--part1_9d.6d6bdc0.267b9332_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am posting this Query to the list again in hopes that Someone will help me do any kind of lookup. I thank the 2 kind souls that sent me good wishes to find David's Mother Grace, but no one else has offered. Is anyone willing to help? I am in California and am not able to go to PA. Thanks Stacy --part1_9d.6d6bdc0.267b9332_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <Blumoo8133@aol.com> From: Blumoo8133@aol.com Full-name: Blumoo8133 Message-ID: <fb.6aab5f3.266d737f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 17:19:59 EDT Subject: Looking for Davids Mother To: PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 102 Hi group, I need a helping hand on this one. Looking for a Grace PATTERSON (surname) born 1892-93, we think in Rouzerville. In 1910 she had a son David E. PATTERSON, born 12-22-1910. His birth Cert says place of birth Franklin County, Township Washington, Borough, Rouzerville. The father is listed as C. PROVARD, (I have his Info) On April 22, 1914, David was taken to the Orphanage, I believe he was 4. The person who brought him to the Orphanage was the Director of the Poor Through Margaret R. Amberson. David later was taken to a farm at the age of 11-12 and he worked on the Farm of Harry Osbaugh. David was indentured in 1921. (free to go) What happened to Grace PATTERSON? Who were her parents? Did she ever marry? We need closure for David he will be 90 years old this year, I am frantically looking for info to complete his family tree. His birthday is coming up soon we are having a family reunion in July (early Birthday) and this would be the best gift anyone could give another. He seems to think that Grace was put into the poor house due to a break down, this is unconfirmed, but all possibilities are on the table at this point. I can be reached at Blumoo8133@aol.com please email me if you or someone you know can do a look up for me. Oh and what is the year the Death certificates were documented? Maybe I can find Grace PATTERSONs Death Certificate. Thank you all for reading this long post. Wish me good thoughts. David is grateful to all who are willing to help. Stacy --part1_9d.6d6bdc0.267b9332_boundary--

I am new to the list. Looking for MOONEY's who were born in Maryland. The information for generation's one and two below is largely undocumented. Gen. 1 Josiah Mooney, abt. 1740/50 i. Joseph Gen. 2 Joseph Mooney, abt. 1760/1770, MD m. Bethany i. Elizabeth ii. Lazarus iii. Joseph iv. George v. Parthenia vi. Hugh P. Gen. 3. Hugh P. Mooney, 1812, MD or NC m. Sarah Everett?? i. John B. 1839 NC ii. Robert 1845, NC iii. Rebecca 1846 iv. Rachail 1847 v. Elizabeth 1855, vi. Jennifer 1852 vii. H___fer 1853 viii. Jenny 1856 ix. Cyrine 1858 x. Hugh Price 1862, TN xi. Lee 1864, TN xii. Ellen 1868, TN I would appreciate any information on this family. Ron Estes

Looking for Samuel Dunmire b. abt. 1830. Family tradition says Dunmire was associated with Scotland area and may have been step brother to Sabina and Sadie Haddle. By 1860 census Samuel is married to Caroline Virginia McGuire of Hampshire Co. Va. They may have lived for short time prior to this in Franklin Co. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Ann agatha1@flash.net

I am searching for information on the families of Jacob and Rebecca Lemons Martin. This Martin family is in the Franklin County 1850 census living in St. Thomas Township. Jacob was born about 1808 and states he is from Maryland and lists his occupation as wagonmaker. Rebecca was born about 1811 and is from Pennsylvania. Their children are listed as Amanda, Samuel, Ephraim, Rebecca, James, Daniel, and twins Charlotte and Henry. After the birth of the twins, the Martins moved to Henry County, Indiana, and are found in the 1860 Census in Prairie Township living in Hillsboro. Ann, John and Lloyd have been added to the family, but daughter Rebecca is missing. The death certificate of Lloyd Martin states that his mother was Rebecca Lemons of Pennsylvania. Jacob and Rebecca are my third great grandparents. I will be glad to share all information I have on this family. Thanks, Jane

