How much does Jim charge for copies of specific burials. I've found some names in there of interest. Bonz -----Original Message----- From: pafrankl-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pafrankl-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of FamilyHart Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:56 PM To: pafrankl@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAFRANKL] Franklin County Burial Index We have just uploaded Jim Houpt's index of the 31 volumes of Franklin County Burial Records. This can be seen at: http://midatlantic.rootsweb.ancestry.com/familyhart/documents/JimHouptIndice s/ Thanks! Don & Jeanine Hartman FamilyHart http://familyhart.info

We have just uploaded Jim Houpt's index of the 31 volumes of Franklin County Burial Records. This can be seen at: http://midatlantic.rootsweb.ancestry.com/familyhart/documents/JimHouptIndices/ Thanks! Don & Jeanine Hartman FamilyHart http://familyhart.info Rotsweb List Admins for: Pennsylvania, PADutchGenONLY, Penna-Dutch, PAYork, PA-York-Gen, MD-Fred-Gen, MDWashin, Burket, Dierdorff, Gotshall, Glattfelder, Hartman, Kohr, Kaufman, Shirk, Sturm USGENWEB CCs for: Adams Co., PA; Franklin Co., PA: Lancaster Co., PA; York Co., PA; Frederick Co., MD; Washington Co., MD Any genealogical information sent to FamilyHart grants permission to use that information for any genealogical purposes by FamilyHart.

Please be advised that the url for our Online Pennsylvania Dutch Database has changed to: http://familyhart.info Thanks! Don & Jeanine Hartman FamilyHart http://familyhart.info Rotsweb List Admins for: Pennsylvania, PADutchGenONLY, Penna-Dutch, PAYork, PA-York-Gen, MD-Fred-Gen, MDWashin, Burket, Dierdorff, Gotshall, Glattfelder, Hartman, Kohr, Kaufman, Shirk, Sturm USGENWEB CCs for: Adams Co., PA; Franklin Co., PA: Lancaster Co., PA; York Co., PA; Frederick Co., MD; Washington Co., MD Any genealogical information sent to FamilyHart grants permission to use that information for any genealogical purposes by FamilyHart.

Hi Bonnie, is there a good time to chat with you about Antrim? Shelley

Hello everyone, I am trying to fill in some of the obits for deceased members in the CARR genealogy of Franklin County. At present I am wondering if anyone can locate the obits for these 2 gentlemen? 1.. Edwin H. Hays, b. 31 July 1950, d. 13 June 1994; last residence Chambersburg, PA 2.. Gregory Straley, b. 29 July 1952, d. 25 Dec. 2002; either Chambersburg or Waynesboro, PA I thank you in advance for any help that you can send my way. Pat Smith in Tioga County PA

I wonder whether Samuel Derr had brothers Elias, Christian Jr., and Henry? Did they also live in Berks and Union Co., PA? Sons of Christian Derr?  Margie

We updated our online database today adding over 5,000 new names bringing our online total to over 589,000 names. Many are from Washington, Franklin, and Frederick counties. Please drop by and see what we have at: http://familyhart.info Thanks! Don & Jeanine Hartman FamilyHart http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/familyhart/ Rootsweb List Admins for: Pennsylvania, PADutchGenONLY, Penna-Dutch, PAYork, PA-York-Gen, MD-Fred-Gen, MDWashin, Burket, Dierdorff, Gotshall, Glattfelder, Hartman, Kohr, Kaufman, Sturm USGENWEB CCs for: Adams Co., PA; Franklin Co., PA: Lancaster Co., PA; York Co., PA; Frederick Co., MD; Washington Co., MD Any genealogical information sent to FamilyHart grants permission to use that information for any genealogical purposes by FamilyHart.

