Does anyone know after which Brown family that Brown Hill was named... and when it received this name? Jane thaia@goodnet.com

Is Lorenzo a surname? We have a few of those... I've always wondered where the name came from. I know Avery is a surname, and some of the Averys settled in Rensselaer County, NY. I think all of these surnames started out in the New London area of CT, and moved elsewhere. You might look for the Avery in the books: The Groton Avery Clan - huge two volume set of Avery genealogy. > -----Original Message----- > From: Dee Davidson [mailto:jcricket@cecomet.net] > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 1999 10:47 AM > To: PAFOREST-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Lorenzo BROWN, Warren Co PA, 1840-50-60 > > > Hello > I found a Lorenzo BROWN buried in Bear Lake Cemetery, he shows in Census > for Sugar Grove Twp. Warren Co 1840 > and Columbus Twp, for 1850-60 Census in Warren Co also > Does anyone have a clue where he came from? or anything about him? > > I am really not having one bit of luck with my own Gramma, no one living > remembers her. She had no info in her obit, My father never spoke of > her, But she may have had a sister Cora BROWN who married BORST then > widowed married to Ola's Husband PRATT, Cora Brown BORST had several > Borst children in Brocton area Chautauqua Co NY. There is some tie here > I just have not been able to find. > > Olas Brother was Avery "SANDY" Brown born ca 1890, died gunshot, > 1939, buried Sherman Valley, Chaut. Co. Married to Iva DIMICK, Iva died > 1971 is buried alsoSherman Valley. they had sons Lawrence , Durwood, > Leonard, and others I do not know. > , and another Orlando BROWN,died ca 1957, married to Jesse EARL, died > 1965 Ripley both buried Northeast ERIE Co. PA. > They had sons Clifford and Clyde O. probably others. > > Ola Brown born ca 1892, died 1934 buried Ripley..Her marriage (Ripley > NY) Cert. states she was born in Columbus Twp,Warren Co PA. > sister of Avery and Orlando, she married to Frederick Richard PRATT, age > 16, March 15, 1908, Ripley. Witnesses were Orlando Brown and Mrs. > Elizabeth NEFF Pratt mother of the Groom, Mother of the bride was > Martha ROBINSON Brown.. > > We are wondering if there is a connection to the Samuel Brown early > settler to Chautauqua. > there are 820 Samuel Brown in the Census of NY 1790-1870 > > there are 3 Samuels in 1830 Chautauqua > 5 in 1840 > 5 in 1850 and > 4 in 1860 > Saved the Brown for last. > > Dee > > > >

There is no STEPHEN Brown in Warren Co PA from 1820-1870 Census that I have available But HOORAY I did find one ORRIN Brown in Warren Co, COLUMBUS TWP 1860 Census, That is the Family of my BROWN, Ola , Orlando and Avery.I just stumbled onto this one. Orrin or Oren is their Father's name. I DID find a Stephen BROWN 3 references in Erie, 1830 Venango Twp, 1840 and 1850 in Conneaut Twp, Erie Co PA, One Stephen J. BROWN in BUSTI, which is the Chautauqua Co Township bordering Sugar Grove CENSUS info 1830 Busti , in 1840 Busti, 1850 Busti, Possibly your Stephem I only have head of house available For TEAL in Warren Co PA these are the only 3/ There are NO TEALL but there is a birth for Ursula in Halloway, Hastings Co., Ontario June 2, 1812, dau of Charles TEAL and Clarissa PEMBER, CENSUS Charles M. Sugar Grove PA, 1830 John, 1840, Sugar Grove, and JANE, Warren Co PA Sugar Grove, 1850, head of house, page 241 of that census Whew !! Maybe we will find them all Dee "Jane T." wrote: > Since Dee is posting BROWNs, I might as well try some new ones of mine. > > Ursula TEALL, b. 02 Jun 1812, Ontario, Canada, of the Teal Hill TEALLs, > Sugar Grove, m. Stephen BROWN ca. 1831, maybe in the Sugar Grove area > or in the Chautauqua Co., NY area. We're not sure that his first name > was Stephen. We think their children, again, b. in the Sugar Grove area > or Chautauqua Co, NY probably, were: > > i Charles M.- b. ca 1832 > ii Clara - b. ca 1835 > iii Mariah - b. ca. 1838 > iv Lorenzo A. - b. 19 Feb 1840 > v Edward b. 1842 or 1843 > > We think Stephen (?) had died by 1850 because Ursula by then had another > surname and was in Lucas Co. OH. We think her TEALL parents and siblings > left Sugar Grove for MI about 1845. > > Anyone know anything about this BROWN...where he came from, who he > belonged to, etc.? > > Jane in AZ > thaia@goodnet.com

