Moses MOORE in your list of people who came to Path Valley after 1750. My gggf HUNTER was born in Franklin Co., and one of his daughters, born in Mt. Pleasant, Westmoreland Co., moved with him to Ashland, OH, where in 1954 she married a Moses B. MOORE. Have you any idea if there is a connection here? Thanx. Ted

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Hello, I am trying to confirm that my 3rd g-grandfather was a Civil War veteran. Anyone out there that could give a quick lookup in Bates' Regimental History of PA Civil War Soldiers book? My Pennsylvania relative was "Benjamin SMITH". I realize the name Smith is a popular one. He lived in Franklin County for some time. If there are too many "Benjamin Smith" entries for that name, just yell at me nicely. Sorry to bug you. Any info you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! David Stoner Seminole, FL ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------7B787148161C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Listers: I was forwarded this from the Westmoreland List. This is quite lenghthly but is very informative. Just thought some of you may be interested as I was. Sincerely... 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I type very fast and typed my name wrong, and then used auto spell check and since I also don't see as well as I used to I accidentally let my letter go out under the name of Julienne. Wrong it is Jerilyn Sorry I have been very fortunate these past 19-15 years to travel a lot of the world and as I am very interested in the people and their customs I see more than just scenery. I do do the scenery bits, but love the old churches, buildings, museums. I am astounded at how many poor serfs must have died building the tall churches of Europe. This turned out to be very long so if you want - just delete me and go on. Several questions came my way about the cemetery policies in Europe. 1. I do not know if they dig the bones up or if they are gone at the end of the time but will find out. Probably depends on the amount of time you rented your space. 2. I am assuming the rental time starts at the time you purchase the lot. Hadn't really given it any thought before, but that would make sense. I am sure that if the family keeps renting the space they just go on top of each other. 3. One answer said that in England they consider embalming barbaric so they probably don't do it. Particularly today as very environment conscious and that would be putting chemicals in the soil. 4. Other answers brought out the way of the Indians who built pyres and burned their ancestors. Some Indian Tribes put them on the platform in the air and left them. When an Eskimo outlived their usefulness to the community, they just went into the wilderness to die. 5 One answer talked about being in Dublin where they were buried in the dry catacomb and have turned all leatherly. These were the priests and Nuns. I have seen the following in a church in Germany and one in Switzerland for the burial of Saints. They are buried in glass coffins which are kept at the front of the church. They are in their good clothes and are leaned as if on their side and using one arm to hold their head up. This is really odd. The clothes are rotting, but the bones are still OK. I had seen this years ago, but couldn't remember where and we found it again. These were both in Benedictine Monasteries, but I am sure that is not exclusive to them. Will continue with some of our experiences. You have to understand that I have no fear of cemeteries nor have I ever had. In the small towns you visit them often and never forget them on Memorial Day. Our family probably put flowers on 3/4 of the graves every year. My mother, age 82, is still doing it. If we knew the families were too far away or no descendants left to remember the older ones, my mother takes care of it. Plants peonies, iris, etc. Out in western Kansas we don't have as much rain as the East so can't do a lot, but what she can. When I first started this obsession (one of love but an obsession anyway), I used to visit many cemeteries and when the children were young, they were all given the names I needed and on vacations which I carefully scheduled to travel through areas that I needed information from, the four would fan out and yell when they found a name I needed. It is a joke in the family now. I have always had a fascination with the topic as well as medieval history and thus types of torture used by our ancestors. A large paper in high school convinced me that man was not always nice to another man. I am such a softy I can't kill a bug and that is probably why my fascination. Anyway, that might be why I do visit some of the places I do. Now for the travels. In Germany there is not a funeral in a church. They have chapels, I guess you call them that, in each cemetery and it is from there the service is held. No following a hearse, etc. I don't know where that came from. They are buried very soon and as I said in a white shroud. Czechoslovakia was about the same except that I found so many tombstones that had pictures of the deceased on them. I have also seen this at the Czech