Descendants of Samuel Derr 1 Samuel DERR b: Abt. 1823 in PA (appears in 1860 Clear Spring District, Washington Co., MD, 1870 Antrim Twp., Franklin Co., PA and 1880 Leaf River Twp., Ogle Co., IL census) . +Nancy WOLFF b: Abt. 1827 in PA m: February 01, 1848 d: November 13, 1884 Burial: Cedar Hill (Salem) Cemetery, Pine Creek Twp., Ogle Co., IL . 2 Jeremiah DERR b: Abt. 1848 in PA . 2 Priscilla DERR b: Abt. 1853 in PA . 2 Matilda DERR b: Abt. 1856 in PA . 2 Mary Ellen "Mollie" DERR b: December 01, 1859 in Greencastle, Franklin Co., PA d: January 02, 1927 in Mt. Morris, Ogle Co., IL Burial: Oakwood Cemetery, Mt. Morris, Ogle Co., IL ..... +William J. H. ROUTZAHN b: April 01, 1853 in Baltimore, MD m: June 23, 1877 in Mt. Morris, Ogle Co., IL d: July 14, 1885 in Oregon, Ogle Co., IL (struck by lightning) Father: John Abraham Routzahn Mother: Catherine M. Harbaugh ..... 3 Mabel K. ROUTZAHN ......... +Jackson MCCOY m: April 12, 1899 in Ogle Co., IL . *2nd Husband of Mary Ellen "Mollie" DERR: ..... +John E. WITHERS b: April 18, 1847 in Blair Co., PA (came to Mt. Morris, Ogle Co., IL in about 1851 with his parents, appears in 1870, 1900 and 1920 Mt. Morris Twp., Ogle Co., IL census) m: July 26, 1888 in Oregon, Ogle Co., IL d: September 16, 1928 in Oregon, Ogle Co., IL Burial: Oakwood Cemetery, Mt. Morris, Ogle Co., IL Father: Thomas W. Withers Mother: Mary Elizabeth Bullinger Military service: Civil War, Co. D, 4th IL Calvary ..... 3 Eva Lena WITHERS b: December 1888 in Ogle Co., IL d: 1969 in Oregon, Ogle Co., IL Burial: Oakwood Cemetery, Mt. Morris, Ogle Co., IL ......... +Charles E. "Dick" MOORE b: September 1884 in IL (appears in 1910, 1920, and 1930 Oregon, Ogle Co., IL census) Father: John Dunn Moore Mother: Susan Ann Hill ......... 4 Helen M. MOORE b: Abt. 1908 in IL ......... 4 John Kenneth MOORE b: Abt. 1909 in IL ......... 4 Eunice MOORE b: Abt. 1910 in Oregon Twp., Ogle Co., IL ......... 4 Eugene Charles MOORE b: 1913 in Oregon Twp., Ogle Co., IL d: January 26, 1985 Burial: Oakwood Cemetery, Mt. Morris, Ogle Co., IL ............. +Neva Mildred NEWMAN b: March 20, 1915 in Chanute, Neosho Co., KS m: October 17, 1969 in Sycamore, IL d: December 22, 2002 in Dixon, Lee Co., IL Father: Herman S. Newman Mother: Ella May Niman ..... 3 Carl WITHERS b: April 29, 1891 in IL (appears in 1930 Mt. Morris Village, Mt. Morris Twp., Ogle Co., IL census) d: May 1965 ......... +Mary Ellen REILLY b: July 12, 1893 in Ogle Co., IL d: December 1974 in Rockford, Winnebago Co., IL Burial: Riverview Cemetery, Oregon, Ogle Co., IL Father: James Thomas Reilly Mother: Lena Irene Spratler . 2 Fannie DERR b: Abt. 1861 in Washington Co., MD ..... +Elmer Ellsworth MULLEN b: Abt. 1861 in Mt. Morris, Ogle Co., IL (living in Humboldt, IA in 1946) m: September 18, 1881 in Adeline, Maryland Twp., Ogle Co., IL Father: William Henry Mullen Mother: Elizabeth Bomberger . 2 Samuel Charles DERR b: September 1866 in MD (appears in 1900 Silver Creek Twp., Stephenson Co., IL census) ..... +Alginette "Nettie" FOUKE b: August 1869 in IL m: September 08, 1888 in Ogle Co., IL Father: William James Fouke Mother: Sarah Ann "Sallie" Sheets ..... 3 Carl DERR b: April 1889 in IL ..... 3 Ruth DERR b: December 1892 in IL ..... 3 Earl DERR b: February 1898 in IL Roger Cramer Peoria, Arizona Roger and Sue Cramer's Genealogy Site http://members.cox.net/rogercubs/index.html Ogle Co., IL Genealogy Site http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ilogle/ **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)

