Ruth, for what it's worth - I searched Barnes and Noble website on "American Methodism" (AM) and it listed 107 items in the "used and out of print" section. Many are very low cost. But you might want to do that search at the library and see what turns up on the catalog. One book they listed is about "two centuries of AM in the Susquehanna area". Several referred to the concept of 200 years of history and focused on it's practice in various states. One of those in particular was published by American Bible Society about 1984. It didn't say if any of them list the pastors, so I don't know if that is the same book you are seeking. Hope that may be helpful to you. Tink At 09:01 AM 9/19/06, you wrote: >Kathy, >Thank you, >Ruth >----- Original Message ----- >From: "KATHY" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:52 AM >Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Methodism in Mercersburg 1807-1984 > > > > Hi Ruth, > > The book was a gift , so I have no idea where it is available , if I >find out I will let you know . > > > > > > Kathy > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to everyone who responded to my Shockey Family query. Hopefully, I will now have success in my research while in PA. Anne Miller

Tink and list, A book from 1984 would have an ISBN, IF it was printed by a regular publisher, usually on the reverse of the title page (aka the copyright page), the back cover and/or the spine of the book. As this is a church history, however, it may well have been published by the church itself or -- if the history covers more than one church, as the title suggests -- an organization associated with the denomination. Such self-published books might or might not have an ISBN, depending on whether the church/organization knew to apply for one. But Tink is right that author/title/keyword searches will work in most library catalogues. Something with a regional appeal like this might exist only at the church(es) or possibly the local library, however. I checked worldcat.org and found no entries, but perhaps a more localized search would have a better result. Claire K. Tink Miller wrote: > One further clarification - copyright was not my point. You aren't > looking for the copyright info. You are looking for an > ISBN#. Copyright was only mentioned as a guide on to where to find > the ISBN #, if there were one. > > The ISBN# in modern books is always listed on the same page as the > copyright information. But - you don't need the copyright > information to search the library catalogs. You can use any of the > following: the ISBN#, the author, the title, or a keyword from the > title or the subject. Sorry if I confused everyone. > Tink > > > At 01:29 PM 9/19/06, you wrote: > >>I have searched the book inside out , there is no copyright . From >>the letters written about the church from many pastors in the area , >>the closest date I can get is 1984 . The book is a soft cover and on >>the back it says 200th Jubilee of 200 years of American Methodism . >> There are many names of those who designated gifts to the church >>in 1984 among them is a Mr and Mrs Merle H Bingaman , Dr and Mrs >>Richard McClarren , some other surnames ; Lowans , Pheil, Garnes , >>Beard , Grove , Chamberlain , Hawbaker , Hege , Shoop, Gossert, >>some of these families were married into my Beck family . >> There is a list of Pastors starting in 1818 with J.Caleb Reynolds >>and ending with 1980 to present ( I guess 1984 ? ) James A. Diles >> I would think that the church would have a copy , and the local >>Library too , but not sure what they would list it as ? >> >> >>Kathy >> >> >> >> >>--------------------------------- >>Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Roger I'm wondering if that Mary Barrick could be Mary Rearick. It's also interesting how these families are so intertwined, not only by marriage but also geographically. You list John Jacob Barnhart in Ogle County, Illinois. The brother of Susan Elsie Reymer Barnhart, Jacob Franklin Raymer 1875 - 1963 and yes, the spelling is correct, went to Ogle County from Greencastle and married Nellie Edith Chapman, no children. John Raymer