In a message dated 6/12/00 10:01:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, PAFRANKL-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << Does anyone happen to have easy access to the 1820 c for Antrim Township? I need the information that it has for Andrew Steel and James Steel. If someone happens to have that I would really appreciate it. >> Name State County Location Page Year Steel, Andrew PA FRANKLIN CO. ANTRIM TWP 115 1820 Steel, James PA FRANKLIN CO. ANTRIM TWP 115 1820 Steel, John PA FRANKLIN CO. MONTGOMERY TWP 092 1820 Steel, John PA FRANKLIN CO. SOUTHAMPTON TWP 119 1820 Steel, Mary PA FRANKLIN CO. CHAMBERSBURG TWP 082 1820 Steel, Mary PA FRANKLIN CO. CHAMBERSBURG TWP 083 1820 Steel, Mary PA FRANKLIN CO. GREEN TWP 127 1820 Hope this helps :) Sincerely, Sharon Lantzy Wygant SURNAMES: Anderson, Como, Hasselor, Heintz, Kingston, Lamer (Leamer, Lehmer), Lantzy (Lenzi), Lydick (Leidig), McAnulty, McCullough, McLane (McLain,McLean, McLene), O'Cain, Patton, Robertson/Robinson, Shankle, Simpson, Sitter, Steen, Stuchell, Thompson (Thomson), White, Wygant.

I'm looking for the parents of Elmina Thomas, wife of Benjamin F. Shively. Her Mother's name is Caroline. Does anyone know her Father's name? Caroline is the Head of the Household on the 1860 census, Green Twp. 1860 census shows: Caroline Thomas age 38 Orlando age 13 Elmina age 14 John age 10 Elias age 6 Zebediah age 4 George age 1 Any help appreciated. Thank you. Verna Williams

I'm researching Solomon & Rebecca (Embich/Embick) Shively in Green Twp. On the 1850 census there is a Mary Reed age 18 living in the household. Are there any Reed researchers who can identify Mary?

Does anyone happen to have easy access to the 1820 c for Antrim Township? I need the information that it has for Andrew Steel and James Steel. If someone happens to have that I would really appreciate it. Sincerely, Vicky Tallent Tennessee

In a message dated 6/12/00 2:01:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, PAFRANKL-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << I would appreciate a look-up in the census of 1810 for Stephen Hepfer, Jr. and wife Catharine Hoffman. I need a listing of their children, etc. There are variations of the Hepfer name (Hoepffer, Hippert, etc.) Thank you. >> I believe that the 1810 census only contains the name of the head of household & therefore would be no help on the wife & children. 1850 was the first year to have the entire families names. Sorry :( Sincerely, Sharon Lantzy Wygant SURNAMES: Anderson, Como, Hasselor, Heintz, Kingston, Lamer (Leamer, Lehmer), Lantzy (Lenzi), Lydick (Leidig), McAnulty, McCullough, McLane (McLain,McLean, McLene), O'Cain, Patton, Robertson/Robinson, Shankle, Simpson, Sitter, Steen, Stuchell, Thompson (Thomson), White, Wygant.

I would appreciate a look-up in the census of 1810 for Stephen Hepfer, Jr. and wife Catharine Hoffman. I need a listing of their children, etc. There are variations of the Hepfer name (Hoepffer, Hippert, etc.) Thank you.

Hi... This past Thursday I took a trip up to PA to the Kittochtinny Historical Society in Chambersburg, Franklin Co., PA to research David Lopp (my GG-Grandfather) and Catharine Cell Lopp (my GG Grandmother). Thanks to the work of many people, I was able to locate Catharine's grave site. Unfortunately, David seems to have disappeared after her death. Buried along with Catharine are two of their young children, and a man by the name of Solomon Cell (probably her uncle.) I noted in the 1880 census for Franklin Co. there were several of the other Lopp children (Aaron, Calvin, Emma, George and William). I noted that William (my G-grandfather who later moved to Illinois) was 19 years old and working for Jacob (age 49) and Solomon Cell (age 48) on a farm. My question is -- what happened to Catharine's Husband, David Lopp after her death (Feb 1878). There was very little information on the other Lopps despite the fact that the majority were born in the Franklin Co. PA area. I would greatly appreciate any help that anyone can provide. Many Thanks in advance. Elaine McDonald

