Thanx to everyone who replied to my questions about Funeral Home Records and Cemetery Records. I mailed out request today to various funeral homes that are listed on my ancestors death certificates, hopefully I'll get as much good information as many of you have. Thanx again! Amy

Hi Everyone! I was wondering what type of records are usually available from funeral homes and cemeteries? Thanx! Amy

Hi everyone, I have just today found more info on Christian WOLFF of Chambersburg and am wondering if anyone can help with"DESCENDANTS"????? I found his parents and grandparents but can't find his kids and grandkids????? I believe he is my Jacob WOLFFs grandfather. Christian came to Chambersburg in 1786 and on May 10, 1789 married Anna KRAUSE, of Lancaster. Christian was also born in Lancaster. I'll gladly share the rest of info I found (two more generations!)!!!! Thank you!! Sharon Frank sharon@kua.net

Hi listers, My gr grandfather was John Royer, b: 1819 where in PA? m: elizabeth Tobias of NY when? They were listed in PA, Crawford Co., N. Shenango Twp. in the 1850 census with a daughter, Elizabeth, age 6 yrs., b: in Ohio. Their second child, Andrew, b: 1852 was listed with the family in the 1860 census of MI, Saginaw Co., Brady Twp. as born in Ohio in 1852. They did not list Elizabeth in 1860 or subsequent census'. Died young? I would like to find the anscestors of John Royer, a birth date and a wedding date. I have records of the family from 1860 forward and am willing to share with anyone interested. Dean Seizert in Fort Myers, FL

Thanx to everyone who replied to my question about marriage. And sorry if I offended anyone by asking a simple question. I understand that love has no boundaries. Amy

Hi Everyone! I have an odd question and have not been able to find an good answer. Why was it common practice for young women in their twenties to marry a man that was significantly older then she was? Thanx! Amy

Hi Folks Continuation of the list of stock holders who bought shares in the Farmers and Mechanics' Bank --- Barbara PAFRANKL list baha@bitxbit.net Farmers and Mechanics' Bank in Green Castle Mar 1815 - Info from PA Archives, Series 9, Volume VI Henry Porterbaugh 10 shares Jacob Stake 6 Michael Tice 20 John Walford 10 Hamilton Richey 10 David Hammond 6 Andrew Letter 10 Conrad Smith 6 Andrew Heatherington 10 Andrew Hartman 10 George Cress 10 Anne W. Lind 5 James Maxwell 20 Jacob Harshbarger 50 John Ruthrauff 10 Henry Snively, of Harry 10 Jacob Winger 10 Henry Snively, of John 10 Jacob Stover, of Mich. 26 George Flora 10 James Clarke 10 John Beatty 10 Andrew Robinson 10 Samuel McCullhon 10 Mathew Lind 20 William Davison 10 John Myers 6 Samuel Hays 20 George Mitchel 10 William McLanahan 24 John Snyder 5 Conrad Looce 15 Martha Fullerton 8 Henry Gardner 10 Rebecca Robinson 10 Jacob Barnet 20 Henry McLaughlin 30 James Snively 20 Henry Barnet 10 John McLaughlin 30 John Barnet 15 Abraham Miller 5 George Long 10 Joseph Bumbaugh 10 Cassy Barnet 30 Susanna McLaughlin 5 Henry Snively, of Leo. 10 Robert Marshall 10 Jacob Myers 10 Arrawine Miller 10 Daniel Royer 8 Henry Funk 48 John Price, Jr. 8 John Nicodemus 10 Henry Kegy 4 John Funk, Jr. 10 Oellig & Bleakney 10 William Fulton 5 Henry Gordon 5 Frederick Deiburk 10 Charles Hartman 10 Phillip Reed 5 David Beaver 4 To be continued

