>From the _Village Record_, Waynesboro, 8 Nov 1855: I hereby caution the public against crediting my wife, Lydia Kohler, on my account, as the matrimonial copartnership heretofore existing between her and myself has been mutually dissolved. I will therefor pay no debts that she may hereafter contract. Nov.1 GEO. W. KOHLER ===== ESTATE OF SUSAN HYKES Notice is given that Letters of administration on the estate of Susan Hykes, late of Washington Township, deceased, have been granted to the sub- scriber residing in said Township; and that all per- sons having claims or demands against the said dece- dend are notified to make the same known without delay; and all persons indebted will make payment thereof. ELIAS SNOWBERGER, Admr Nov.1 -- 6w ===== MARRIAGES In Bedford on the 24th ult., by the Rev. John Lyon, Maj. Geo W. Rupp, (formerly of Waynesboro',) to Miss Louisa Thomp- son, of that place.

Hi, Im researching the Butts surname. Anyone else researching this surname, contact me. Carrie

This initially came through the Lower DelMarVa Roots list. I then received it via the PABLAIR-List. With all of the discussion going on about the 2000 Census I fealt it logical to pass this along. THANK YOU... Judy BANJA for passing it on.... Enjoy... Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. ********************************* FIRST CENSUS TAKERS HAD THEIR PROBLEMS (The article below first appeared in the "KENTUCKY FARMER" and was written by Nevyle Shackelford who is with the Department of Public Information, College of Agriculture, University of Kentucky, Lexington, KY.) Sir: I beg to report that I have been dogbit, goose-pecked, cowkicked, briar-scratched, shot at, and called every 'fowel' that can be tho't of. I have worked 12 days and made $2. I have had enough and I beg to resign my position as a census taker for Crittenden Township." So wrote Roger Waite to a marshal of census enumerators for the State of Vermont on August 24, I790 - the year of the first national census in the United States. Research does not reveal whether or not the disheartened and disgusted Waite's resignation was accepted or denied. What is revealed is that the pay for enumerators was very low, even for that day. Government records show that the highest rate paid under any conditions was $1.00 for the count of 50 persons and that was for enumerators in outlying districts where the inhabitants were "widely dispersed." In cities and towns the rate was $1.00 for every 300 persons counted. Out of these amounts, the census takers were obliged to furnish their own schedules "properly ruled" and to take care of any other expenses incurred. In some instances the cost of the schedules was more than the fees collected. Many had never been enumerated before and were naturally suspicious of strangers coming around asking questions. Others, remembering the Biblical reference to the head count for purposes of taxation at the time of the birth of Christ, often displayed a downright unfriendly attitude. Then still other citizens, recalling the plagues that befell the children of Israel following the enumeration made by King David, also refused to cooperate. So when the enumerators persisted with their questioning, they were often lucky to get by with just a dog bite. In a sparsely settled area in Pennsylvania, there is one instance of an enumerator being killed. There were various other reasons on the part of the population for the reluctance to answer questions, but in a 1909 publication issued by the U.S. Census Bureau, it is written that the most potent factor was the widespread belief that the census was connected with taxes. At the end of this first census in 1790, the total population count was a fraction under 4 million. Some authorities of that time, however, were a bit dubious of that figure. Because of the low pay they believed that to make ends meet, some of the enumerators in the "more remote and sparsely settled sections" of the country may have included "some persons not in existence." One reasonable ground for such suspicion stemmed from what was described as the "absurd and ludicrous combinations of names and surnames" listed on the census taker schedules and turned in to the marshals. Officers of the Bureau of Census believed that such names as "Joseph Came, Peter Went, John Sat, Joseph Grackbone, Ruth Shaves, Web Ashbean, Comfort Clock, Sarah Goosehorn, Moses Rainwater, Mercy Cheese, Unity Tallowback, Lookinbill Barnthistle, Sussannsh Beersticker, Constance Cathole," and hundreds of other equally absurd, were spurious and not the names of real citizens. The old Bureau of Census publications goes on to say that in 1790, there were 27,337 surnames in the United States with English and Scotch names, or derivations of these names, being preponderant. This year, two centuries later, the cost of counting the heads of some 222 million citizens will be much more. And as in the days of old, some members of the population may resent what they may consider an invasion of privacy and set their dogs on the enumerator. But as sociologists in the University of Kentucky College of Agriculture point out, taking the census is necessary for the continued good welfare of the nation.