Hi All, While checking out the webpage for the new Mel Gibson Movie "The Patriot" at: http://www.spe.sony.com/movies/thepatriot/ I discovered that they have some really good Revolutionary War Links on their page! To get to them go to the above addy, then click enter site, then click on links. This section has the links: THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR History of, Primary Sources, People of, Locations, Battles & Events, Organizations, Museums, Reenactors, Link Indices Sincerely, Sharon Lantzy Wygant SURNAMES: Anderson, Como, Hasselor, Heintz, Kingston, Lamer (Leamer, Lehmer), Lantzy (Lenzi), Lydick (Leidig), McAnulty, McCullough, McLane (McLain,McLean, McLene), O'Cain, Patton, Robertson/Robinson, Shankle, Simpson, Sitter, Steen, Stuchell, Thompson (Thomson), White, Wygant.

And again thanks to Carolyn the 1794 Pewholder list has been added. ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/franklin/church/1794pewrockyspr.txt or http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/franklin/ if you want to see what else is there. -- joe

My thanks to Carolyn too, for the Pewholders list. It confirmed other info I had. Thankyou Carolyn, Judy M from Minnesota

To anyone interested in the Rocky Spring Church: I have transcribed the tombstones from Egle's "Notes and Queries" 1895 edition, along with a few annotations of wills and census records. Joe has posted to the Franklin county genweb. To see them go to ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/franklin/cemeteries/rockyspring01.txt Carolyn

Can any one help? I recently petitioned for help from every county of PA and have found many helpful people. I need some more help now that I know where to look. I am looking for any information from county census or colonial census prior to 1788. I know there was no federal census until 1790 but have been informed there are county and colonial census. My 5 great grandfather JOHN JACOB KOPF was born in Lancaster Co., PA December 1766. His parents are CONRAD KOPF and MARIA MAGDALENE ?? KOPF. My 5 great grandfather has gone by the name Jacob with several spellings of the last name which include: Kopf, Kop, Kopp, Copp, Cop, Cup, Cupp, etc. Jacob was baptized at Cocalico Reformed Church, Ephrata, Lancaster Co., PA, a Lutheran (German) Church. I need look up in tax record, church records of like faith in your area, newspaper information, marriage look ups or just any kind of information I can get. I have been told Jacob may have had a brother or uncle called Abraham (Aham) or one called Volentine. CONRAD is said to have been in Chester Co., PA in 1756. I am also helping to try and connection three separate lines of Cupp therefore I would appreciate any or all Cupp information. Of special interest are information on Jacob or Conrad, siblings, parents, etc. Thanks you so very much for your help. I have been told there were Cupp's in all the counties I am sending this to. Patricia

