I pick up these two books at a book auction about a year ago in Chambersburg. They are: THE NECROLOGY OF FRANKLIN COUNTY PENNSYLVANIA, vol. 1 and vol. 2 by J.F.W. PFLUEGER WRITTEN IN 1981 vol one contains: Trinity United Church of Christ Church Death Records Trinity Evangelical Lutheran Church Death Records Death records complied by Paul and Maggie Cluck , who collected death records from 1927 through 1980. vol 2 does not say where the records came from. I am sure there are more volumes to this set but I have not seen any. I have used these books with other research and they always proved correct with the information in them. J. F. W. Pflueger wrote a whole series of books called TOMBSTONE INSCRIPTIONS FRANKLIN COUNTY PA. These are in volumes divided by townships. I only have a few of these, Judy

I would like to know this also. Jana Knopf C. Brockfield wrote: > Judy: Can you tell more about this source, "Necrology of Franklin County"? > What years does it cover, how complete is it, and when and by whom was it > published? Carol

Found a death record of James Carr, Browns Mill age 57 yrs., 8 months, 17 days died Jan. 1, 1899 This is from book- NECROLOGY OF FRANKLIN CO., PA., Vol. 2 He could be buried at Browns Mill Cemetery, I do not have a record of that cemetery, maybe someone else does. Judy

Buried in Burns Hill Cemetery, east end of Waynesboro. Carr, Sherman 1868 1953 Carr, Mary E. Shockey 1876 1915 This information taken from book, Tombstone Inscriptions Franklin Co., PA volume 22, Burns Hill Cemetery. If you write to the library in Waynesboro and ask if someone could look up the Obit. in the newspaper, they may do it for a small donation or I could do it next time I am in that area, just not sure when it would be. Judy

Donna Heller Zinn wrote: > Hello Fellow Lister: > > Can anyone out there tell me if Franklin [aka Franklintown], Washington > Twp., Franklin Co. and Tomstown, Quincy Twp., Franklin Co. are one and > the same or two separate entities... Hi Donna, How are things at Perry Historians? Can't tell about Franklintown, but Warner Beers History of Franklin Co, 1887, says Tomstown was settled by John Toms about 1820, so it would have been Tomstown before 1838. It had a pop. of 200 in 1887, and at one time was home to a large Mormon settlement. I found no mention of Franklintown in the book, either in Washington or Quincy Twp.s. Bill

I also would like information about this book . I am seeking date of death for Henry Small b.abt 1784, lived in Mont Alto. He was last listed on the on the 1870 census and lived with son Ephriam. Thank you Phyllis Grein

Judy: Can you tell more about this source, "Necrology of Franklin County"? What years does it cover, how complete is it, and when and by whom was it published? Carol

Hi everyone, I have a set of books I really don't need anymore and wondered if anyone would be interested in buying them?? I would like $150.00 for the set. They are a 3 Vol. Set called "Pa. German Pioneers". They are in excellant condition (haven't had them that long and got them brand new). Just drop me an e-mail at sharon1@cfl.rr.com for more info., questions or if interested! Thanks! Sharon Frank

Searching and hitting a brick wall!!! Jacob Sherman CARR b. 18 Apr 1868, Brown's Mill; d. 5 Mar 1953, Waynesboro. This is my grandfather. He lived at one time on Clay Hill Road, Antrim Twsp. As far as I know he also lived a short time in Cumberland Co. My uncle Miles Henry CARR b. 22 Jan 1901 in Graceson. The other children were Wm. Lloyd CARR b. Aug 1899 Lamaster; Annie Bell CARR b. Oct 1904 Rouserville; and Ida Pearl CARR b. Sept 1907 Waynesboro (my mother). I am searching for information on his parents---possibly James & Annie CARR, according to Sherman's obit. Sherman married 1898, Mary Esther SHOCKEY b. 1 Dec 1876 Washington Twsp, d. Feb 1915 Waynesboro (Highland Avenue). There might have been a Hugh CARR in the ancestry. Sherman had a brother named Charles Hugh CARR who lived in Chambersburg. I am also looking for the final resting place of Sherman's parents and other ancestors. Sherman and Mary Esther are buried in Burns Hill Cemetery, Waynesboro. We are planning to attend the CARR reunion in Greencastle on Aug. 27, 2000. I would like to search a couple of cemeteries that morning. I thank you in advance for any bits of information that you can give me. Pat (NEWELL) Smith (RMSPAS@nni.com)

