Hi Charlene: Thank you so much for replying to my request and giving me some clues to work on. Jamon and Mary Ann BEEMAN did sell 50 acres in 1838 and the witnesses were Jason ANDRUSS and Serval FISHER. Serval Fisher is a Justice of the Peace. I have never traced out these witnesses and I will try to do that. I have long tried to find when Jamon Beeman bought this land, but have never been able to find it. I thought that he might have purchased it from the Holland Land Company, but apparently there are no records. The Bureau of Archives and History in Harrisburg, PA sold me a warrantee township tract map for Elk Township, Warren County. Tract #5547 was shown as last purchase of 1784, Warrant #116 dated March 18, 1794 to John DORSEY for 1000 acres on Conewango Creek in Allegheny, now Warren County. Surveyed August 10, 1795 for 1000 acres. Patented to Joseph CLARK on August 14, 1816. The Deed Index for Warren County begins in 1819 and there was no deed to Jamon BEEMAN for his 50 acres in Tract #5547. This Tract #5547 was right on the New York line with Allegany County, but I guess this Warrant is saying that early records would be in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania. Has anyone on the list tried researching early deed records for Warren County in Allegheny County before 1819? The Handy Books says that Warren County was formed in 1800. Does anyone know if there is an earlier deed book for Warren County from 1800 to 1819? Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: Charlene Pinkowski [mailto:charpink@gte.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 4:42 PM To: Gwen Boyer Bjorkman Subject: Re: Jonathan Marsh, 1830, Warren Co. PA Gwen I recently read that there could be hints as to the maiden name of a woman when her husband buys land from her father as part of the dowry settlement. The deed will often have names of parties who have interest for both the husband and the wife. The first witness is usually for the husband and the second for the wife. Frequently the witness for the wife is a close family member. I have just such a problem in my lineage, although I know the surname of my 3 ggmother. However, I do not know the names of her parents. Nevertheless, her husband bought land in 1807 from a James and Nancy GAMBLE [Betsey GAMBLE is the 3gg mother]. Since I just learned about this witness thing, I have to go back and look at the court copy of the deed for the witnesses, as I did not record that information the first time around. The reason I am writing you, is perhaps you can find the earliest deed relative to the marriage of your Mary Ann, and see whether or not the information found therein fits your theories. Charlene Calvert Pinkowski charpink@gte.net -----Original Message----- From: Gwen Boyer Bjorkman <gwenbj@seanet.com> To: PAFOREST-L@rootsweb.com <PAFOREST-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 6:01 PM Subject: Jonathan Marsh, 1830, Warren Co. PA >This is my biggest genealogical problem. > >WHAT IS THE MAIDEN NAME OF MARY ANN?? > >Since Mary Ann says on the 1880 census that she was b. in PA about 1813 and >her parents in N.J. , I believe she may have been living in Warren Co. when >she m. Jamon Beeman in 1831. I checked all families in the 1830 census who >lived in Kinzua or Elk Townships (Warren Co.) and traced them to their >roots. Then I traced the ones from N.J. and eliminated all but JONATHAN >MARSH. (This eliminated Sylvanus Marsh, Stephen Hadley and Jonathan Pound). >I believe Jonathan Marsh may be her father. They did not have any info on >his family in the Warren Hist. Soc. I believe that I have checked all >histories of McKean and Warren, all census, all deeds, but not all wills. I >have corresponded with the Warren Co. Historical Society and have bought >their publications, but I have not corresponded with the McKean Co. >Historical Society and maybe they have something to help. Also corresponded >with cousin Donald Beeman of Lewis Run, PA in 1971 when I wrote my Beeman >book. > >The Marshes are a Quaker family and since Sarah Beeman Anderson (dau of >Jamon and Mary Ann Beeman) said in the article in THE GENEALOGICAL AND >PERSONAL HISTORY OF NORTHERN PENNSYLVANIA that she and her brother were born >at Quaker Hill Warren Co., I believe that they may be Quakers. QUESTION: >WHERE WOULD THE QUAKERS FROM N.J. HAVE LEFT THEIR RECORDS WHEN THEY CAME TO >WARREN COUNTY ABOUT 1813 WHEN MARY ANN WAS BORN? I have not found any >records of a Meeting in Warren Co. HISTORY OF N.W. PA says p.638 that John >and Hugh Marsh were first settlers about 1795 in Warren Co. History of >McKean Co. p.280 says that Jonathan Marsh was one of the persons to lay out >the road through the center of McKean Co. in 1838. Jonathan Marsh is on the >1850 census in Lafayette twp, McKean Co. close to Rufus Beeman, father of >Jamon Beeman. > >The Andersons were prominent and I do have a copy of Sarah Beeman Anderson's >obituary and write-ups from local histories, none of which mention her >mother. Since her biographies say that either she or her husband (Sarah or >Abraham Anderson) belonged to the Masonic Lodge, Equitable Aid Union, Union >Lodge No. 334 and the Methodist Episcopal Church, in Bradford, and all >before her death in 1917, I had thought of checking with those organizations >to see if anywhere there might be a record of her mother's name with some >membership application. QUESTION: WHERE COULD THOSE RECORDS BE FOUND? > >Hope I have described the problem or let me know if you need any other >information. I would love to hear from anyone with some clues that might >provide a solution. > >Gwen Boyer Bjorkman >gwenbj@seanet.com > > >