Gail asked: Eleanor CULBERTSON married William McCWEN/McCUNE of Franklin Co. Pa. sometime before 1813 in Franklin Co. Pa. In 1833 they moved to near Columbus, Ohio, and in 1836, moved to Lacon, Marshall Co., Illinois. I have Samuel Culbertson, but didn't have Eleanor. I also have McCune's, but not your William. Try this web page for some additional info: Web Page: http://www.shawhan.com/ If you find William's parents, I would appreciate that info. John Boyd

Kathy, In my line of THOMSON, I have two 3rd Gr aunts, Margaret THOMSON ( 1759 -- 1829) and Barbara THOMSON ( 1761 -- ?), who both married WATSONs. Margaret to Andrew WATSON ( 1755 -- 1823), and Barbara to William WATSON ( 1761 -- ?). Margaret, the 7th child, and Barbara, the 8th child, were daus. of Alexander THOMSON ( 1722 -- 1800) and Elizabeth EDMONSTONE (1728 --1815), both from county of Renfrew Scotland, emigrating to America 1771 >Cumberland/Franklin Co., PA 1772, Corkerhill/Scotland, PA. Alexander and Elizabeth are buried in the Rocky Springs Presbyterian Church/Cemetery, Letterkenny, PA. Margaret and Barbara were also born in Scotland, county of Renfrew, and emigrated with their parents. This information taken from a compilation/44 pp. typescript, titled <<"FAMILY AND DESCENDANTS OF ALEXANDER AND ELIZABETH THOMSON" by Andrew Watson Pentland, abt. 1902-1903>>. In this family history there is a mention of a James WATSON, child #2, of a Robert WATSON ( 1728?, Scotland) and a Margaret WATSON, but from what I can surmise this family lived in Scotland. Robert, b. 1728? and the father of the above named Andrew and William, one Andrew WATSON b. 1731? in Paisley Scotland were brothers. I am willing to share what I have about Andrew and William WATSON, and would like to hear back from you about this. Marybeth Corrigall ACMBJC@aol.com ============================================================ In a message dated 10/5/99 5:16:12 PM, you wrote: <<Is anyone researching a George PRITZ (PRITTS) or a James WATSON from around the 1779 time frame of Cumberland county? Both of these men married daughters of my ancestor, Christopher SEIZE, SEES, SEAS, SEASE. SEESE, SEISE, CEAS, CEASE, SUSS, CEES -- and any other similar variant spellings. George PRITZ married Margaret Catherine SEISS and James WATSON married Sevana (Sarah) SEISS, both before 25 March 1779. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated! Kathy -- ************************************************* Visit my web site for Genealogy and Azores Information: http://www.pacifier.com/~kcardoz and The Azores/World GenWeb Project: http://www.pacifier.com/~kcardoz/azoresindex.html Make your little corner of the world a better place today! ************************************************* >>

Help. I've hit a brick wall! My John T. Smith was born in either in Pennsylvania or New York on November 28, 1821. He left home around 1836-1842 and came to Illinois where he lived in Victoria, Knox County, Illinois for several years. He moved to the Knoxville, Knox County area where he married Antoinette Pratt in 1852 and had 3 children, and married Lovisa Allen in 1866 and had 3 more children. He died in the Knoxville on November 23, 1901. I'm looking for any parent or sibling information. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. I have found 3 of this children's marriage and death records, as well as his second wife's and they do not tell me where he came from. His obituary says Pennsylvania, but the census records list NY. I have not been able to come up with a death certificate for him as of yet. Does anyone know of any other way to access any additional information or is this the end of my line! Thanks again.

Hello, Does anyone have any information on the 1820 or 1830 census for Franklin Co. Pa. concerning Montgomery Township, possibly the town of Mercersburg. Emanuel Rupe/Rupp in the 1830 census. I would like to know what it says about him and any other family members. Also is Emanuel Rupe/ Rupp in the 1820 census for the same area? Where would I find marriage records for this period? Emanuel Rupp/Rupe married Catherine Scott 1825-1830, probably. I am trying to find out sho Emanuel Rupp's parents were, and understand that he may have been raised by a brother, William Rupp/Rupe. Thanks you for your time, Nicky Eickerman Vancouver, Wa.