Roger Do you have any dates for Daniel & Mary? I have Mary's maden name as Rearick. Thanks for the Info. Joe Barnhart [email protected] wrote: >Descendants of Daniel Barnhart > >1 Daniel BARNHART >. +Mary BARRICK >.. 2 John Jacob BARNHART b: March 26, 1860 in Greencastle, Franklin Co., >PA (appears in 1900 Byron Twp., Ogle Co., IL census) d: November 08, 1939 >in Byron, Ogle Co., IL Burial: Silver Creek Cemetery, Mt. Morris Twp., Ogle >Co., IL >...... +Amanda Elizabeth BAKENER b: August 1866 in PA m: January 10, 1884 >in Ogle Co., IL d: May 12, 1938 in Ogle Co., IL Burial: Silver Creek >Cemetery, Mt. Morris Twp., Ogle Co., IL Father: Frederick Bakener Mother: Catharine >(Waggaman) Waggoner >...... 3 Earle BARNHART >...... 3 Iva BARNHART >.......... +Milo GARMAN b: January 23, 1902 in Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., >IL m: Bef. 1924 d: September 06, 1981 Burial: Fairmount Cemetery, Polo, >Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL Father: Cyrus Daniel Garman Mother: Rebecca Jane >Rubendall >...... *2nd Husband of Iva BARNHART: >.......... +Lee WESTERMAN b: November 27, 1906 in Leaf River, Ogle Co., IL >m: Bef. 1972 d: June 1977 in Leaf River, Ogle Co., IL Father: Jurren >"George" Westerman Mother: Esther Boomgarden >...... 3 Vena M. BARNHART b: October 10, 1905 in Byron, Ogle Co., IL d: >March 20, 1972 in Oregon, Ogle Co., IL Burial: Daysville Cemetery, Nashua >Twp., Ogle Co., IL >.......... +John G. COLSON b: 1900 m: December 22, 1926 in Oregon, Ogle >Co., IL d: 1965 Burial: Daysville Cemetery, Nashua Twp., Ogle Co., IL Father: >George Emil Colson Mother: Ellen Hoar >...... 3 Minnie M. BARNHART b: April 1885 d: 1959 Burial: Byron >Cemetery, Byron, Ogle Co., IL >.......... +Silas B. HEDGES b: 1882 d: 1939 Burial: Byron Cemetery, >Byron, Ogle Co., IL >...... 3 Mertie Viola BARNHART b: July 23, 1889 d: 1894 Burial: Silver >Creek Cemetery, Mt. Morris Twp., Ogle Co., IL >...... 3 Nellie BARNHART b: August 1891 >.......... +Melvin A. MARGET b: January 1886 d: 1962 Burial: Byron >Cemetery, Byron, Ogle Co., IL Father: Angelo Marget Mother: Lura ? > >Roger Cramer >Peoria, Arizona >Roger and Sue Cramer's Genealogy Site >http://members.aol.com/rogercubs/index.html >Ogle Co., IL Genealogy Site >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle/ > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Glenn Your CD lists Ann Elizabeth Baker m. to Henry W. Barnhart, but does it list also list his wife, Mary Rearick ? The Simon W. Barnhart you mention is S. Witherspoon Barnhart. Do you have anything more on Baker, I am also interested on a portion of that line. Thanks John L. Raymer

Dear Nance: Any and All Questions are Welcome to ALL the Group ! I know of no-one that has one last name to research except maybe : I hear West Virginia Jokes about it all the time ! Glenn E. Yeager Genealogist >From: "gordon crooks" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Franklin County Cemetery Lookup >Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 13:15:53 -0400 > >Nance: You should direct a msg. to Joe Barnhart asa he does that family. > > Gordon >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Nance" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:44 AM >Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Franklin County Cemetery Lookup > > > > Looking for Johann George Barnhart b 1797 Fannett, Franklin Co > > probably died before 1850 > > also for his son Wilhelm Michael...no dates > > Many thanks in advance > > > > > > Best Regard, > > Nance > > > > --------------------------------- > > Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small > > Business. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Find a local pizza place, music store, museum and more…then map the best route! http://local.live.com