Gordon: When and from where did the Crunkletons come from to Franklin Co.?? I've seen them listed among several people I've been researching and living nearby in census records. Richard -----Original Message----- From: pafrankl-request@rootsweb.com To: pafrankl@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 3:00 am Subject: PAFRANKL Digest, Vol 4, Issue 40 Today's Topics: 1. Crooks & Crunkleton (Gordon Crooks) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 11:06:30 -0400 From: "Gordon Crooks" <gordoncrooks@worldnet.att.net> Subject: [PAFRANKL] Crooks & Crunkleton To: <PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <67E3F8BEE19A4147882A2981127C8071@GCrooks> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am reviseing and adding additional material to both of the two books which I wrote years ago, The Crooks families of Western Pennstlvania and The Crunkleton Family. I will accept any material offered for either one and also will accept orders for either one.This will be the last printing of both of them. Anyone interested contact me ASAP. Gordon Crooks ------------------------------ To contact the PAFRANKL list administrator, send an email to PAFRANKL-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PAFRANKL mailing list, send an email to PAFRANKL@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of PAFRANKL Digest, Vol 4, Issue 40 ***************************************

I am reviseing and adding additional material to both of the two books which I wrote years ago, The Crooks families of Western Pennstlvania and The Crunkleton Family. I will accept any material offered for either one and also will accept orders for either one.This will be the last printing of both of them. Anyone interested contact me ASAP. Gordon Crooks

I am looking for the name of the owner of the farm at the intersection of Harbaugh Church Road and the Rouzerville - Ringgold road. The large two story house and large barns faces Harbaugh Church Road about 300 feet east of PA Rt 2007 or MD Rt 418. In the corn field across from this house is the 96 mile marker of the Mason-Dixon survey. The diary of Charles Mason in his recording of the Mason-Dixon survey lists Staphel Shockey's house as located 7 chains north of this which would place it behind the house described above. Staphel was the nickname for my 5th great grandfather, John Christopher Shockey, who owned the 3rd Resurvey of Sarah's Delight in the 1750s and 1760s. Some of the descendants of his son Jacob still live on a portion of the 1820 acres but do not know who owns the farm in question. Information can be sent to me directly at LesShockey@wildblue.net Thanks for any leads, Les

What great information!! I plan on getting involved and making myself heard. Pennsylvania isn't the only state that makes it difficult and expensive to find vital records (New York, for example), but perhaps other states will follow suit when they see the support of others, especially from people like me who live out-of-state. Thanks for sharing! Linda Johnson, Virginia ---- BonnieM <blmalmat@bellsouth.net> wrote: Fellow genealogists, I don't think this is a repeat and forgive me if it is, but as genealogists, we should all be on board with this. It's a real pain in the butt not having even an index and it's too expensive at $34 for a several years search to "fish." There was an article online addressing this in a Lebanon newspaper: http://www.ldnews.com/ci_11977028?source=most_emailed The website in question offers sample letters. How 'bout we all send in letters? Even out-of-towners can do this, not just those who are currently living in Pennsylvania. http://users.rcn.com/timarg/PaHR-Access Bonz ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Fellow genealogists, I don't think this is a repeat and forgive me if it is, but as genealogists, we should all be on board with this. It's a real pain in the butt not having even an index and it's too expensive at $34 for a several years search to "fish." There was an article online addressing this in a Lebanon newspaper: http://www.ldnews.com/ci_11977028?source=most_emailed The website in question offers sample letters. How 'bout we all send in letters? Even out-of-towners can do this, not just those who are currently living in Pennsylvania. http://users.rcn.com/timarg/PaHR-Access Bonz

The website is up if anyone is interested and you can register online, no cost, just bring your own bag lunch. Dr. Scot French from UVA is the guest speaker. http://www.charlottesville-fhc.org Saturday March 28, 9-4pm, Charlottesville Shelley