Here are some possible clues: Lancaster County Wills (Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834) PRITCH, PETER, w/w September 14, 1758, w/p June 7, 1759, Wife. Sabina Pritch. Children: John and George. Ex. Sabina Pritch. Lancaster Borough. WATSON, JOHN, w/w January 17, 1757, w/p February 5, 1757, Wife. Anna Watson. Children: David, James, Hannah, Susanna and Elizabeth. Ex. David Watson and William Young. Leacock Twp. Lancaster County, First Refomed Church (Church Records: Selected Areas of PA, 1600s-1800s) John of George Pritz and Margaret, b. May 1, 1773, bapt. May 24, 1774. Spon: The Parents. -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Cardoza <kcardoz@pacifier.com> To: PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com <> Date: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 1:23 PM Subject: [PAFRANKL] SEES, PRITZ, WATSON >I am interested in a George PRITZ (PRITTS) or a James WATSON , who married >daughters of my ancestor, Christopher SEIZE, SEES, SEAS, SEASE. SEESE, >SEISE, CEAS, CEASE, SUSS, CEES -- and any other similar variant spellings. >George PRITZ married Margaret Catherine SEISS and James WATSON married >Sevana (Sarah) SEISS, both before 25 March 1779. This was when this area was >still part of Cumberland county, but by 1784, was Franklin county. I do not >know if they stayed in Franklin county, but I'd sure like to! :) > >Any help on this would be greatly appreciated! >Kathy >-- >************************************************* >Visit my web site for Genealogy and Azores Information: > http://www.pacifier.com/~kcardoz > and >The Azores/World GenWeb Project: > http://www.pacifier.com/~kcardoz/azoresindex.html > >Make your little corner of the world a better place today! > >************************************************* > >

I am probably repeating myself, but I am at a loss at finding information in Franklin County on my Mowrey & Cromer relation from Franklin County. John Mowrey, b. 4/3/1814, Peters Township - son of ?Daniel Mowrey, b. 5/1788-d. 1857, Chambersburg? Wife: Mary Cromer, m. 3/10/1836 - Mercersburg Siblings: Jacob William Joseph Daniel ? Mary Cromer, b. 5/21/1816 - daughter of George & AnaMaria (Rummel) Cromer Siblings: Josiah Elizabeth Margaret George John Besore Jacob Frederick Jeremiah Besore Andrew Jackson Hannah Esther Both families lived in Franklin County, probably about 1810-1840, after which they moved first to Washington County, MD, then part of the boys moved to Indiana. The spelling of Mowrey may have been Mowery or Mowry or even Maurer at that time. According to one source, George Cromer lived in the 'Jordan' Farm south of Mercersburg and the Mowreys lived on the McDowell or McDonel farm between Bridgeport & Campbell Town at least in 1814. Any help would be appreciated!! as I have hit a dead end in Franklin County. Marilyn Barber Indiana

Independent Companies, Militia and Emergency Troops from Franklin County, PA, all the following were organized Sept 1862. Capt John Jeffries, 94 officers and men Capt John W. Douglas, 85 officers and men Capt James H. Montgomery, 89 officers and men Capt George W. Eyster, 62 officers and men Capt John Denny Walker, 65 officers and men Capt K. Shannon Taylor, 77 officers and men Capt David Houser, 77 officers and men Capt Thomas Fletcher, 84 officers and men Capt Charles W. Eyster, 118 officers and men Capt David Vance, 88 officers and men Capt Andrew M. Criswell, 52 officers and men Capt Christian C. Foltz, 47 officers and men