Dear Chuck! Sorry Chuck , All I could find on Cd with RICH was : Edna F. Dixon b. 12 Jun. 1904 d. 01 Jun.1992 and married a RICH buried Green Hill Cemetery , Waynesboro,PA. You probally have Her , Sorry could find nothing else! Glenn E. Yeager Genealogist >From: "chuck class" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: "paf" <[email protected]> >Subject: [PAFRANKL] Orphans schools >Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 11:15:56 -0400 > >I know that some of you have been following my progress with the records of >the schools I found out that the only thing that might have survived were >old journals with the students names not much help to me I have a phone # >for the school in Scotland PA where the records wound up that school is >still active I will not post phone # but if you want it email me direct >My Gr Grandfather was DR William B Rich Born abt 1805 CT He spent most of >his life in Tioga Co PA and when he died my Grandmother Emma J Rich and her >brother Isaac Went to the orphans school in Mansfield The DR's ancestors >are my problem (brick Wall) >[email protected] >Thank You >chuck > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Share your special moments by uploading 500 photos per month to Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.get.live.com/spaces/features

In a message dated 9/19/2006 4:31:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I have searched the book inside out , there is no copyright . From the letters written about the church from many pastors in the area , the closest date I can get is 1984 . The book is a soft cover and on the back it says 200th Jubilee of 200 years of American Methodism . --- If the book was published in 1984 (or thereabouts) it doesn't need to have a notice in order to be under copyright. See: http://www.unc.edu/~unclng/public-d.htm Joan

To those of you researching BARNHART, I am looking for information about the ancestors of Susan Elsie Reymer/Raymer, dau of Archibald & Sarah Hawbecker Reymer/Raymer Descendants of Henry W. Barnhart 1 Henry W. BARNHART b: 1806 d: 1886 Age at death: 80 est. . +Ann Elizabeth BAKER b: 1809 d: 1896 Age at death: 87 est. .... 2 Daniel Swisher BARNHART b: Mar 07, 1832 in Middleburg, PA. d: Aug 08, 1921 Age at death: 89 ........ +Mary A. REARICK b: Apr 28, 1834 in Hesse Darmsadt, Germany d: Sep 28, 1874 Age at death: 40 ........... 3 Daniel Harvey BARNHART b: Aug 07, 1862 in State Line, Franklin Co. PA d: Dec 09, 1898 Age at death: 36 ............... +Susan Elsie REYMER/RAYMER Oct 21, 1869 in Franklin County, PA m: Feb 14, 1892 in Reformed Church, Greencastle PA d: Sep 27, 1965 in Leader Nursing Center - Camp Hill PA Age at death: 95 Thanks in advance for any info. John L. Raymer