Descendants of Henry Strock 1 Henry STROCK b: March 27, 1771 d: 1846 in PA . 2 Jacob STROCK b: July 09, 1806 in Guilford Twp., Franklin Co., PA (came to Ogle Co. in 1854, appears in 1860 Town of Buffalo, Buffalo Twp., 1870 and 1880 Eagle Point Twp., Ogle Co., IL census) d: November 18, 1882 in Ogle Co., IL Burial: Fairmount Cemetery, Polo, Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL ..... +Catharine LONGNECKER b: 1810 in So. Woodbury, Bedford Co., PA d: 1894 in Ogle Co., IL Burial: Fairmount Cemetery, Polo, Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL ..... 3 Sabina STROCK b: July 22, 1836 in Bedford Co., PA d: November 18, 1923 in Polo, Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL Burial: Fairmount Cemetery, Polo, Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL ......... +George POOLE b: January 31, 1835 in near York Co., Toronto, Canada (appears in 1870 Eagle Point Twp. and 1900 Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL census) m: October 11, 1860 d: September 18, 1911 in Polo, Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL Burial: Fairmount Cemetery, Polo, Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL Father: William Poole Mother: Nancy Johnson ......... 4 Frank POOLE b: July 16, 1861 in Ogle Co., IL (appears in 1900 and 1930 Eagle Point Twp., Ogle Co., IL census) d: November 18, 1950 in Ogle Co., IL Burial: Elkhorn Brick Church Cemetery, Eagle Point Twp., Ogle Co., IL ............. +Annie Mina GEARY b: September 26, 1868 in PA m: November 04, 1890 in Ogle Co., IL d: February 04, 1943 in Ogle Co., IL Burial: Elkhorn Brick Church Cemetery, Eagle Point Twp., Ogle Co., IL Father: George Carlton Geary Mother: Camilla M. Smith ............ 5 Ina Agnes POOLE b: April 18, 1892 in IL d: July 07, 1950 Burial: Elkhorn Brick Church Cemetery, Eagle Point Twp., Ogle Co., IL ............ 5 Camilla POOLE b: September 12, 1897 in IL ................ +George A. JONES b: Abt. 1893 in England (appears in 1930 Eagle Point Twp., Ogle Co., IL census) ............ 5 Irene G. POOLE b: February 07, 1900 in IL ............ 5 George Clinton POOLE b: September 07, 1903 in IL ................ +Marian CARL ............ 5 Marguerite POOLE b: March 07, 1907 in IL ............ 5 Russell Geary POOLE b: January 03, 1910 in IL ................ +Avis GATZ b: 1912 in IL m: April 25, 1943 in Ogle Co., IL Father: George Gatz Mother: Olive E. ? ......... 4 Nellie POOLE b: September 21, 1864 in IL d: January 31, 1963 Burial: Fairmount Cemetery, Polo, Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL ......... 4 John H. POOLE b: February 19, 1873 in IL ..... 3 Henry L. STROCK b: 1838 in PA d: 1923 Burial: Fairmount Cemetery, Polo, Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL ..... 3 John STROCK b: August 27, 1839 in South Woodbury, Bedford Co., PA (appears in 1880 Eagle Point Twp. and 1900 Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL census) d: October 17, 1921 in Polo, Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL Burial: Fairmount Cemetery, Polo, Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL ......... +Alevia ? b: May 1849 in NY d: August 29, 1931 in Polo, Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL Burial: Fairmount Cemetery, Polo, Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL ..... 3 David STROCK b: October 23, 1840 in PA d: September 02, 1916 Burial: Fairmount Cemetery, Polo, Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL Military service: Civil War, Co. E, 92nd IL Mounted Infantry ..... 3 Susan L. STROCK b: 1843 in PA d: 1912 Burial: Fairmount Cemetery, Polo, Buffalo Twp., Ogle Co., IL ..... 3 Nancy C. STROCK b: Abt. 1845 in PA ......... +David M. PRICE b: Abt. 1840 in Ogle Co., IL m: May 25, 1882 in Ogle Co., IL d: April 09, 1885 Father: John Price Mother: Christiana Friedly ......... 4 Bessie PRICE b: April 13, 1884 d: January 13, 1909 ............. +Grant LORRAINE ..... 3 Abraham T. STROCK b: Abt. 1848 in PA Military service: Civil War, 7th IL Calvalry ..... 3 Lizzie (Libbie) STROCK b: Abt. 1851 in PA ..... 3 Jacob E. STROCK b: October 1852 in PA (appears in 1880 Eagle Point Twp. and 1900 Mt. Morris Twp., Ogle Co., IL census) ......... +Sarah MCCOSH b: December 1857 in PA m: February 18, 1880 in Mt. Morris, Ogle Co., IL Father: John McCosh Mother: Elizabeth Snowberger ......... 4 Burton STROCK b: December 1880 in IL ......... 4 Mildred STROCK b: November 1882 in IL ......... 4 Wanda STROCK b: November 1887 in IL ......... 4 Kallie STROCK b: September 1889 in IL ......... 4 Annie STROCK b: November 1895 in IL ......... 4 Kale STROCK b: November 1897 in IL Roger Cramer Peoria, Arizona Roger and Sue Cramer's Genealogy Site http://members.cox.net/rogercubs/index.html Ogle Co., IL Genealogy Site http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ilogle/ **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)