I am interested in a George PRITZ (PRITTS) or a James WATSON , who married daughters of my ancestor, Christopher SEIZE, SEES, SEAS, SEASE. SEESE, SEISE, CEAS, CEASE, SUSS, CEES -- and any other similar variant spellings. George PRITZ married Margaret Catherine SEISS and James WATSON married Sevana (Sarah) SEISS, both before 25 March 1779. This was when this area was still part of Cumberland county, but by 1784, was Franklin county. I do not know if they stayed in Franklin county, but I'd sure like to! :) Any help on this would be greatly appreciated! Kathy -- ************************************************* Visit my web site for Genealogy and Azores Information: http://www.pacifier.com/~kcardoz and The Azores/World GenWeb Project: http://www.pacifier.com/~kcardoz/azoresindex.html Make your little corner of the world a better place today! *************************************************

Well, I've been faithfully reading the mailings as they come in, hoping that (a) I'll be able to be helpful to someone else or (b) that someone else will ask something related to my folks. Not much luck on either side so far, so I guess it's time to ask my own question! My grandfather, Luther C. Gelwicks, was born in Franklin County Sept. 18, 1853. He ran away from home as a teenager and eventually settled in Delta County, Colorado--but that's another story. His father was Charles Gelwicks b. ca. 1812, his mother was Mary E. (probably for Elizabeth) Couts, born ca. 1825. Charles' father was probably named Daniel. One of Luther's sisters was named Charlotte, b. ca. 1848; she married McCauley Zimmerman in 1870 and they had three children: Cornelia, Gracie, and Guy. I think the family continued to live in Franklin County into the 20th century, probably in Sylvan in Warren Twp. Charles was a farmer, in Guilford Twp. in 1850 and in Warren Twp. in 1860. There was also a daughter named Eleanor, b. ca. 1850, and a daughter Anna, b. ca. 1858. Any of this ring any bells with anybody out there? Gelwicks and Couts are also spelled Gelwix and Koutz, not to mention all the possible misspellings. For all who've read this far, thanks! Judy Hall

Hi, For anyone descended from the Fleagle (etc.) family of the Letterkenny area and elsewhere, there is now a Fleagle-L group. Send the word "subscribe" to Fleagle-L-request@rootsweb.com (or if you prefer the digest form: Fleagle-D-request@rootsweb.com) Sam Andrusko

Perhaps this will help your search - >From "Historical Sketch of Franklin County" by I. H. M'Cauley, 1878, pp. 107-113. "From our county, local men were in the following units" - Regiments include: 35th Regt, 6th Reserves 41st Regt, 12th Reserves 43rd Regt, 1st Artillery 77th Tegt 87th Regt 103rd Regt 107th Regt 108 Regt, 11th Cavalry 112th Regt, 2nd Art. 126th Regt 158th regt 161st Regt, 16th Cav 162nd Regt, 17th Cav 165th Regt 182nd Regt, 21st Cav 201st Regt 205th Regt 207th Regt 209th Regt 210 Regt Independent Battery B also a list of independent companies

Hello This is my first message to this list. I have a Col. Samuel Culbertson who was the eldest son of Irish Alexander Culbertson of "Culbertson Row, Pa. Samuel's second wife was Elizabeth McClay of Lurgan Twp., daughter of Hon. John McClay, Feb. 4, 1777, at Rocky Spring Church. She was born in 1755 and died June 4, 1817. They had a daughter Eleanor, born Aug. 9 , 179--; died Jan. 19, 1852. Eleanor CULBERTSON married William McCWEN/McCUNE of Franklin Co. Pa. sometime before 1813 in Franklin Co. Pa. In 1833 they moved to near Columbus, Ohio, and in 1836, moved to Lacon, Marshall Co., Illinois. Would anyone on the list have any information on my McCwen/McCune line that might be of help to me as I know absolutely nothing other than his name. I know that he was killed in a stagecoach accident in Lacon, Marshall, Co., Illinois and died shortly afterward July 14, 1837. Does anyone know who his parents were, etc. One of her sisters Amelia CULBERTSON married John THOMPSON of Franklin Co., Pa in 1811 and moved to Blue Rock Tp., Muskingum Co., Ohio, in 1825. Anyone know anything about the THOMPSON line? Thank you Gaile