In a message dated 3/14/00 5:52:46 AM !!!First Boot!!!, PAYORK-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > I'm not one to send virus scares, but this is a true virus > and has an attachment of photos (supposedly) > possibly with the file name MI20.zip > > If you receive email with a file attachment from > somebody you know and the message says they > are sending you photos that they finally got scanned > DO NOT DOWNLOAD IT. It may not really be from them. > Email the person and make sure they sent it. > > For those on AOL, when you sign on, it says your password > is incorrect but accepts it the second time, then when you > get on, your mouse locks up. In addition, you are unable > to shut down from Windows. > This seems to have hit several people I know on Saturday. > They are still working on the problem. > > Hi All, I received this virus yesterday & luckily I recognized it for what it was & deleted it. It apparently is making the rounds of the lists via some unwitting persons email. I suggest that EVERYBODY update & run their VIRUS SOFTWARE again (if you don't already do it daily). Another twist for AOL users, it says "Hi I am the person that you were talking to on Instant Messanger". I have had my IM's shut off for 6 months!!!!!!!!!!!! BE CAREFUL EVERYONE!!! Sincerely, Sharon Lantzy Wygant SSchu22739@aol.com Surnames: Anderson, Hasselor, Kingston, Lamer (Leamer, Lehmer), Lantzy (Lenzi), McAnulty,McCullough, McLane (McLain,McLean, McLene), O'Cain Patton, Robertson/Robinson, Shankle, Simpson, Sitter, Steen, Stuchell, Thompson (Thomson), White, Wygant.

----- Original Message ----- From: clyde wood <jackw126@earthlink.net> To: <PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 7:27 AM Subject: [PAFRANKL] Fw: MCKEE,MORELAND, YOUNG > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: clyde wood > To: PAFRANK-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 7:24 AM > Subject: MCKEE,MORELAND, YOUNG > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: clyde wood > To: > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 7:06 AM > Subject: MCKEE,MORELAND,YOUNG > > I am researching my husband's families of Northern Ireland-James MCKEE(b.1787 Ire.-died 1874 Franklin Co.Pennsylvania and who married in the Falling Spring Presbyterian Church in PA, Sarah YOUNG b.1804 Ire.).Sarah was the daughter of Moses YOUNG b.Bachnamullough, Co.Down 1774 and Jane MORELAND b.1774 Bachnamullough. > Would you please put these names in your web site with my e-mail address? > jackw126@earthlink.net > Thank you so much, > Joanna and Jack Wood in Alabama,USA > > > >

Hello Everyone! I am searching for information on the parents and other ancestors of William Leckler FUNK born abt 1857 in Franklin Co., PA. William married Belle BLANKLEY in March of 1888 and died the same year also in Franklin Co. His son Charles William FUNK was born in Jan 1889. I do know that William's parents are Samuel FUNK born abt 1818 in PA and Isabelle ( ? ) born abt 1835 in PA. Other children of Samuel & Isabelle are: Mary A. FUNK born abt 1856, Ann E. FUNK born abt 1861, Louisa M. FUNK born abt 1863, John E. FUNK born abt 1864, Ida A. FUNK born abt 1867, Susan C. FUNK born abt 1869, Effie FUNK born abt 1873, and Dora FUNK born abt 1876 all in PA. Do any of these names sound familiar to anyone? I would greatly appreciate any information about this line. Thanks! Kerry

Hello Fellow Listers: Have you ever sat down and actually figured out how many grandparents and ancestors you have??? I often times will ask someone if they truely realize just how many persons it took to "get you"!!!!! Do you know??? This was sent through the Cumberland County, PA. List... > How Many Ancestors Do You Have? > > 1 1 YOU > 2 2 parents > 3 4 grandparents > 4 8 great grandparents > 5 16 gg grandparents > 6 32 ggg grandparents > 7 64 gggg grandparents > 8 128 ggggg grandparents > 9 256 gggggg grandparents > 10 512 ggggggg grandparents > 11 1,024 gggggggg grandparents > 12 2,048 ggggggggg grandparents > 13 4,096 gggggggggg grandparents > 14 8,192 ggggggggggg grandparents > 15 16,184 gggggggggggg grandparents > 16 32,768 ggggggggggggg grandparents > 17 65,536 gggggggggggggg grandparents > 18 131,072 ggggggggggggggg grandparents > 19 262,144 gggggggggggggggg grandparents > 20 524,288 ggggggggggggggggg grandparents > 21 1,048,576 gggggggggggggggggg grandparents > 22 2,097,152 ggggggggggggggggggg grandparents