A number of years ago I visited Franklin Co. and photographed the graves of Frederick Byer, his wife, and daughter (Elizabeth) in the Hoke/Byer cemtery. The gravestones are not in great shape and difficult to read, but I wonder if 1) any church or cemetery records exist that might state what the inscriptions are, or 2) if anyone in the Franklin Co. area would be willing to go to the cemetery to see if the inscriptions are at all legible firsthand. I am particularly interested in the wife's stone, as there seems to be much confusion on the internet and in many websites, as to her last name (Hochlander or Moyer). Since the daughter's name is listed as Byer, wife of Gabriel Carpenter, I had hopes that the wife's maiden name might also have been used on the stone, but unfortunately, that is the stone in the worse condition and I cannot read anything from my photograph. I would love to hear from anyone with information on this family or cemetery Thanks in advance. Irma Wilhelm please respond to _Ijwilhelm@aol.com_ (mailto:Ijwilhelm@aol.com) **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make meals for Under $10. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000002)

In the 1850 census, Hamilton Twp., are found Susan Stouffer, 50, with children Daniel, 25, Elizabeth, 22, Susan 19, and Hannah, 15.? Daniel was a miller.?? Children all born PA.? She is also found in Chambersburg in 1860 with the daughters. A review of the 1840 census of Franklin County does not reveal a likely match to this family -- only Abraham Stouffer, age 40-50 of Guilford Twp. has a close match to the childrens' gender and age combination, but I'm pretty sure his wife was Esther Lehman and he was the son of Abraham (1780 - 1857) who went to Blair, Ontario. The "Family Hart" Pennsylvania Dutch site does not have a Stouffer family that lines up with this one.? Does anyone recognize it? Thank you. Don Boyd Centerville, Ohio

Hello List, Am looking for information on James Scotts' parents, wife and children James Scott b. abt 1726 Scotland d. abt 2 Mar 1785, Montgomery Twp., Franklin Co., Pa M. Jannet b. unknown d. abt 1802 Children: Samuel Scott b. abt 1747 Thomas Scott b. abt 1748 Jennet Scott b. abt 1748, Chester County, Pa d. Jun 1814, Franklin County, Pa M. Samuel McCune (1743, Chester Cnty -1806, Cumberland Cnty) Mary Scott b. abt 1752 d. unknown M. unknown Menough (Meanor/Menaugh) Elizabeth Scott b. abt 1754 d. unknown, Moon Twp, Allegheny Co., Pa M. Isaac Meanor (1750 - 1823, Allegheny Co) William Scott b. abt 1756 Help would be greatly appreciated. Trudi

Carolyn, Thank you for posting this marriage information. Do I interpret this correctly? Castle, Thomas & Margaret Shelling Marriage License: 10 Sep 1773 Marriage: 11 Sep 1773 How can we be sure that Thomas CASTLE is Thomas CASTEEL b abt 1753? Priscilla On Mar 2, 2009, at 12:35 PM, Carolyn Shearer wrote: > MARRIAGE RECORD OF CHRIST CHURCH, PHILADELPHIA, PA. 1709-1806. > Pennsylvania Archives, Second Series, Volume 8. > Contributed for use in the USGenWeb Archives > by Donna Bluemink and Joe Patterson. > USGENWEB ARCHIVES NOTICE: These electronic pages may NOT > be reproduced in any format for profit or presentation > by any other organization or persons. Persons or > organizations desiring to use this material, must obtain > the written consent of the contributor, or the legal > representative of the submitter, and contact the listed > USGenWeb archivist with proof of this consent. The > submitter has given permission to the USGenWeb Archives > to store the file permanently for free access. > > http://www.usgwarchives.net/pa/pafiles.htm > NOTE: An html version of this volume may be found at > http://www.usgwarchives.net/pa/1pa/paarchivesseries/series2/vol8/paarch2-8to > c.html > ____________________________________________________________________________ > > RECORD OF PENNSYLVANIA MARRIAGES, > > PRIOR TO 1810. > > Volume I. > > Clarence M. Busch. > > State Printer of Pennsylvania. > > 1895. > > Pennsylvania Archives, Second Series, Volume 8. > > [Page numbers are in brackets.] > > MARRIAGE RECORD OF CHRIST CHURCH, PHILADELPHIA. > > 1709-1806. > > [The Record of Marriages for the years 1723-4-5 are lost.] > > [pg 240] 1773, Sept. 11, Shelling, Margaret, and Thomas Castle. > >