Hello David! I tried to do a quick lookup for you in my Civil War resource books, but, of course, ol' Benjamin Smith tuned into 50 Benjamin Smiths from PA. (I have Smith in one of my lines & I hate it!) I am sending you below the first 20 Benjamin Smiths information. Someone on the list may recognize a Franklin Co Civil War company in the 20 company names shown, all from PA. I will try to send you the remaining 30 Benjamin Smiths & their companies, but it really takes time that I don't have right now. I am leaving the country this Sat. for a month - if I don't get back with you before I go & if you still don't find the right Benjamin Smith, remind me in a month & I will look up the remaining 30 Benjamin Smiths from PA. Do any of these 20 Benjamin Smiths sound like yours? Any idea which unit her served with? If you know where he's buried, many times the name of his company is written on the tombstone. Also look in the county history books, many of the soldiers & their companies were named in the county histories. When you find his company name, you can send to the National Archives for his pension & military records - although they are charging an arm & a leg right now - I think $20.00 a piece ($40.00 for both pension & military records) It used to be $4.00 each - I think it's outrageous to charge $20.00 each! Eilene 1.) Benjamin Smith - Residence not listed; Enlisted on 2/18/65 as a Private. On 2/18/65 he mustered into "K" Co. PA 13th Cavalry; He was Mustered Out on 7/14/65 at Raleigh, NC Sources: - History of Pennsylvania Volunteers, 1861-5 2.) Benjamin Smith - Residence not listed; Enlisted on 9/18/63 as a Private. On 9/18/63 he Substitute into "H" Co. PA 83rd Infantry He deserted on 10/6/63 Sources: - History of Pennsylvania Volunteers, 1861-5 3.) Benjamin Smith - Residence not listed; Enlisted on 7/20/64 as a Private. On 7/20/64 he mustered into "H" Co. PA 194th Infantry He was Mustered Out on 11/6/64 at Harrisburg, PA Sources: - History of Pennsylvania Volunteers, 1861-5 4.) Benjamin Smith - Residence not listed; Enlisted on 2/16/64 as a Private. On 2/16/64 he mustered into "L" Co. PA 2nd Heavy Artillery He was discharged on 6/20/65 Sources: - History of Pennsylvania Volunteers, 1861-5 5.) Benjamin Smith - Residence not listed; Enlisted on 8/12/64 as a Private On 8/12/64 he mustered into "G" Co. PA 5th Cavalry He was discharged (date not stated) He was listed as: * POW 10/7/64 Darbytown Road, VA Sources: - History of Pennsylvania Volunteers, 1861-5 6.) Benjamin Smith - Residence not listed; Enlisted on 6/19/63 as a Private. On 6/19/63 he mustered into "H" Co. PA 27th Inf Mil He was Mustered Out on 8/1/63 Sources: - History of Pennsylvania Volunteers, 1861-5 7.) Benjamin Smith - Residence not listed; Enlisted on 1/16/65 as a Private. On 1/16/65 he mustered into "B" Co. PA 29th Infantry He was discharged on 7/5/65 He was listed as: * POW 2/20/65 (place not stated) * Released 5/5/65 (place not stated) Sources: - History of Pennsylvania Volunteers, 1861-5 8.) Benjamin Smith - Residence not listed; Enlisted on 7/3/63 as a Private. On 7/3/63 he mustered into "G" Co. PA 51st Infantry He was Mustered Out on 9/2/63 Sources: - History of Pennsylvania Volunteers, 1861-5 9.) Benjamin Smith - Residence not listed; Enlisted on 7/1/63 as a Private. On 7/1/63 he mustered into "D" Co. PA 45th Infantry He was Mustered Out on 8/29/63 Sources: - History of Pennsylvania