cemeteries in this country. I find this really great. A lot of the cemeteries in Czechoslovakia had a big stone and were usually covered totally with a large granite slab. Then there were sitting on the slab several small urn types for those who were cremated - again with pictures. We were hunting my husbands families roots at the time and was amazing to find the town they came from that had 9 houses in the 1870's still has 9 houses. As I understand it, they are quite dull on the outside but very nice on the inside - this was to prevent things being taken away during the Communist Regime. When we found his family tombstone it was labeled the family of KOSKAN. Now there were also KOSTKAN's in the same cemetery. Seems some were Catholic and some were Protestant -not sure which, but think KOSKAN were the Protestants. Still working on that. In Rome we took a tour of the Catacombs. I saw not a single bone so asked how can this be the Catacombs with no bones. This was my answer. Many ha been robbed through the years and what was left was not on the tour any more as they had too many people feint. Consequently I got another tour to see how it was done. Paris- When Napoleon rebuilt the city he had to dig up many many cemeteries. He left a beautiful city. At least he didn't build over them. All the bones from each cemetery was kept together and put in the Catacombs under the city and each labeled as to what cemetery they came from and years of use and anything else they might know. How they arranged the bones you can read in the Czech section of this dissertation - guess I had better call it that. The last time I was in Paris I decided to tour the Catacombs. Husband was in meetings all day so I went to the entrance, stood in line (yes it is a big tourist attraction) and paid my money and went down. I am expecting a short little trip. Three hours later I came up far away. They wind all over under the city and I have no idea where I was. Many, many of the tunnels are closed off. Thank God, you would never get back. During World War II, the French Resistance used the Catacombs for their headquarters with no problems. The Germans and others were afraid to go down there in the dark with all the bones.(So they say) In Prague we visited a very very old Jewish cemetery. Here they also were burying one on top of the other. What was interesting is that when they dig for the next person they remove the headstone, bury the new person, put the old headstone back on and add a new headstone. Some of the graves had 7 or 8 headstones. As you know Judaism does not allow cremation-at least that is what I understand. Now the next description does get macabre so if you have a weak stomach - quit reading. I said I would get back to the bone churches. Originally, the bones were all dug up and piled in the crypts of the churches to make way for new graves. A lot of these were the result of the Plague many many years ago. At the one I visited, someone had taken the time to make all sorts of church objects out of the bones. To say it was weird is putting it mildly. One Monstrance (forgot how to spell it) was made using every bone in the human body. The chandelier was made from bones. You would have to have seen it to believe it. No pictures, but I bought postcards. What bones were left were piled very nearly in arches along the sides. Large leg bones all stacked neatly like logs with the skulls sitting on top and all the rest of the extra bones piled behind.. As I said before I know of two Czechoslovakia and one in Italy but there may be more. One more part of the world and I will quit. As you know the Orient has a bad population problem and woman are not allowed to choose how many children they can have in many of the countries. I didn't get into the burial in China other than the Emperors, but in Japan we visited the oddest garden - very sad. There was a shrine covered with probably 5 to 6 hundred small dolls (10 to 15 inches tall). Each doll represented a dead baby, either from abortion or still birth. The numbers were overwhelming and then we were told that they only stay one month and are replaced. This was only for this area of Japan. How sad, but their way of remembering their lost ones. Sorry to end on such a sad note. Travel is fun and like one of the responders to my first missive, it is through the customs of the people and meeting those of other countries that we can perhaps make this a more peaceful country. I have found that wherever I go, people have the same wants for their families. Their customs are different and they go at it a different way, but each wants what is best for their children and none want war or killing. This drive for power causes such disorder in life. We hosted exchange students for 15 years and what a blessing. How can you go to war when you have friends in the country you are supposed to be mad at? OK back to chasing the elusive ancestor. Hope you enjoyed the discourse and I am ready to hit the court houses again. Jerilyn Koskan Orland Park, Illinois ==== PAWESTMO Mailing List ==== To contact Nate Zipfel, Listmaster click below: mailto:nate@pa-roots.com --------------7B787148161C--