Marybeth - We meet again! I have been working on a transcription of the graves at Rocky Spring Presbyterian Church. Here are two which appear to belong to you: THOMSON, Alexander b 1722, d 26 Feb 1800 Elizabeth, wife of Alexander b 1727, d 12 Nov 1815, "Leaving a posterity of 167 living and 20 dead' -----Original Message----- From: ACMBJC@aol.com <ACMBJC@aol.com> To: PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com <PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 5:45 PM Subject: [PAFRANKL] Re: [ALL] Roll Call: Neely, Wright, Willoughby, Richey, Glancy, Foster >John, > >For some reason your name looks familiar to me. I am not sure if I have >corresponded with you in the past, and if so, please excuse the repetition. > >My 2nd Gr-Grm, Nancy nee WRIGHT THOMSON, was born abt. 1776, possibly in the >Cumberland/Franklin Co., PA area. She married my 2nd Gr-GRf, James THOMSON, >b. 1772, Cumberland/Franklin Co., PA, d. ca. 1845-48, Ross Twp., Allegheny >Co., PA. I am searching for Nancy's parents and siblings. > >According to a 44 pp. typescript on LDS microfiche # 6018156, of which I have >a copy, titled <<"FAMILY AND DESCENDANTS OF ALEXANDER AND ELIZABETH THOMSON", >by Andrew Watson Pentland, Abt. 1902-1903>>, Nancy was born abt. 1776, and >was from Pine Twp., Allegheny Co., PA. This couple's 7th and last known >child, my Gr-Grf, Robert THOMSON (1815--1883) was born in Allegheny Co., PA. >James married a second time to a Margaret PEEBLES sometime abt. 1823, as this >couple had a son, William Peebles THOMSON, b. 1824, Allegheny Co., PA. From >this data I am *assuming* that Nancy WRIGHT died ca. 1815--1823. No place of >burial known for her. > >I also have information from the "Cumberland County Will Abstracts", by >Edward Wright (do not know if this person is related), of a James WRIGHT, >Peters Twp. His will written 13 Mar 1760, and recorded Jan 1763, in which a >Wife: Agnes, Only son: John WRIGHT, Overseer: John McDowell, and Witnesses: >John McDowell, John Cunningham are named. This information contained in Vol. >A., p. 102. I am wondering if the "Only son" John *could* be the father of >my Nancy WRIGHT. > >Any thoughts or information you could supply would be greatly appreciated in >helping to solve this puzzle. > >Thank you for your time. > >Marybeth Corrigall >ACMBJC@aol.com > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >In a message dated 5/29/0 5:32:55 PM, you wrote: > ><<There were two main Samuel Neely's in Allegheny County in the early >1800's. One lived in Robinson Township (S of the Ohio River and W of >Pittsburgh) and the other lived in Pine Township (N of the Ohio River >and W of Pittsburgh). They lived about thirty miles apart but were >separated by the river. I am descended from the Pine Twp. Samuel Neely. >He was born 1759 in Ireland and died February 1829 in Pine, Allegheny, >PA. > >I believe he came to America in the latter half of the 1790's based on >the birth dates and locations of his children. His first wife died >between 1800 and 1805. He remarried and had seven more children the last > >being born in 1830 after Samuel died. Some of his children married >Wrights (2 daughters and a son), at least one Willoughby, at least one >Richey and a Glancy. > >Samuel's son, Thomas (1817-1892), my ancestor, married Lucinda Glancy. >They lived primarily on the North Side and had four children who married > >Dickey, Wilson, Bell, and Foster. The last is my ancestor. Thomas's son, > >John N. Neely (1850-1889), married Rose Anna Foster. > >Other families who are related are Rineer, Mason, Sloan and Shiel. >I am interested in connecting to any of the descendants of any of these >families. > >I am interested in any evidence of when Samuel Neely came to America. >(The years just prior to 1800 seem to be short of information on >arriving ships.) > >I will be happy to share what information I have. My web page below has >much of what I have researched. > >I have not been actively engaged in my genealogy for the past year or so > >but I do monitor the Neely list and I will answer emails within a day or > >two. > >-- >John Middleton, Leawood, Kansas >Middleton, SCT>Liverpool, Eng>Chicago, IL, 1800-1920; Neely, IRL>PA, >1759-1900; >Chid(d)ester, WV>OH, 1800-1900; Som(m)erville, Grasmere, Eng, 1700-1850 >Web Page: http://www.planetkc.com/jmcpa > >>> >