If you extend the math to 36 generations you end up with 34 billion 359 million 738368 grandparents. Using 20 or 30 years per generation this is only 720 to 1080 years back. It is clear that there have not been 34 billion people over that period. Today there are only about 6 billion, and at the beginning of the 20th century there were one billion. There is something in the population math as experts use it which shows that the simple math does not really apply.. I think it has to do with the fact that these gransparents aren't just our grandparents, but other people's grandparents too, and that you get into crossrelationships which reduces the numbers. This doubling is the same issue as when someone asks for the very humble payment in rice or grain for each square of the chessboard, beginning with one, and doubling it on each square. It works on the chessboard, but with people there are additional dynamics and issues, and as 34 billion shows, the math leads to absurd results. Maybe someone has a scientific explanation for why the math doesn't work with people. Knut W. Barde Donna wrote: > Hello Fellow Listers: > > Have you ever sat down and actually figured out how many grandparents > and ancestors you have??? I often times will ask someone if they truely > realize just how many persons it took to "get you"!!!!! Do you know??? > > This was sent through the Cumberland County, PA. List... > > > How Many Ancestors Do You Have? > > > > 1 1 YOU > > 2 2 parents > > 3 4 grandparents > > 4 8 great grandparents > > 5 16 gg grandparents > > 6 32 ggg grandparents > > 7 64 gggg grandparents > > 8 128 ggggg grandparents > > 9 256 gggggg grandparents > > 10 512 ggggggg grandparents > > 11 1,024 gggggggg grandparents > > 12 2,048 ggggggggg grandparents > > 13 4,096 gggggggggg grandparents > > 14 8,192 ggggggggggg grandparents > > 15 16,184 gggggggggggg grandparents > > 16 32,768 ggggggggggggg grandparents > > 17 65,536 gggggggggggggg grandparents > > 18 131,072 ggggggggggggggg grandparents > > 19 262,144 gggggggggggggggg grandparents > > 20 524,288 ggggggggggggggggg grandparents > > 21 1,048,576 gggggggggggggggggg grandparents > > 22 2,097,152 ggggggggggggggggggg grandparents

Donna: Yes, we each have a goodly bunch of direct predecessors. But not so many as you think. It's a fascinating subject--it's been calculated that the number of our ancestors, using your method, would far exceed the number of people alive on this planet at a given time. Solution? Many of the people in your tree are the same people filling duplicate relationships. There was more intermarriage and convoluted branches than any reasonable person would expect! Carol

I would like to invite all of you to join us for genealogy chat for northwestern IL and related Pennsylvania counties on Thursday evening at 8:00pm CST. I may be late tomorrow evening but all of you just start without me. Just go to www.freeportillinois.com and press the chat button on the right hand side. It loads in a little slowly sometime but is worth the wait. When it comes up, it will ask for your name and for a profile. Put the surnames you are researching in the profile part. Have fun. Lou Cook

Does anyone have ANY information on the following families?: Marriage Records by Rev. A.A. McGinley, D.D. Found in the Appendix, p. 92-97 of the book "History of Path Valley Presbyterian Churches" by Rev. D.I. Camp and Rev. J. Warren Kauffman. Published in 1916 by the Repository Press in Chambersburg, Pa. 1825 Wm. Fitzsimmons and Eliza Holman - Eliza b. 1807, m at age 18 (I have the descendents on this family, they went to Crawford Co, OH in 1831) 1833 Dan Kekerise and Mary Holman - ?Was this the second marriage of Mary Holman Peter Stake and Caroline Holman - 1843 Mr. Jeffries and Harriet Holman Eliza Holman listed her parents as John Holman and Mary Collins. John Holman was in 1820 & 1830 Fannett Twp, Franklin Co, Pa census, with daughter right age to be Eliza in 1820. Then no John in 1840 in Fannett, did he die and his widow marry Dan Kekerise or??spelled?? It looks like this John Holman was in Cumberland Co, PA census in 1810. I see Peter Stake in Fannett Twp in 1840 & 1850 census. Cannot find a "Kekerise" or anything similar in ancestry.com census records. Was the surname spelled differently? Any information on these names would be greatly appreciated..............Pat Lenhart

Hello Fellow Listers: The Juniata County Historical Society is sponsoring a bus trip to the National Archives in Washington, DC on Wednesday, April 19th. The cost is $25.00 per person. Terry Wheeler, a member of the Historical Society is in charge. Money needs to be in Terry's hands by April 4th. If interested - e-mail me at: djzinn@pa.net and I can supply you with more info and the phone numbers for the Juniata County Historical Society or Terry Wheeler. Best Wishes... Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA.

John Agett died recently. His wife, Winnie still lives in Dry Run but the funeral home is run by Park-Geisel out of Chambersburg. Dry Run is very small and if you want to send mail to the funeral home, you can simply address it to the Agett Funeral in Dry Run and it will get there. If you prefer, however, I can get you the PO box number as I work with a family member from the Agett family. Terry Shade jshade@innernet.net

