To the best of my knowledge, there is no Brown Hill in Warren Co. There is a community by that name in Crawford County, PA. near the Warren Co., border. For any of you who are interested in the Samuel Brown Family, I have a pretty complete report on the family. This family has been very well researched and old Samuel left alot of descendants. I would be happy to share what I have for those of you that are interested. Please let me know you tie into the family. Dennis R. Davis R8459@aol.com

Good Morning All: This is a few Brown entries that appear in the Vol 1 of "Marriage and Death Notices Extracted from Warren Co., PA Newspapers 1848-1865 by Joan McRae 1982". Pg 20 Died at Sugar Grove 13 Nov, James Brown, Esq., in his 33d year [Warren Mail issue 20 Nov 1851] Married 16 Nov 1851 by E. W. Chase, Edq., Mr. Samuel W. Brown to Miss Lovina Jane Norton, all of Pine Grove [Warren Mail issue 27 Nov 1851] pg 68 Married 3d inst. by Mark Willson, Esq., Mr. Nathan W. Brown of Sugar Grove to Miss May Jane McIntyre of Farmington [Warren Mail issue 09 Feb 1861] I checked all three volumes that I have for the Browns mentioned in the various messages, but this is all that I can find that might be of interest. Regards, Alison Franks Archivist, Rawson Family Associatin http://www.rawsonfamily.org

Hi All I am having MAJOR email problems , I crash and have to restart when I send a mailing so I am not ignoring you, I can read my mail, but cannot answer, I need to call my Puter man Millie BECKER Yes Please and I will have Mom call you on the book This is "Awful" Please stand by Dee Davidson Chautauqua Co NY

Hello In the 1830 Busti, Chautuaqua Census are the following BUSH Men ELI, page 264 HEMAN page 270 HEMAN C. page 270 in 1840 Busti, ABBEY, page, 075 HEMAN C. 069 HIRAM 069 SELDEN F. 070 The only BUSH in Warren Co PA in 1840 is Joshua, Columbus TWP , where Bear Lake is located I think in 1830 There are 2 Bush both page 026, William L. and Joshua, Warren Co, Columbus TWP But ADAM only is showing in Warren Co for one Warren Co.CENSUS, 1860, Freehold twp, page 854 There is one ADAM in PA in 1840 and 2 in 1850 in Otsego Co NY, One in EXETER page 033 and one in MIDDLEFIELD, page 285 The IGI lists an Adam BUSH Christened, Montgomery Co NY Sept. 20 1812, Son of Heinrich and Anna, Lutheran Saint Pauls Church, Minden Twp, Montgomery, New York. Here you mention Cemetery records for Bear Lake? Do you have them? where does one GET them and will you share them if you still do have them? Dee Chautauqua Co NY TBush40537@aol.com wrote: > I'm looking for the place (NY) and date of birth (about 1812) and death > (after 1880) for Adam BUSH. He bought land in Freehold (Warren Co.) in 1837 > but doesn't appear in 1840-50 census. In 1850 he is listed in the Busti > (Chautauqua Co.) census, then later in the 1860-70-80 Warren Co., PA > censuses. He died sometime after 1880 and was buried in Bear Lake Cemetery; > however, no date is listed in the cemetery records. No death certificate, > obituary or will has been found. Any ideas from those of you who are familiar > with the area? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Doug