Bob, I am also responding to your post regarding the WRIGHT surname. I have snet a post to the PAALLEGH list, as well as to John and Dorothy. My 2nd Gr-Grm, Nancy nee WRIGHT THOMSON, b. abt. 1776, possibly Cumberland/Franklin Co., PA, d. ca. 1815-1823, Allegheny Co., PA. Married to my 2nd Gr-Grf, James THOMSON, b. 1772, Cumberland/Franklin Co., PA>Allegheny Co., PA, 1807, d. ca. 1845-48, Ross Twp., Allegheny Co., PA. This couple's 7th and last known child, Robert THOMSON (1815--1883) was my Gr-Grf. I do know that James THOMSON had an older brother, William THOMSON, b. 1750, County of Renfrew, Scotland>America in 1771 with parents and siblings>Washington/Beaver Co., PA ca. 1785-1790, d. ca. 1822-25, Beaver Co., PA. William had a son, Alexander THOMSON, of Beaver Co., PA, married to one Jane McELHANEY. I find it interesting that you mention the surnames THOMPSON and McELHANEY in your post below. If you should have any information regarding my Nancy WRIGHT, her parents or siblings would like to hear from you. Thank you for your time. Marybeth Corrigall ACMBJC@aol.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------- In a message dated 6/2/0 11:52:37 PM, you wrote: <<Hi Harry Sharp & John Middleton, Does my Elizabeth Neely m. John Wright connect ? Descendency of 1st 2 generations follows. Bob Wallace in IL Descendants of Elizabeth Neely 1 Elizabeth Neely b: February 04, 1797 ??? d: March 12, 1881 Georgetown, Beaver, PA . +John Wright b: April 01, 1786 ?, ?, NY d: January 16, 1839 Georgetown, Beaver, PA m: 1812 ??? ........ 2 Mary"Polly" Wright b: March 12, 1813 ?, PA d: ?, Beaver Co, PA ............ +Louis Pugh b: 1806 ?, VA d: ?, Beaver Co, PA m: May 09, 1839 ?, Beaver Co, PA ........ 2 Amy Wright b: July 02, 1815 ?, PA d: 1825 Georgetown, Beaver, PA ........ 2 Martha Ann Wright b: April 18, 1816 ?, PA d: 1875 Georgetown, Beaver, PA ............ +William McElhaney b: 1818 ??? d: February 21, 1895 ?, Beaver Co, PA m: ?, Beaver Co, PA ........ 2 William D Wright b: June 14, 1817 ?, PA d: Georgetown, Beaver, PA ............ +Emma Thompson b: ?, Callaway Co, MO d: ?, Callaway Co, MO m: 1844 ??? ........ *2nd Wife of William D Wright: ............ +Rachel Potts Green b: ??? d: ?, Beaver Co, PA m: 1864 ??? ........ *3rd Wife of William D Wright: ............ +Sarah Pugh b: 1834 ??? d: ?, Beaver Co, PA m: 1880 ??? ........ 2 Jane Wright b: June 22, 1819 ?, PA d: February 12, 1897 Georgetown, Beaver, PA ............ +Jonathan Lyons b: ??? d: ?, Beaver Co, PA m: December 17, 1849 ?, Beaver Co, PA ........ 2 John Davidson Wright b: March 09, 1821 ?, PA d: December 19, 1883 Georgetown, Beaver, PA ............ +Minerva Jewell b: May 28, 1832 ?, Beaver Co, PA d: March 14, 1917 ?, Beaver Co, PA m: January 04, 1849 ?, Beaver Co, PA ........ 2 Thomas M Wright b: January 01, 1823 ?, PA d: December 18, 1908 ?, Beaver Co, PA ............ +Malinda Potts b: February 02, 1826 ?, Beaver Co, PA d: September 16, 1865 Greene Tp, Beaver Co, PA m: 1842 ?, PA ........ *2nd Wife of Thomas M Wright: ............ +Jane Anna Cowfer b: February 10, 1845 ??? d: 1929 ?, Beaver Co, PA m: 1870 ?, Beaver Co, PA ........ 2 Elizabeth"Betsy" Wright b: January 02, 1825 ?, PA d: June 1880 Green Tp, Beaver Co, PA ........ 2 Andrew Wright b: October 31, 1826 ?, PA d: October 21, 1903 Georgetown, Beaver, PA ........ 2 Jonathan D Wright b: May 10, 1828 ?, PA d: February 27, 1891 Green Tp, Beaver Co, PA ............ +Mary Jane Cain b: April 07, 1832 ?, Beaver Co, PA d: May 10, 1905 Green Tp, Beaver Co, PA m: May 10, 1855 ?, Beaver Co, PA ........ 2 Robert Wright b: March 07, 1832 ?, PA d: December 02, 1905 New Cumberland, WV ............ +Mary Ann Cain b: August 11, 1835 ??? d: October 25, 1900 New Cumberland, WV m: 1858 ??? ........ 2 David Conkle Wright b: November 30, 1833 ?, Beaver Co, PA d: June 04, 1894 Hookstown, Beaver Co, PA ............ +Margaret Chase b: 1837 ?, PA d: May 22, 1920 E Liverpool, OH m: March 04, 1856 ?, PA ........ 2 Nathaniel Wright b: April 06, 1836 ?, PA d: November 11, 1913 Green Tp, Beaver Co, PA ............ +Margaret Smart b: ?, PA d: ?, Beaver Co, PA m: 1857 ?, Beaver Co, PA >>