I apologize for my last post. Evidentially the person who sent me the info did not have the entire story. Sorry for the misinformation. Below is what someone else sent me regarding this issue. Some conflicting information, take it all with a grain of salt since neither have dates associated with them. Amy There have been postings on a number of mail lists recently about an > increase in the fees the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) > charges for copies of compiled military service records and pension records. > While NARA is considering a change to the fee structure for these documents, > the information that has been posted is both premature and somewhat > inaccurate. The Records Preservation and Access Committee, a joint endeavor > of the Federation of Genealogical Societies and the National Genealogical > Society, has contacted NARA officials for clarification. The following is > the "official NARA statement" issued in response to our inquiry: > > -Begin NARA Statement: The National Archives and Records Administration > (NARA) will be issuing a proposed rule within the next few weeks that will > revise fees for reproduction, including the "fixed-fee" orders in the NATF > 80 series. The proposed rule will have a 60-day public comment period, > during which time we will actively seek the comments of the user community. > > The proposed rule is presently undergoing internal government review. When > it is released for publication in the Federal Register, NARA will notify the > national genealogical organizations and post a copy of the proposed rule on > its web site. The message will include the exact URL and the address for > sending comments. -End NARA Statement- > > The Records Preservation and Access Committee will continue to monitor this > proposal, and will post relevant information on the Records Preservation and > Access pages of the Federation of Genealogical Societies' Web site > (http:www.fgs.org) when it is available. > > Please feel free to forward this posting to other mail lists on which the > original posting may have appeared. > > Jack Brissee Chair, FGS/NGS Records Preservation and Access Committee > ---- end quoted message -----

This came across another list.... The National Archives will be increasing the price of Military Service Records from $10 to $17.50, Pension Records (Rev. War, Civil War, etc.) from $10 to $40 Effective July 1, 2000. Amy

I have been told that Henry Maxwell appears on a 1750s tax list in what is now Franklin County. Are there tax records like this in existence and, if so, where might they be. Thanks for your help Josette Maxwell Boone, NC

John and Virginia Agett still run the Agett funeral home. It is in Dry Run. The address is 18875 Main St. 17220. They are very organized folks, so they probably have records of where everyone is buried. -----Original Message----- From: HodyMae@aol.com <HodyMae@aol.com> To: PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com <PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, March 06, 2000 1:05 AM Subject: [PAFRANKL] Agett Funeral Home >Does anyone know the address to the Agett Funeral Home ( I think that's how >you spell it) in Franklin County, PA. And would they have a listing I can go >through to find out where everyone is buried? > >Thank you, >Linda > >

Does anyone know the address to the Agett Funeral Home ( I think that's how you spell it) in Franklin County, PA. And would they have a listing I can go through to find out where everyone is buried? Thank you, Linda

I just wanted to thank everyone for the replys, I will definately find a way to get it. Thanks again Carrie

Here is an FYI that came across another list. I hadn't heard of this before today, so I'm not sure of the accuracy of this news release. Amy National Archives Statement on Records Center Fire U.S. News wire 1 Mar 15:39 National Archives and Records Administration Statement on Records Center Fire To: National Desk Contact: National Archives Public Affairs, 301-713-6000 WASHINGTON, March 1, /U.S. Newswire/ -- The following is a statement from John W. Carlin, archivist of the United States, on the Feb. 29 Records Center Fire: Yesterday (Tuesday, Feb. 29), the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) reported a fire in its Washington National Records Center in Suitland, Md. The fire was contained by the Center's fire-safety system and extinguished with no reports of harm to staff or visitors, but some records were damaged. The following is an update on that from Archivist of the United States John Carlin. Although much work will be needed before we can be certain, we believe that of the total of more than 3.7 million cubic feet of records at Suitland, approximately 3,000 cubic feet were in the immediate area. Of those, fewer than 300 cubic feet may have been destroyed. Most of the affected records were wet or damp from sprinkler water or in singed boxes. Our staff at Suitland stayed up through last night making valiant efforts to protect records from water damage and otherwise dealing with the fire's effects, working with personnel from the General Services Administration, from which we lease the facility. The cause of the fire is as yet undetermined. Because the property is Federal, the FBI and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms as well as GSA fire investigators were notified. As the investigation continues, the following is what we know about the fire so far. The sprinkler alarms were activated at 2:30 p.m. Tuesday, and alerted the GSA Control Center that there was a problem. The first fire company arrived sometime between 2:45 and 2:50. A fireman on the scene was overcome with smoke at which point firemen abandoned Stack 15 to open the roof hatches to vent the smoke. This process apparently took approximately one hour to accomplish before the firemen returned to Stack 15 to begin to extinguish the fire. The sprinkler system contained the fire during the period between 2:30 and 3:50 at which point the firemen were able to enter the stack. At 8:13 p.m. the firemen on the scene felt that the fire was sufficiently extinguished to allow the investigation to begin in the stack. Our tracking system enabled us to identify the records on the shelves affected by the fire, and agencies whose records may have been affected have been notified. But we won't be able to identify exactly which records have been affected and how seriously until the investigation of the area is completed and we can examine the materials more closely. I will provide further information as it becomes available. ------ For further information, contact the National Archives public affairs staff at 301-713-6000. -0- /U.S. Newswire 202-347-2770/ 03/01 15:39 Copyright 2000, U.S. Newswire