Hi, Kathy, Do you know who your very first BROWN ancestor was here in America? Was it Richard BROWNE by any chance? If so, I'd like to know what family lineage Samuel had from Richard. I know that Samuel was quite illustrious in Sugar Grove because he and Diantha came so early, for one thing. Is that why you took for granted that Brown Hill was named after him? I heard there was a BROWN who was involved in selling land to new settlers at the time, but I don't know if this was Samuel or not. Did your Samuel family live on Brown Hill? At any rate, there seem to be several BROWNs in the area by the 1830s. I have tax assessment pages going back to 1829. Names were alphabetized. The page of the Bs that I have for 1829 Brokenstraw lists two of my BROWNs (Cyrus and Cyrenus, Jr.) and Samuel, Jr. 1830 Brokenstraw lists three of mine (Cyrenus Sr, Cyrenus Jr, and Cyrus) and also Samuel, Sr. (1830 census for Brokenstraw lists only two of mine (Daniel B. and Cyrenus) 1832 Brokenstraw lists my Elijah...but also your Samuel and a Peter. 1833 Sugar Grove lists my Elijah and my Cyrus and also Zuse (?--might be a contraction), Nathan W., and Janet 1834 Sugar Grove lists Elijah, Cyrus, Nathan, Janet, and Samuel (he had a cow worth $10 and a tavern worth $50) 1840 Sugar Grove lists James, Janet, Nathaniel, Solomon, and my Cyrenus. Additionally, I have a page of BROWNs from the Index to Deeds for Warren Co. who were grantees. In Brokenstraw or Sugar Grove those BROWNs listed are David (1814/1822), Jennet (1830), my Cyrenus (1841). So, you see, your Samuel and family were not the only BROWNs there in that era. Jane in AZ -------------------- > Dear Dee, > I have been looking at the Browns you have been asking for and think it > might be a different family. I will give you briefly what I have and you > can see if any of it connects. > Samuel BROWN b. 20 Dec 1779 in Broadalbin, Montgomery, NY > d. 21 Sep 1864 in Grand Valley, Warren, PA, m. 27 Nov 1808 to > Diantha FOSTER in Broadalbin, Mont. NY. Diantha b. 25/27 July 1792 in > Massachusetts, d. 12 July 1874 in Grand Valley, Warren, PA. > Children: > Eunice, b. 1809, Susanna, b. 1811, Nathaniel, b. 1812, Lydia, b. 1813, > Absalom, b. 1815, Solomon, b. 1817, Diantha, b. 1819, William, b. 1821, > Polly, b. 1823, Huldah, b. 1825, James, b. 1827, Adaline, b. 1829, Cyrus, b. > 1833, Abigail, b. 1835. > If you want more on this, I can send you a gedcom plus I think I have it > on Ancestry.com and also in Family Search Ancestral File. Kathy Johnson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dee Davidson <jcricket@cecomet.net> > To: John E. Johnson <hole18@hctc.com> > Cc: <PAFOREST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 8:09 AM > Subject: Re: Brown Hill, Sugar Grove > > > > Hi > > I have been doing a bit of searching and I think you are quite correct, > What can > > you tell us about the Browns YOU have? We are all looking hard for these > and > > banging our heads on the "Brick" wall a lot too. > > > > Dee > > > > "John E. Johnson" wrote: > > > > > I always assumed Brown Hill was named after my ancestors, Samuel Brown > & > > > Diantha Foster who entered Warren County in 1819, but I am not sure. > Kathy > > > Johnson > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jane T. <thaia@goodnet.com> > > > To: PAFOREST-L@rootsweb.com <PAFOREST-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Date: Saturday, November 20, 1999 3:13 PM > > > Subject: Brown Hill, Sugar Grove > > > > > > >Does anyone know after which Brown family that Brown Hill was named... > > > >and when it received this name? > > > > > > > >Jane > > > >thaia@goodnet.com > > > > > > > >______________________________ > >

I have a rather extensive Anhantafel chart I did a while back on the (male) BROWN line from Samuel on back (not ALL of which has been proved but looks promising). You'll find it at: http://www.intrepid.net/genealogy/junghen/donnaAhnentxt.html Look for Number 80 Samuel Brown (with first wife Susanna ?Rouse?, his second wife was Diantha Foster). Then double 80 to 160 and you'll find his father, etc. Donna 80 Samuel Brown. Born 19 Dec 1779 in Cambridge, Washington Co, New York. Died 18 Sep 1864 in Chautauqua Co.NY, /Warren, Pennsylvania. Buried 1864 in Old Grand Vall., Eldred Twp., Warren, Pennsylvania. 81 Susanna Rouse. Born 7 Mar 1779. Died 27 May 1808 in Montgomery, New York. Buried in Montgomery, New York. > Hi > I have been doing a bit of searching and I think you are quite correct, >What can > you tell us about the Browns YOU have? We are all looking hard for these and > banging our heads on the "Brick" wall a lot too. > > Dee > > "John E. Johnson" wrote: > > > I always assumed Brown Hill was named after my ancestors, Samuel Brown & > > Diantha Foster who entered Warren County in 1819, but I am not sure. >Kathy > > Johnson > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jane T. <thaia@goodnet.com> > > To: PAFOREST-L@rootsweb.com <PAFOREST-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: Saturday, November 20, 1999 3:13 PM > > Subject: Brown Hill, Sugar Grove > > > > >Does anyone know after which Brown family that Brown Hill was named... > > >and when it received this name? > > > > > >Jane > > >thaia@goodnet.com > > > > > >______________________________