Hello Fellow Lister: Can anyone out there tell me if Franklin [aka Franklintown], Washington Twp., Franklin Co. and Tomstown, Quincy Twp., Franklin Co. are one and the same or two separate entities. I've checked the 3rd Edition of the Pennsylvania Line and the only town listed was that of Tomstown, Quincy Twp.. I understand that Quincy Twp. was established out of Washington Twp. in 1838. I found a deed which listed that a John CLEM purchased Lots #39 and #83 in the "town of Franklin" in 1818 and 1819 from a John TOMS. He later sold one of them to a Jacob FIRST in 1833. THANKS in advance! Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA.

A chart that I've found very helpful on relationships can be found at: http://www.grl.com/grl/relationship.shtml Shark Lady Shrklady@erols.com Researching Franklin County for Allison, Lightner, Hale/Hehl, Shatzer, Flack, Dorner, et al. ----- Original Message ----- From: Carey L. Chilcote <clchilcote@penn.com> To: <PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Once Removed, etc. etc. etc. UGH I'm really upset with how my nice table wrapped into an ugly and worthless piece of trash. Try this instead. common ancestor > gggrandparent < common ancestor ggrandparent siblings ggrandparent grandparent 1st cousins grandparent parent 2nd cousins parent your dad 3rd cousins your dad's cousin I test sent it to myself and it looks much more like what I had intended. Chock one up to lessons learned... :) Carey Chilcote -- Researching Chilcote/Chilcoat and related Booher, David, Fleck, Harris, Rutter, Smith and others... ______________________________

Hi Pat, That's an interesting character set you're using. :) > Relationship Chart. > > Great chart at: > > http://users.erols.com/emcrcc/Rel_chart.htm > > Pat Lenhart Indeed, that IS a great chart, no less so for proving my humble attempt at explanation to be correct. :) This chart, though, is generic and more expansive than mine, thus much more useful. Thanks for sharing its location with us. I know I'll bookmark it! Carey Chilcote -- Researching Chilcote/Chilcoat and related Booher, David, Fleck, Harris, Rutter, Smith and others... >

UGH I'm really upset with how my nice table wrapped into an ugly and worthless piece of trash. Try this instead. common ancestor > gggrandparent < common ancestor ggrandparent siblings ggrandparent grandparent 1st cousins grandparent parent 2nd cousins parent your dad 3rd cousins your dad's cousin I test sent it to myself and it looks much more like what I had intended. Chock one up to lessons learned... :) Carey Chilcote -- Researching Chilcote/Chilcoat and related Booher, David, Fleck, Harris, Rutter, Smith and others...

Hi DJ, > Hi Gang, Can anyone tell me what "once removed" and "twice > removed", etc., means. My father is according a third cousin > of someone but I am (to this same person) a third cousin "once > removed". I know I should probably know what this means but > I do not. Thanks in advance, DJW of Salina, Kansas. The short version is that the level of cousin is the number of generations between the pair of even cousins and their common ancestor minus one because the first generation down from the common ancestor are siblings, not cousins. With your father as a third cousin, you'd have to go back four generations from him to reach the common ancestor. common ancestor..> great great grandparent <..common ancestor great grandparent................siblings..................great grandparent grandparent.........................1st cousins.........................grandparent parent...................................2nd cousins..................................parent your father..........................3rd cousins.........................your father The removals show the number of generations offset between odd cousins. For instance the related parent of your father's 3rd cousin would be your father's 2nd cousin once removed, while the grandparent of your father's 3rd cousin would be your father's 1st cousin twice removed. Because there's one generational offset between you and your father's 3rd cousin, you and that person are 3rd cousins once removed. The children of this 3rd cousin once removed, if any, would be your 4th cousins. On second thought, maybe that's the long version... :) Carey Chilcote -- Researching Chilcote/Chilcoat and related Booher, David, Fleck, Harris, Rutter, Smith and others...