Hey, I was born and grew up in Franklin County, but now I'm a West Virginian and proud of it! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Yeager" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Franklin County Cemetery Lookup > Dear Nance: > Any and All Questions are Welcome to ALL the Group ! I know of no-one that > has one last name to research except maybe : I hear West Virginia Jokes > about it all the time ! > Glenn E. Yeager > Genealogist > > > > > >From: "gordon crooks" <[email protected]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: <[email protected]> > >Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Franklin County Cemetery Lookup > >Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 13:15:53 -0400 > > > >Nance: You should direct a msg. to Joe Barnhart asa he does that family. > > > > Gordon > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Nance" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:44 AM > >Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Franklin County Cemetery Lookup > > > > > > > Looking for Johann George Barnhart b 1797 Fannett, Franklin Co > > > probably died before 1850 > > > also for his son Wilhelm Michael...no dates > > > Many thanks in advance > > > > > > > > > Best Regard, > > > Nance > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small > > > Business. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Find a local pizza place, music store, museum and more.then map the best > route! http://local.live.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Descendants of Daniel Barnhart 1 Daniel BARNHART . +Mary BARRICK .. 2 John Jacob BARNHART b: March 26, 1860 in Greencastle, Franklin Co., PA (appears in 1900 Byron Twp., Ogle Co., IL census) d: November 08, 1939 in Byron, Ogle Co., IL Burial: Silver Creek Cemetery, Mt. Morris Twp., Ogle Co., IL ...... +Amanda Elizabeth BAKENER b: August 1866 in PA m: January 10, 1884 in Ogle Co., IL d: May 12, 1938 in Ogle Co., IL Burial: Silver Creek Cemetery, Mt. Morris Twp., Ogle Co., IL Father: Frederick Bakener Mother: Catharine (Waggaman) Waggoner ...... 3 Earle BARNHART ...... 3 Iva BARNHART .......... +Milo GARMAN b: January 23, 1902 in Brookville Twp., Ogle Co., IL m: Bef. 1924 d: September 06, 1981 Burial: Fairmount Cemetery, Polo, Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL Father: Cyrus Daniel Garman Mother: Rebecca Jane Rubendall ...... *2nd Husband of Iva BARNHART: .......... +Lee WESTERMAN b: November 27, 1906 in Leaf River, Ogle Co., IL m: Bef. 1972 d: June 1977 in Leaf River, Ogle Co., IL Father: Jurren "George" Westerman Mother: Esther Boomgarden ...... 3 Vena M. BARNHART b: October 10, 1905 in Byron, Ogle Co., IL d: March 20, 1972 in Oregon, Ogle Co., IL Burial: Daysville Cemetery, Nashua Twp., Ogle Co., IL .......... +John G. COLSON b: 1900 m: December 22, 1926 in Oregon, Ogle Co., IL d: 1965 Burial: Daysville Cemetery, Nashua Twp., Ogle Co., IL Father: George Emil Colson Mother: Ellen Hoar ...... 3 Minnie M. BARNHART b: April 1885 d: 1959 Burial: Byron Cemetery, Byron, Ogle Co., IL .......... +Silas B. HEDGES b: 1882 d: 1939 Burial: Byron Cemetery, Byron, Ogle Co., IL ...... 3 Mertie Viola BARNHART b: July 23, 1889 d: 1894 Burial: Silver Creek Cemetery, Mt. Morris Twp., Ogle Co., IL ...... 3 Nellie BARNHART b: August 1891 .......... +Melvin A. MARGET b: January 1886 d: 1962 Burial: Byron Cemetery, Byron, Ogle Co., IL Father: Angelo Marget Mother: Lura ? Roger Cramer Peoria, Arizona Roger and Sue Cramer's Genealogy Site http://members.aol.com/rogercubs/index.html Ogle Co., IL Genealogy Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle/