I need information on the birth of a baby girl. SURNAME : Bevins / Bivens / Bivins COUNTY OF BIRTH: Franklin Co., PA DATE OF BIRTH: 24 May 1879 Can anyone give me any ideas where this record may be (if there is one). Thanks...Susan

In the genealogy written by William Othniel Taylor in the late 1800s, he writes that the battle in which our ggggrandfather, Captain John Taylor, was killed is described in the "History of the Connecticut Valley". I believe there is someone on this mailing list who has that book. The Indians and French attacked PASCOMMUCH (near Deerfield) on May 15, 1704. John Taylor was killed and another man wounded. Many were taken prisoner. This skirmish took place AFTER the desolation of Deerfield in February. If it is not too long, perhaps someone could copy the description of that battle for me. Thanks. Eileen

I am seeking the descendants of Jeremiah W. GEORGE, b. 11 July, 1826 and his wife Margaret GIFT, b. 3 July, 1826. They were married 12 April 1849 and had four children. Edward Benjamin, Jacob Martin, Anna Mary and Hannah Jane. Both daughters died young but the sons grew to adulthood and married. Margaret GIFT GEORGE died in 1912, but I do not know the date. I would appreciate hearing from any person who has searched this family. Janet in Baton Rouge, LA

I am searching for a person who could either search the Grindstone Hill cemetery or could tell me where I can find a plot (map) of the cemetery. I just came home from Chambersburg and while there I searched the cemetery and was unable to find a particular grave. I did contact a gentleman who was referred to me by the Solomon's Church of Christ and he was unable to assist me. Though he did tell me he would get back to me, but didn't. If you can help me, please contact me personally. Janet in Baton Rouge, LA

Hi All, I am interested in Johnston's in Franklin CTY around the early 1700's. John Johnston born in 1715 m. to Margaret Edmondson b. 1719 in Ireland, he supposedly died in Franklin CTY around 1785. They had a son named George who was born in 1738 and m. Miss McCammon. George's son John was b. 26 Apr 1766 in Shippensburg and m. Sarah Gulick b. 01 Mar 1774. 1766 John eventually ended up in Shelby CTY KY via VA in 1815 with his clan where he died in 1836. Any info would be most appreciated. I have fairly complete info on 1766 John and family. I will gladly share. Thanks, Vonnie Johnston.

Terry listed some surnames of outsiders marrying into the McCurdy line. I am interested in details about Lewis, and Elliott. I have both names coming up in my BOYD line (moved from PA to KY about 1790) John Boyd

Searching for direct line McCurdy, in Pennsylvania. Surnames of females that married McCurdy men, Talbot or Kelly, Myers (pa), Summons (pa), Habecker (pa), Hollinger (pa), Lewis (pa), Fox (pa), Henry (pa), Jackson (pa), Romig (pa), Stetler (pa), Comfort (pa). Surnames of males who married McCurdy women, Reynolds (pa), Hoffecker (pa), Bitler (pa), Michener (pa), Elliott (pa), Habecker (pa). Terry

I am once again coming to the list to ask for help....my gr grandmother was b. May 24, 1879 in Franklin Co...I have been told that the courthouse won't do look ups....if this is true, would anyone be willing to do a lookup for me....she was b. May 24, 1879 / Baby Bevins and adopted by David and Sarah A. Heigley...thanks for any help...Susan