Volunteers, 1861-5 10.) Benjamin Smith - Residence not listed; Enlisted on 3/3/64 as a Private. On 3/3/64 he mustered into "C" Co. PA 88th Infantry He was Absent, sick (date not stated) He was listed as: * POW 5/8/64 Laurel Hill, VA (Paroled) * Wounded 5/8/64 Laurel Hill, VA * Paroled 9/15/64 (place not stated) (Estimated day) Sources: - History of Pennsylvania Volunteers, 1861-5 11.) Benjamin Smith - Residence not listed; Enlisted on 7/6/63 as a Private. On 7/6/63 he mustered into "F" Co. PA 43rd Infantry He was Mustered Out on 8/13/63 Sources: - History of Pennsylvania Volunteers, 1861-5 12.) Benjamin Smith - Residence not listed; Enlisted on 9/12/62 as a Private. On 9/12/62 he mustered into "H" Co. PA 11th Infantry He was Mustered Out on 9/25/62 at Harrisburg, PA Sources: - History of Pennsylvania Volunteers, 1861-5 13.) Benjamin Smith - Residence not listed; Enlisted on 8/12/62 as a Private. On 8/12/62 he mustered into "A" Co. PA 116th Infantry (date and method of discharge not given) (No further record) He was listed as: * Wounded 12/13/62 Fredericksburg, VA * Wounded 7/2/63 Gettysburg, PA Sources: - History of Pennsylvania Volunteers, 1861-5 14.) Benjamin Smith - Residence not listed; Enlisted as a Private (date unknown). He also had service in: "H" Co. PA 29th Infantry (Never joined Regmt) Sources: - History of Pennsylvania Volunteers, 1861-5 15.) Benjamin Smith - Residence not listed; Enlisted on 2/3/64 as a Private. On 2/3/64 he mustered into "B" Co. PA 47th Infantry He was Mustered Out on 12/25/65 at Charleston, SC Sources: - History of Pennsylvania Volunteers, 1861-5 16.) Benjamin Smith - Residence not listed; Enlisted on 6/19/63 as a Private. On 6/19/63 he mustered into "B" Co. PA 29th Infantry He was Mustered Out on 8/1/63 Sources: - History of Pennsylvania Volunteers, 1861-5 17.) Benjamin Smith - Residence not listed; Enlisted on 6/24/63 as a Private. On 6/24/63 he mustered into "B" Co. PA 20th Cavalry (date and method of discharge not given) (No further record) Sources: - History of Pennsylvania Volunteers, 1861-5 18.) Benjamin Smith - Residence not listed; Enlisted on 4/23/61 as a Private. On 4/23/61 he mustered into "F" Co. PA 22nd Infantry He was Mustered Out on 8/7/61 at Philadelphia, PA Sources: - History of Pennsylvania Volunteers, 1861-5 19.) Benjamin Smith - Residence not listed; Enlisted on 7/18/64 as a Private. On 7/18/64 he mustered into "N" Co. PA 192nd Infantry He was Mustered Out on 11/11/64 at Philadelphia, PA Sources: - History of Pennsylvania Volunteers, 1861-5 20.) Benjamin Smith - Residence not listed; Enlisted on 6/19/63 as a Private. On 6/19/63 he mustered into "G" Co. PA 29th Infantry He was Mustered Out on 8/1/63 Sources: - History of Pennsylvania Volunteers, 1861-5 In a message dated 10/5/99 4:19:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, PAFRANKL-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << Hello, I am trying to confirm that my 3rd g-grandfather was a Civil War veteran. Anyone out there that could give a quick lookup in Bates' Regimental History of PA Civil War Soldiers book? My Pennsylvania relative was "Benjamin SMITH". I realize the name Smith is a popular one. He lived in Franklin County for some time. If there are too many "Benjamin Smith" entries for that name, just yell at me nicely. Sorry to bug you. Any info you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! David Stoner Seminole, FL >>