John, For some reason your name looks familiar to me. I am not sure if I have corresponded with you in the past, and if so, please excuse the repetition. My 2nd Gr-Grm, Nancy nee WRIGHT THOMSON, was born abt. 1776, possibly in the Cumberland/Franklin Co., PA area. She married my 2nd Gr-GRf, James THOMSON, b. 1772, Cumberland/Franklin Co., PA, d. ca. 1845-48, Ross Twp., Allegheny Co., PA. I am searching for Nancy's parents and siblings. According to a 44 pp. typescript on LDS microfiche # 6018156, of which I have a copy, titled <<"FAMILY AND DESCENDANTS OF ALEXANDER AND ELIZABETH THOMSON", by Andrew Watson Pentland, Abt. 1902-1903>>, Nancy was born abt. 1776, and was from Pine Twp., Allegheny Co., PA. This couple's 7th and last known child, my Gr-Grf, Robert THOMSON (1815--1883) was born in Allegheny Co., PA. James married a second time to a Margaret PEEBLES sometime abt. 1823, as this couple had a son, William Peebles THOMSON, b. 1824, Allegheny Co., PA. From this data I am *assuming* that Nancy WRIGHT died ca. 1815--1823. No place of burial known for her. I also have information from the "Cumberland County Will Abstracts", by Edward Wright (do not know if this person is related), of a James WRIGHT, Peters Twp. His will written 13 Mar 1760, and recorded Jan 1763, in which a Wife: Agnes, Only son: John WRIGHT, Overseer: John McDowell, and Witnesses: John McDowell, John Cunningham are named. This information contained in Vol. A., p. 102. I am wondering if the "Only son" John *could* be the father of my Nancy WRIGHT. Any thoughts or information you could supply would be greatly appreciated in helping to solve this puzzle. Thank you for your time. Marybeth Corrigall ACMBJC@aol.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------- In a message dated 5/29/0 5:32:55 PM, you wrote: <<There were two main Samuel Neely's in Allegheny County in the early 1800's. One lived in Robinson Township (S of the Ohio River and W of Pittsburgh) and the other lived in Pine Township (N of the Ohio River and W of Pittsburgh). They lived about thirty miles apart but were separated by the river. I am descended from the Pine Twp. Samuel Neely. He was born 1759 in Ireland and died February 1829 in Pine, Allegheny, PA. I believe he came to America in the latter half of the 1790's based on the birth dates and locations of his children. His first wife died between 1800 and 1805. He remarried and had seven more children the last being born in 1830 after Samuel died. Some of his children married Wrights (2 daughters and a son), at least one Willoughby, at least one Richey and a Glancy. Samuel's son, Thomas (1817-1892), my ancestor, married Lucinda Glancy. They lived primarily on the North Side and had four children who married Dickey, Wilson, Bell, and Foster. The last is my ancestor. Thomas's son, John N. Neely (1850-1889), married Rose Anna Foster. Other families who are related are Rineer, Mason, Sloan and Shiel. I am interested in connecting to any of the descendants of any of these families. I am interested in any evidence of when Samuel Neely came to America. (The years just prior to 1800 seem to be short of information on arriving ships.) I will be happy to share what information I have. My web page below has much of what I have researched. I have not been actively engaged in my genealogy for the past year or so but I do monitor the Neely list and I will answer emails within a day or two. -- John Middleton, Leawood, Kansas Middleton, SCT>Liverpool, Eng>Chicago, IL, 1800-1920; Neely, IRL>PA, 1759-1900; Chid(d)ester, WV>OH, 1800-1900; Som(m)erville, Grasmere, Eng, 1700-1850 Web Page: http://www.planetkc.com/jmcpa >>

Hi, I am looking for information about Horse Valley, Franklin Co. Pennsylvania. Is there anywhere on line that I can read about this area? Thanks, Doreen BELTZ, HEBERLING, KERR, MULL,