Hello Everyone! Mr. Foreman wrote a series of books about the Fulton/Franklin county areas. They are all very interesting, some history, some genealogy, lots of information. I have a friend who purchased the entire set of books a few years back. I don't know of anyone who has the entire set now (besides the Fulton Co Historical Soc. "Kitchokenny" - mispelled, I know, but that is close to the name of the historical society there) The Hoenstine Library in PA will sometimes have a set of his books to sell, I know they have them to rent. The early MCGEE/MAGEES are mentioned in his books. Patrick McGee & Patrick Magee (yes, there were 2 of them) were very early (pre Rev. War) in the PATH VALLEY area & both served in the Rev. War. I understand that some of the McGees might have been involved with the famous BLACK BOYS (where local settlers dressed up as indians & painted their faces black; raided British wagon trains that were trading arms to the indians - which the indians were then using against the settlers.) If anyone has any interest in the McGees, I sure would appreciate hearing from them! Eilene In a message dated 9/29/99 7:50:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, PAFRANKL-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << I just asked for Fort Loudon Sidelights by Harry E. Foreman. Mr. Foreman did live in Chambersburg but he has since passed away. Is there someone in that area who is known as a historian in the stripe of Mr. Foreman? Kathryn ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike & Tammy <mikej1957@mindspring.com> To: 'kestuart' <kestuart@coshocton.com> Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 7:23 PM Subject: RE: [PAFRANKL] Early Settlers of Path Valley > Please send me the info on the book - I would like to get it on loan as well > or is the title and author all I need > > -----Original Message----- > From: kestuart [mailto:kestuart@coshocton.com] > Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 12:42 PM > To: PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Early Settlers of Path Valley > > > Am I correct then in assuming that this is the area later dubbed "Burnt > Cabins" ? > > I am presently reading the book, "Fort Loudon Sidelights" by Harry E. > Foreman and some of the men mentioned below are mentioned in this book; > it gives information on their land - probably when they came back and > did it right. <G> Got this book on InterLibrary loan. > > Kathryn > ----- Original Message ----- " > From: Carolyn K. Shearer <awscks@erols.com> > To: <PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 10:46 AM > Subject: [PAFRANKL] Early Settlers of Path Valley > > > > > Here is a list of settlers in Path Valley in 1750. (Does anyone know > how to > add this type of material to the Franklin County site so that others > can > find it more easily? Please let me know - I have other primary > material.) > > "History and Topography of Dauphin, Cumberland, Franklin, Bedford, > Adams and > Perry Counties" by I. Daniel Rupp; Gilbert Hills, Pub, Lancaster, 1846. > Chapter 24, History of Cumberland County, p 382. > > Letter of Richard Peters, Secretary of Pennsylvania to James Hamilton, > Esq., Governor of Pennsylvania. > > "Mr. Weiser and I have received your Honor's orders to give information > to > the proper magistrate against all such as had presumed to settle and > remain > on the lands beyond the Kittochtinny mountains not purchased of the > Indians, > in contempt of the laws repeatedly signified by proclamations and > particularly by your Honor's last one, and to bring them to a legal > conviction, lest for want of their removal a breach should ensue > between the > Six Nations of Indians and this Province. We set out on Tuesday, the > 15th > of May 1750 for the new county of Cumberland, where the places on which > the > trespassers had settled, lay. > (there follows a long section about the trip and various meetings, and > other > settlers who were not in compliance) > > "On Wednesday the 30th of May, the magistrates and company, being two > days > detained by rain, proceeded over the Kittochtinny mountains and entered > into > the Tuscara (Tuscarora) Path or Path Valley, through which the road to > Allegheny lies. Many settlements were formed in this valley and all > the > people were sent for, and the following persons appeared, viz: Abraham > Slach, James Blair, Moses Moore, Arthur Dunlap, Alexander McCartie, > David > Lewis, Adam McCartie, Felix Doyle, Andrew Dunlap, Robert Wilson, Jacob > Pyatt, Jacob Pyatt, Jr, Wiliam Ramage, Reynolds Alexander, Samuel > Patterson, Robert Baker, John Armstrong, and John Potts, who were all > convicted by their own confessions to the magistrates, of the like > trespasses with those at Shearman's creek and were bound in like > cognizances > to appear at court, and bonds to the Proprietaries to remove with all > their > families, servants, cattle and effects, and, having all voluntarily > gives > possession of their houses to me, some ordinary log houses, to the > number of > eleven, were burnt to the ground; the trespassers most of them > cheerfully > and a very few of them with reluctance, carrying out all their goods. > (More pages of the trip naming settlers in various places, and > additional > evictions follow ) > > > > > > > ______________________________ -------------------- X-Message: #2 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 14:40:09 -0700 From: "C. Brockfield" <cbfield@interx.net> To: PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990928144009.007bd8b0@interx.net> Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Early Settlers of Path Valley Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" An historian of the stripe of Harry E. Foreman would be a tall order. All of his books on the area are noteworthy. W.W. Britten wrote an exceedingly helpful little history of Upper Strasburg, using the notes of his father (?) grandfather (?)--don't have it in front of me right now--but he died a few years ago. (I wished so that Harry E. Foreman's line was my Foreman family! But no... .) Carol in CA >>

An historian of the stripe of Harry E. Foreman would be a tall order. All of his books on the area are noteworthy. W.W. Britten wrote an exceedingly helpful little history of Upper Strasburg, using the notes of his father (?) grandfather (?)--don't have it in front of me right now--but he died a few years ago. (I wished so that Harry E. Foreman's line was my Foreman family! But no... .) Carol in CA