Hello And also WHERE is BROWN Hill in Sugar Grove? That is one I have not heard of, I send my husband on deliveries to Sugar Grove and the area hills but never to Brown. Dee "Jane T." wrote: > Does anyone know after which Brown family that Brown Hill was named... > and when it received this name? > > Jane > thaia@goodnet.com

Does anyone know where I might locate a copy of a booklet given at the end of the year to students in Brown Hill School in Sugar Grove Twp. Warren Co.? I am looking for the 1915 book which has a picture of the attending students on the front and lists the names inside. Wilber Tobey was one of the students. If anyone has a copy they want to keep, I would be glad to pay for scans of the front and lists of names. Kinkos does an excellent job but don't know if they are in PA. Thanks, Jean Tobey

Hello I found a Lorenzo BROWN buried in Bear Lake Cemetery, he shows in Census for Sugar Grove Twp. Warren Co 1840 and Columbus Twp, for 1850-60 Census in Warren Co also Does anyone have a clue where he came from? or anything about him? I am really not having one bit of luck with my own Gramma, no one living remembers her. She had no info in her obit, My father never spoke of her, But she may have had a sister Cora BROWN who married BORST then widowed married to Ola's Husband PRATT, Cora Brown BORST had several Borst children in Brocton area Chautauqua Co NY. There is some tie here I just have not been able to find. Olas Brother was Avery "SANDY" Brown born ca 1890, died gunshot, 1939, buried Sherman Valley, Chaut. Co. Married to Iva DIMICK, Iva died 1971 is buried alsoSherman Valley. they had sons Lawrence , Durwood, Leonard, and others I do not know. , and another Orlando BROWN,died ca 1957, married to Jesse EARL, died 1965 Ripley both buried Northeast ERIE Co. PA. They had sons Clifford and Clyde O. probably others. Ola Brown born ca 1892, died 1934 buried Ripley..Her marriage (Ripley NY) Cert. states she was born in Columbus Twp,Warren Co PA. sister of Avery and Orlando, she married to Frederick Richard PRATT, age 16, March 15, 1908, Ripley. Witnesses were Orlando Brown and Mrs. Elizabeth NEFF Pratt mother of the Groom, Mother of the bride was Martha ROBINSON Brown.. We are wondering if there is a connection to the Samuel Brown early settler to Chautauqua. there are 820 Samuel Brown in the Census of NY 1790-1870 there are 3 Samuels in 1830 Chautauqua 5 in 1840 5 in 1850 and 4 in 1860 Saved the Brown for last. Dee

Hello All, I am asking for any help anyone can give me regarding the dead-end I have hit regarding my WARNER roots in Genesee County, Michigan. The family I am seeking is that of WASHINGTON WARNER and his wife Mary (unknown maiden name). In the 1860 census, three of their children are shown: GEORGE (1847), LYDIA 1850) and EMORY BRADFORD WARNER ( my great-grandfather) (1852). All three were born in Flushing Township (Genesee County, MI). By 1880, Emory Warner has married CAROLINE PERKINS, whose family hailed from Jefferson County, New York and settled in Hemlock (Saginaw County), MI. Washington WARNER's occupation is listed as a shoemaker, a trade carried on by his sons. The 1860 census records also show that Washington and Mary were born in New York, but the 1880 census shows them being born in Pennsylvania. A book titled "The History of Genesee County" (MI) written around 1890, shows Washington Warner listed under "Overseers of the Poor 1848. There are Warner references in Eaton and Shiawassee Counties, MI. Family lore from my 95 year old cousin says The Warner family in Pennsylvania might have been from the Philadelphia or Pittsburgh areas, with a reference to "Pennsylvania Dutch," which surprised me because I have been told my Warner's emigrated from either England or Ireland. Yes, I'm confused too! Thank you for taking the time to read all of this. Any information will be 100% more than I have right now. Can I sound any more pitifully desperate? Sincerely, Kevin O'Brien Laguna Hills, California Researching: Dorchester Perkins Shannon Van Schaick Warner Ivall Lowe Gauley