Am looking for info on an Angle who made furniture at Claylick around the late 1800's or early 1900.I believe I have a chest of drawers made by him which was handed down to me by my mother and am sure it came to her via her mother or grandmother who was the daughter of William Angle who was married to a Mary Elizabeth Rowland.Write me at jenelli@msn.com

Hi Gang, Can anyone tell me what "once removed" and "twice removed", etc., means. My father is according a third cousin of someone but I am (to this same person) a third cousin "once removed". I know I should probably know what this means but I do not. Thanks in advance, DJW of Salina, Kansas. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Rebel8954@aol.com> To: <WALLACE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 6:48 AM Subject: [WALLACE-L] My Wallace Line > Thought I'd repost this to see if anyone can help. > > My Wallace line (confirmed) starts with Benjamin Harrison Wallace. He was > born 1790 probably in Lunenburg Co., VA. He married Emality (Lettie) Wilkes > (daughter of Minor Wilkes, Jr. & Phebe White) in Lunenburg Co., VA (I > believe) in 1811. They subsequently moved to Cabell Co., VA (now WV). I > have tons of documentation on their descendents. > > Benjamin had 2 known siblings, Robert & Mary/Polly. Both siblings also > married into the Wilkes' family. Benjamin's mother was Susannah (last name > unknown). His father is thought to have been either Hugh son of William or > William son of Hugh. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. Anybody needs information that I have > on the above is welcome to it. > > Thanks - Melinda Holley >

I appreciate all the responses for info on Altoona, but I was answering someone else's question, not looking for the answer. Hopefully the person who asked has read the responses. Judy in GA

Thank you everyone for all your help in finding the county Altoona, PA is in. I really appreciate all the help. Jeanette

Hi Judy, > I don't know if anyone ever answered the question about what > county Altoona is in, but it looks like Blair Co. > Judy in GA Sorry, not all my responses go through the list. That old axiom about giving a person a fish or teaching the person how to fish holds true here. If you have full internet access and can use a browser to view data on the World Wide Web, try this address to the Geographic Names Information Service offered by the United States Geological Survey, a part of the U. S. Department of the Interior. http://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html At this site, you can enter the name of a city, borough, town or village and find out what state and county it's in. Sometimes there will be multiple results because the place exists in several places. For instance, in addition to the Altoona in Blair County, Pennsylvania, it's a populated place in each of the following: Etowah County, Alabama Lake County, Florida Polk County, Iowa Wilson County, Kansas Madison Parish, Louisiana Jackson County, Ohio Wahkiakum County, Washington Eau Claire County, Wisconsin It will also help find some cemeteries, but not all of them are listed with GNIS, particularly not the small private or family cemeteries. I think it's a terrific tool. Many obituaries throw place names around as if every reader will automatically know where that place is. This web site helps narrow down the possibilities. The alternative would be to buy a gazetteer for each state of interest. I highly recommend that you add this site to your Favorites, bookmark it, or whatever your browser calls the act of saving an address so you can easily navigate back to this wonderfully useful site. Oh, if you're copying a name from a word processing document to paste into any of the fields on the query form, any trailing space can limit your results. Good hunting! Carey Chilcote -- Researching Chilcote/Chilcoat and related Booher, David, Fleck, Harris, Rutter, Smith and others...

I don't know if anyone ever answered the question about what county Altoona is in, but it looks like Blair Co. Judy in GA