I just asked for Fort Loudon Sidelights by Harry E. Foreman. Mr. Foreman did live in Chambersburg but he has since passed away. Is there someone in that area who is known as a historian in the stripe of Mr. Foreman? Kathryn ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike & Tammy <mikej1957@mindspring.com> To: 'kestuart' <kestuart@coshocton.com> Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 7:23 PM Subject: RE: [PAFRANKL] Early Settlers of Path Valley > Please send me the info on the book - I would like to get it on loan as well > or is the title and author all I need > > -----Original Message----- > From: kestuart [mailto:kestuart@coshocton.com] > Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 12:42 PM > To: PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Early Settlers of Path Valley > > > Am I correct then in assuming that this is the area later dubbed "Burnt > Cabins" ? > > I am presently reading the book, "Fort Loudon Sidelights" by Harry E. > Foreman and some of the men mentioned below are mentioned in this book; > it gives information on their land - probably when they came back and > did it right. <G> Got this book on InterLibrary loan. > > Kathryn > ----- Original Message ----- " > From: Carolyn K. Shearer <awscks@erols.com> > To: <PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 10:46 AM > Subject: [PAFRANKL] Early Settlers of Path Valley > > > > > Here is a list of settlers in Path Valley in 1750. (Does anyone know > how to > add this type of material to the Franklin County site so that others > can > find it more easily? Please let me know - I have other primary > material.) > > "History and Topography of Dauphin, Cumberland, Franklin, Bedford, > Adams and > Perry Counties" by I. Daniel Rupp; Gilbert Hills, Pub, Lancaster, 1846. > Chapter 24, History of Cumberland County, p 382. > > Letter of Richard Peters, Secretary of Pennsylvania to James Hamilton, > Esq., Governor of Pennsylvania. > > "Mr. Weiser and I have received your Honor's orders to give information > to > the proper magistrate against all such as had presumed to settle and > remain > on the lands beyond the Kittochtinny mountains not purchased of the > Indians, > in contempt of the laws repeatedly signified by proclamations and > particularly by your Honor's last one, and to bring them to a legal > conviction, lest for want of their removal a breach should ensue > between the > Six Nations of Indians and this Province. We set out on Tuesday, the > 15th > of May 1750 for the new county of Cumberland, where the places on which > the > trespassers had settled, lay. > (there follows a long section about the trip and various meetings, and > other > settlers who were not in compliance) > > "On Wednesday the 30th of May, the magistrates and company, being two > days > detained by rain, proceeded over the Kittochtinny mountains and entered > into > the Tuscara (Tuscarora) Path or Path Valley, through which the road to > Allegheny lies. Many settlements were formed in this valley and all > the > people were sent for, and the following persons appeared, viz: Abraham > Slach, James Blair, Moses Moore, Arthur Dunlap, Alexander McCartie, > David > Lewis, Adam McCartie, Felix Doyle, Andrew Dunlap, Robert Wilson, Jacob > Pyatt, Jacob Pyatt, Jr, Wiliam Ramage, Reynolds Alexander, Samuel > Patterson, Robert Baker, John Armstrong, and John Potts, who were all > convicted by their own confessions to the magistrates, of the like > trespasses with those at Shearman's creek and were bound in like > cognizances > to appear at court, and bonds to the Proprietaries to remove with all > their > families, servants, cattle and effects, and, having all voluntarily > gives > possession of their houses to me, some ordinary log houses, to the > number of > eleven, were burnt to the ground; the trespassers most of them > cheerfully > and a very few of them with reluctance, carrying out all their goods. > (More pages of the trip naming settlers in various places, and > additional > evictions follow ) > > > > > > >

Hello I'm new to researching in Franklin County. I have a land record recording the sale of one acre with a school house on Warmspring Road in Hamilton Twnshp in April 1809. Would anyone have suggestions on how to determine if this was a Mennonite school or another religious denomination. Thanks for any assistance. Margaret

Am I correct then in assuming that this is the area later dubbed "Burnt Cabins" ? I am presently reading the book, "Fort Loudon Sidelights" by Harry E. Foreman and some of the men mentioned below are mentioned in this book; it gives information on their land - probably when they came back and did it right. <G> Got this book on InterLibrary loan. Kathryn ----- Original Message ----- " From: Carolyn K. Shearer <awscks@erols.com> To: <PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 10:46 AM Subject: [PAFRANKL] Early Settlers of Path Valley Here is a list of settlers in Path Valley in 1750. (Does anyone know how to add this type of material to the Franklin County site so that others can find it more easily? Please let me know - I have other primary material.) "History and Topography of Dauphin, Cumberland, Franklin, Bedford, Adams and Perry Counties" by I. Daniel Rupp; Gilbert Hills, Pub, Lancaster, 1846. Chapter 24, History of Cumberland County, p 382. Letter of Richard Peters, Secretary of Pennsylvania to James Hamilton, Esq., Governor of Pennsylvania. "Mr. Weiser and I have received your Honor's orders to give information to the proper magistrate against all such as had presumed to settle and remain on the lands beyond the Kittochtinny mountains not purchased of the Indians, in contempt of the laws repeatedly signified by proclamations and particularly by your Honor's last one, and to bring them to a legal conviction, lest for want of their removal a breach should ensue between the Six Nations of Indians and this Province. We set out on Tuesday, the 15th of May 1750 for the new county of Cumberland, where the places on which the trespassers had settled, lay. (there follows a long section about the trip and various meetings, and other settlers who were not in compliance) "On Wednesday the 30th of May, the magistrates and company, being two days detained by rain, proceeded over the Kittochtinny mountains and entered into the Tuscara (Tuscarora) Path or Path Valley, through which the road to Allegheny lies. Many settlements were formed in this valley and all the people were sent for, and the following persons appeared, viz: Abraham Slach, James Blair, Moses Moore, Arthur Dunlap, Alexander McCartie, David Lewis, Adam McCartie, Felix Doyle, Andrew Dunlap, Robert Wilson, Jacob Pyatt, Jacob Pyatt, Jr, Wiliam Ramage, Reynolds Alexander, Samuel Patterson, Robert Baker, John Armstrong, and John Potts, who were all convicted by their own confessions to the magistrates, of the like trespasses with those at Shearman's creek and were bound in like cognizances to appear at court, and bonds to the Proprietaries to remove with all their families, servants, cattle and effects, and, having all voluntarily gives possession of their houses to me, some ordinary log houses, to the number of eleven, were burnt to the ground; the trespassers most of them cheerfully and a very few of them with reluctance, carrying out all their goods. (More pages of the trip naming settlers in various places, and additional evictions follow )