Super, Thank You I already found my COBB in Custer Co SD. I just minutes earlier posted the Illinois marriage info. THIS is how a list is supposed to work I will now pass this on to MY lists Dee Chautauqua Co NY Blachette@aol.com wrote: > Just thought I would add in a site for anyone who may be searching in South > Dakota as well as in these states. You can look up SD birth records that are > 100 years old or over on the Internet. Here is a link to the site. Hope > this helps someone. > <A HREF="http://www.state.sd.us/doh/vitalrec/birthrecords/index.cfm">Click > here: Birth Record Search</A> >

I found a great site if you have any kinfolk that went to Illinois, this is a complete marriage index of all statewide marriages, 1763-1900. http://www2.sos.state.il.us/cgi-bin/marriage search by bride or groom or both, or just a surname; Dee Chautauqua Co. NY

Need help. According to information I got from my grandmother, the BROWN(E) folk in our tree came to New England in 1632 on the Ship "Lion". John BROWNE of Hawkedon, England, came with parents John and Dorothy. The tree meanders to Warren Co, PA. Sarah Angeline BROWN, born in Heath, MA She married William McLAY, born in Glasgow, SCT Their graves are in West Spring Creek Cemetery, Warren Co Anyway, I have the information from MA to present. I've been unable to trace before that. Dale Adams Texas

Could someone tell me if Marienville and Gilfoyle are in Jenks Twonship? Thank you Dorrie

Can anyone tell me if the cemetery at Grand Valley is still used today or if anyone maintains it? Judy Swan

Hi Now that the roots web seems to be up again the new listing for Slab City, (honest) also known as Pleasant Valley or Sherman Valley is now online, use your edit-search for surnames, I could not get them into order. We will soon be adding a bit more info to this, my family is coming through with more data. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nychauta/CEMETERY/Svalley.html Thanks Jay Priest. Do you all also know how easily information is submitted? If you have a cemetery reading or a census and would like to just type it up into your word processor, copy/paste the data to email and send it to Jay Priest, He is the wizzard behind this. Dee

Will the list owner please contact me? Thank you Alison Franks Archivist Rawson Family Association

This is Elisha; He,, MARIA and son ALTON are all on one tombstone. But it is WARREN county he is buried in and there were none other found in this area. Dee Here is part of Elishas beginnings, Suzanne HIEBER has him; this info from her Elisha Henry Farnham b 1818 Conn Elvia E Cumings b1821 1 Emily Arvida Farnham b 1842 PA d 1913 2 Elisha Stephen Farnham b 1844 Lincolnville, Crawford Co PA d Dec 4, 1880 Columbine Warren Co PA Maria Lore b 1846 PA d May 18, 1893 Warren Co PA children: Franklin Farnham Anthony H Farnham Jennie May Farnham Frank Arnold Farnham Charles J Farnham Alton Farnham Jennie Sophia Farnham Other children of Elisha Henry & Elvia Farnham and so on. I am back from my trip to Chautauqua and Cattaragus. Very successful, gathered a lot of new information. I need to digest it and make new research plans. Susanne Hieber Jenny Farnham wrote: > In the book "The New England Descendants of The > Immigrant Ralph Farnum of Rochester, Kent County > England and Ipswich, Massachusetts" by Russell > Clare Farnham, Certified Genealogist, I found this: > > "Elisha Parks Farnham (Eliab/8,Elisha/7,Eliab/6, Eliab/5, > Henry/4,Ralph/3,Ralph/2,Ralph1), b 1840; d probably Falls > Twp, Wyoming County, PA before 4 Sept 1871. He married > c1864 Eliza Jane ROSS, b Mill City, PA 2 November > 1841 according to her deather certificate, daughter of > Daniel and Jane (Philo) Ross whome she was living with at age > 7 in 1850 at Falls Twp, WyomingCo., PA, and also in > 1860 at age 17. She died a widow at Falls Twp, Wyoming > County, PA 11 May 1925 of bronchial pneumonia at age 83. > > Elisha served during the Civil War in Co. B, 132 Reg't, > 1st Pennsylvania Volunteers. > > Other info in the book too. But just a tidbit or two > to even see if this is what you are looking for. > > The author of the above book can be reached at > walrusgenealogy@juno.com if you'd like to purchase the > books published this year. > > Jennifer Farnham-Farnham > > On Wed, Nov 10, 1999 at 06:12:58PM +0000, Dee Davidson wrote: > > Hello > > > > I found an ELISHA Farnham born 1844 died 1930, wife Maria, born 1846, > > died 1892 Son Alton, born and died 1883 in Spring Creek Twp. Warren Co > > PA, Does any one have any idea who he was or came from? He is the only > > one I found here, his stone as clear as can be, rural cemetery in the > > woods on a dirt road off Rte 77 near the CLOUGH Farm (Cluff) Does any > > one have any info on any FARNHAM in this area of PA? Does he connect to > > the many FARNHAM in nearby Chautauqua Co NY > > Dee, Daughter of Farnham. > > Chautuaqua Co NY > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