One further clarification - copyright was not my point. You aren't looking for the copyright info. You are looking for an ISBN#. Copyright was only mentioned as a guide on to where to find the ISBN #, if there were one. The ISBN# in modern books is always listed on the same page as the copyright information. But - you don't need the copyright information to search the library catalogs. You can use any of the following: the ISBN#, the author, the title, or a keyword from the title or the subject. Sorry if I confused everyone. Tink At 01:29 PM 9/19/06, you wrote: >I have searched the book inside out , there is no copyright . From >the letters written about the church from many pastors in the area , >the closest date I can get is 1984 . The book is a soft cover and on >the back it says 200th Jubilee of 200 years of American Methodism . > There are many names of those who designated gifts to the church > in 1984 among them is a Mr and Mrs Merle H Bingaman , Dr and Mrs > Richard McClarren , some other surnames ; Lowans , Pheil, Garnes , > Beard , Grove , Chamberlain , Hawbaker , Hege , Shoop, Gossert, > some of these families were married into my Beck family . > There is a list of Pastors starting in 1818 with J.Caleb Reynolds > and ending with 1980 to present ( I guess 1984 ? ) James A. Diles > I would think that the church would have a copy , and the local > Library too , but not sure what they would list it as ? > > >Kathy > > > > >--------------------------------- >Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oops - I didn't realize it was such an old book. Sorry. My technique for that is to log into the "Used & Out of Print" section of the Barnes and Noble website (www.barnesandnoble.com) and search on the name of the author and see if it comes up. Oftentimes book resellers obtain old books for their invventory. Once it gets logged into the bookseller's MIS system, it is assigned an ISBN, regardless when it was published. Then I use that number on Google in search of library catalogs that have it. I have been successful more often than not in finding an ISBN #. If I don't know the author, I search on keywords from the title. Booksellers often make mistakes or abbreviate titles, so using a keyword search seems to be more effective. The local library computer system will have access to all the online library catalogues in the country and they will be more than happy to help you learn how to search it and request an inter-library loan. Good luck! Tink At 01:29 PM 9/19/06, you wrote: >I have searched the book inside out , there is no copyright . From >the letters written about the church from many pastors in the area , >the closest date I can get is 1984 . The book is a soft cover and on >the back it says 200th Jubilee of 200 years of American Methodism . > There are many names of those who designated gifts to the church > in 1984 among them is a Mr and Mrs Merle H Bingaman , Dr and Mrs > Richard McClarren , some other surnames ; Lowans , Pheil, Garnes , > Beard , Grove , Chamberlain , Hawbaker , Hege , Shoop, Gossert, > some of these families were married into my Beck family . > There is a list of Pastors starting in 1818 with J.Caleb Reynolds > and ending with 1980 to present ( I guess 1984 ? ) James A. Diles > I would think that the church would have a copy , and the local > Library too , but not sure what they would list it as ? > > >Kathy > > > > >--------------------------------- >Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Fellow Listers: Since we're on a roll with the surname BARNHART..... My 3rd-great-grandfather was named Peter Barnhart TAYLOR and he died in Lack Twp., Juniata Co. in 1895 and was to have been born in July 1810 in Amberson Valley, Franklin Co.. The first time I find him on the Tax Lists was in 1840 and he was in Fannett Twp., Franklin Co.. My questions..... 1. Does anyone know who his parents are? 2. Was his mother's maiden name BARNHART??? 3. Was there a doctor or a church official/pastor by the last name of BARNHART in the area when Peter was born - that Peter's parents would have named him after??????? Donna Heller Zinn of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA.

I have searched the book inside out , there is no copyright . From the letters written about the church from many pastors in the area , the closest date I can get is 1984 . The book is a soft cover and on the back it says 200th Jubilee of 200 years of American Methodism . There are many names of those who designated gifts to the church in 1984 among them is a Mr and Mrs Merle H Bingaman , Dr and Mrs Richard McClarren , some other surnames ; Lowans , Pheil, Garnes , Beard , Grove , Chamberlain , Hawbaker , Hege , Shoop, Gossert, some of these families were married into my Beck family . There is a list of Pastors starting in 1818 with J.Caleb Reynolds and ending with 1980 to present ( I guess 1984 ? ) James A. Diles I would think that the church would have a copy , and the local Library too , but not sure what they would list it as ? Kathy --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.

Nance: You should direct a msg. to Joe Barnhart asa he does that family. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nance" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Franklin County Cemetery Lookup > Looking for Johann George Barnhart b 1797 Fannett, Franklin Co > probably died before 1850 > also for his son Wilhelm Michael...no dates > Many thanks in advance > > > Best Regard, > Nance > > --------------------------------- > Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small > Business. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Dear Gordon Thanks for the lead on Barnhart. I will look for Joe Best Regard, Nance --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.

Kathy, Thank you, Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "KATHY" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Methodism in Mercersburg 1807-1984 > Hi Ruth, > The book was a gift , so I have no idea where it is available , if I find out I will let you know . > > > Kathy > > > > > --------------------------------- > Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Dee: Sorry ! I found no LEMISON's on the CD . As any good sweepstakes says "Sorry ! Try Again !" If You need anything else , Let Me know ! Glenn E. Yeager Genealogist >From: Dee <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [PAFRANKL] Franklin County Cemetery Lookup >Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 21:43:09 -0400 > >Hi, > >Can the person with the Franklin County cemetery index look for a Thomas >Lemison. Don't have a death date, but he was born c. 1930 and lived in >Greencastle. >Wife, Sarah. > >Thank you. > >Dee Kugler > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Search—Your way, your world, right now! http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/searchlaunch/?locale=en-us&FORM=WLMTAG