Has anyone run across a family named NOGGLE before 1778 in the area of the Conococheague, "not far from Mercersburg." Mr. Noggle (don't have a first name) went off to the Revolutionary War and was killed 1778 in New Jersey. Sons George and Michael Noggle were "bound out" to a family or families (not sure if they were kept together.) The family that George Noggle was bound out to, treated him cruelly and he finally ran away. Does anyone have knowledge of this family or can you suggest any possible place to find out. I'm told by the Franklin co. Recorder's Office that this would have been Cumberland county in 1778 and that it would be the area of present day Montgomery or Peters twp. Thanks for any clues!! Kathryn

Here is a list of settlers in Path Valley in 1750. (Does anyone know how to add this type of material to the Franklin County site so that others can find it more easily? Please let me know - I have other primary material.) “History and Topography of Dauphin, Cumberland, Franklin, Bedford, Adams and Perry Counties” by I. Daniel Rupp; Gilbert Hills, Pub, Lancaster, 1846. Chapter 24, History of Cumberland County, p 382. Letter of Richard Peters, Secretary of Pennsylvania to James Hamilton, Esq., Governor of Pennsylvania. “Mr. Weiser and I have received your Honor’s orders to give information to the proper magistrate against all such as had presumed to settle and remain on the lands beyond the Kittochtinny mountains not purchased of the Indians, in contempt of the laws repeatedly signified by proclamations and particularly by your Honor’s last one, and to bring them to a legal conviction, lest for want of their removal a breach should ensue between the Six Nations of Indians and this Province. We set out on Tuesday, the 15th of May 1750 for the new county of Cumberland, where the places on which the trespassers had settled, lay. (there follows a long section about the trip and various meetings, and other settlers who were not in compliance) “On Wednesday the 30th of May, the magistrates and company, being two days detained by rain, proceeded over the Kittochtinny mountains and entered into the Tuscara (Tuscarora) Path or Path Valley, through which the road to Allegheny lies. Many settlements were formed in this valley and all the people were sent for, and the following persons appeared, viz: Abraham Slach, James Blair, Moses Moore, Arthur Dunlap, Alexander McCartie, David Lewis, Adam McCartie, Felix Doyle, Andrew Dunlap, Robert Wilson, Jacob Pyatt, Jacob Pyatt, Jr, Wiliam Ramage, Reynolds Alexander, Samuel Patterson, Robert Baker, John Armstrong, and John Potts, who were all convicted by their own confessions to the magistrates, of the like trespasses with those at Shearman’s creek and were bound in like cognizances to appear at court, and bonds to the Proprietaries to remove with all their families, servants, cattle and effects, and, having all voluntarily gives possession of their houses to me, some ordinary log houses, to the number of eleven, were burnt to the ground; the trespassers most of them cheerfully and a very few of them with reluctance, carrying out all their goods. (More pages of the trip naming settlers in various places, and additional evictions follow )

Hi all, Does anyone out there know anything about Christian WOLFF from Guilford Twp., Franklin Co.??? He was a witness in 1802 to John Harmon's will. I think he may be related to my Jacob Wolff. Any help at all is greatly appreciated!!! Thank you! Sharon Frank sharon@kua.net