Hello I found an ELISHA Farnham born 1844 died 1930, wife Maria, born 1846, died 1892 Son Alton, born and died 1883 in Spring Creek Twp. Warren Co PA, Does any one have any idea who he was or came from? He is the only one I found here, his stone as clear as can be, rural cemetery in the woods on a dirt road off Rte 77 near the CLOUGH Farm (Cluff) Does any one have any info on any FARNHAM in this area of PA? Does he connect to the many FARNHAM in nearby Chautauqua Co NY Dee, Daughter of Farnham. Chautuaqua Co NY

Dee Davidson wrote: >I have very little to go on but I am re- starting the search for the >BROWN Family And ROBINSON >ORRIN or OREN, Orin, BROWN......<snip> >ORLANDO Brown born about 1885, probably in PA,....<snip> >OLA ADELIA BROWN born Columbus PA, ca 1892,...<snip> Hi Dee, I don't know, I might be way off base on this but I have a Samuel Brown b. 1808 d. 1854 Ashville, Chautauqua Co., NY, who married in 1827 Clarissa Slayton b. 1809 Springfield, Ostego Co., NY, died 1884 Jamestown, NY. I know that they had two children but might have been more. They seemed to favour nameing their children with the letter O. i. Olivia A. Brown b. 1840 Ashville d. 1905 Jamestown m. Abner Hazeltine in 1867 Ashville, NY. ii. Orsell Brown died 1881. I have more info on the family but my computer crashed awhile ago and I lost what I had on there but I am sure that I have hard copies somewhere but can't find them at the moment. If you haven't gotten any further with your search, I know someone who is descended from this line of Browns and can ask them if they recognise the info that you sent to the list. - Ed Edward Coates Sinker Church Lea Bosbury, Herefordshire HR8 1PX UK

I am looking for information on the Barnes Messenger line in Warren County, Pa. I have a Rufus Milo Messenger that ws married to Elizabeth Ann Barnes the daughter of Timothy Barnes III and Almira(Cole) in New York 1825. The Messenger's had two children Edwin Milo Messenger born 1827 and Chauncy Monroe Messenger born Warren County, Pa. in 1836 the family traveled to Peoria, IL. I am looking for other Messenger lines that have the Name Chauncy Messenger or other Messsenger's that lived close to Barnes, PA. Eliza Messenger remarried on June 1837 to a Jacob Ross Jr. after the passing of Rufus Milo Messenger in Peoria, IL 1836/7 If anyone can help I would be so thankful for the lines being shared. Rose Harmia Mitcham

Hello I have very little to go on but I am re- starting the search for the BROWN Family And ROBINSON ORRIN or OREN, Orin, BROWN married to Martha ROBINSON They were in Columbus Twp when /where my Grandmother, Ola Adelia Brown was born, She had a brother that was called "Sandy" Brown, he was born ca 1890, and buried Sherman Chautauqua Co NY 1939 as AVERY Brown, he married to Iva DIMICK ORLANDO Brown born about 1885, probably in PA, died ca 1955 Ripley Chaut. Co, is buried in North East PA, he was married to Jessie EARL, born Oct 27 1885, Northeast PA, died Ripley, May 7 1961.buried NE. his Sister, He was a witness at her marriage. OLA ADELIA BROWN born Columbus PA, ca 1892, married at age 16 to Frederick Richard PRATT in Ripley NY, March 15, 1908.She died April 22, 1930 and is buried in Portland Evergreen Cemetery.She was my Grandmother, died before I was born, I have found NO information for the parents of these 3 and I am sure there were others. Orrins name is spelled this way on the marriage license, wife /mother of Ola is Martha ROBINSON. there must be some record in Columbus or Chautauqua county on this family, and any clue will get me started. Dee Chautauqua Co NY

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