Shelly, As far as the death record goes, much of that is given by a family member. Maybe they couldn't remember Chambersburg and said Shippensburg by mistake!! This practice still goes on today. When my father-in-law died (2001) I was there when they were filling out the paperwork. When they asked questions about where he was born, and his mothers maiden name, Everyone turned and looked at me!! I gave those answers to the best of my knowledge, but I was really surprised. Beth Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: Shelley To: badrenn@embarqmail.com ; PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Question and discussion Regarding the Shippensburg-James B. Davis died in Michigan 1867, it was on his death record that he was born in Shippensburg FR PA. I am not sure why they lived in Antrim and he is born in Shippensburg, unless they were visiting family, I heard there were two Davis family there, but not sure they are connected yet. William Davis ' father would be white or his grandfather is white. Thanks Remember Today's SOLDIER is Tomorrow's VETERAN Know your Roots, They are Long and Strong -----Original Message----- From: Beth Ann Deardorff <badrenn@embarqmail.com> To: PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com; Shelley <keli1@aol.com> Sent: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 8:47 pm Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Question and discussion Shelley, I think you're so lucky to have a baptism record. What church was that taken from? That would give you a clue as to what church they went to. To answer number one, I don't think there are any records for the county that early. The baptism record usually will do for a birth record. As for your other questions, unless you can find other church records, you may not be able to figure out the birth dates. Where did you find that James was born in Shippensburg? On what document, I mean.... Just kind of thinking out loud, so to speak. Also, what was William's occupation? That may have something to do with the moving all around. Do you know where this family went? Can you find cemetery records (that will give you birth dates, sometimes) Otterbein was a United Brethren minister. The United Brethren and Methodist are now combined, but back then weren't too far from each other. United Brethren is different then the Brethren Church you are thinking of. I don't think that they would have been a part of that Brethren, as some of those Brethren are considered "Plain People". Beth Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelley" <keli1@aol.com> To: <PAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:32 PM Subject: [PAFRANKL] Question and discussion | | Hi Franklin County researchers. I have a couple of questions to pose to help understand some information I have. I would appreciate any input or suggestions that you share. I am hitting a brick wall. I know there are other Davis families in Franklin Co, | | My great great grandfather William Davis (b. abt. 1814) lived in Antrim, so noted on the 1843 Tax List and 1850 census. I have not verified that he was living there prior to 1843, but would assume based on other information, such as a birth of a child. He sold his property in 1858 and the family left the area. William and his wife Mildred had a son born in 11838/39 in Chambersburg (Joseph Brand Davis), a second son born in Shippensburg in 1849/50, and the rest have not been verified but assumed to also be born somewhere in Franklin County, with daughter Susan being born in 1855, son William Otterbein Davis being born in 1857. This family is documented as mulatto, William is assumed to be? the child or grandchild of a white and black slave. | | 1. any records available to verify Joseph B. Davis's birth in Chambersburg (info was taken from baptism record)? | 2. if living in Antrim, why would James be born in Shippensburg (birth listed as Franklin County Pa on death record)? | 3. any reocrds avaible to verify Susan and William O's birth's.? Otterbein is the name of the founder of the Brethern church. maybe they went to that church, not sure. | | Thanks, Shelley | ? | | | | | | ?Remember Today's SOLDIER is Tomorrow's VETERAN | Know your Roots, They are Long and Strong | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!