Dear Dee, I have been looking at the Browns you have been asking for and think it might be a different family. I will give you briefly what I have and you can see if any of it connects. Samuel BROWN b. 20 Dec 1779 in Broadalbin, Montgomery, NY d. 21 Sep 1864 in Grand Valley, Warren, PA, m. 27 Nov 1808 to Diantha FOSTER in Broadalbin, Mont. NY. Diantha b. 25/27 July 1792 in Massachusetts, d. 12 July 1874 in Grand Valley, Warren, PA. Children: Eunice, b. 1809, Susanna, b. 1811, Nathaniel, b. 1812, Lydia, b. 1813, Absalom, b. 1815, Solomon, b. 1817, Diantha, b. 1819, William, b. 1821, Polly, b. 1823, Huldah, b. 1825, James, b. 1827, Adaline, b. 1829, Cyrus, b. 1833, Abigail, b. 1835. If you want more on this, I can send you a gedcom plus I think I have it on Ancestry.com and also in Family Search Ancestral File. Kathy Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: Dee Davidson <jcricket@cecomet.net> To: John E. Johnson <hole18@hctc.com> Cc: <PAFOREST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 8:09 AM Subject: Re: Brown Hill, Sugar Grove > Hi > I have been doing a bit of searching and I think you are quite correct, What can > you tell us about the Browns YOU have? We are all looking hard for these and > banging our heads on the "Brick" wall a lot too. > > Dee > > "John E. Johnson" wrote: > > > I always assumed Brown Hill was named after my ancestors, Samuel Brown & > > Diantha Foster who entered Warren County in 1819, but I am not sure. Kathy > > Johnson > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jane T. <thaia@goodnet.com> > > To: PAFOREST-L@rootsweb.com <PAFOREST-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: Saturday, November 20, 1999 3:13 PM > > Subject: Brown Hill, Sugar Grove > > > > >Does anyone know after which Brown family that Brown Hill was named... > > >and when it received this name? > > > > > >Jane > > >thaia@goodnet.com > > > > > >______________________________

I have the following list from the old Union Grove Cemetery near Lander, PA. Are any of the list members searching the McIntyres? Very much interested in hearing from you. Jack McIntyre LOT# NAME OF PERSON IN LOT 1 2 3 William Rowland 4 5 Aaron Scranton 6 Lorenzo Smith 7 Rounds 8 A. Cramer 9 W. Smith 10 S. B. Dunbar 11 Loring Jones 12 Noah Chappel 13 Harris 14 A. Green 15 Eliand Curtiss 16 Josiah Wilson 17 James Burton 18 Joseph O'Dell 19 Calvin Johnson 20 N. W. Skinner to H. Post 21 Miles to Jasper Cowles 22 George White 23 B. Rowley (Moses Rowley)? 24 John Mahan 25 Milo Skinner 26 J. Fetterly 27 M. Johnson 28 C. Pond 29 B. Gray 30 V. R. Thompson 31 F. Smith (Lorenzo)? 32 C. Pond 33 J. J. Wheeler 34 Horace Mix Sr. 35 C. Pond 36 Henry Gardner 37 Alfred F. Cowles 38 James Foster 39 H. Brown 40 Gideon M. Northrop 41 David Northrop 42 James Mahan? 43 Jasper Cowles 44 S. Rathbun 45 Horatio Stanford 46 Benjamin Franklin 47 Riley Preston 4X William Townsend 49 Alex Stuart 50 J. Derby 51 Merrit Northrop 52 Vetus Pond 53 Orange White 54 Stephen Gardner 55 A. Hill (Horace)? 56 S. Johnson (Elihu)? 57 E. Northrop (Eben or Ebenezer)? 58 G. Cates 59 E. Morse 60 David Mahan 61 Joel Howd 62 Levi Northrop 63 William McIntyre & Belinda 64 Henry Stuart 65 J. C. Preston 66 James Cooper 67 Elihu Johnson 68 Scranton 69 William Bowdish 70 Horace Mix Jr. 71 S. Chappel 72 Jesse Laning 73 Alpheus Weatherby 74 Isaac Johnson 75 James D. Stuart 76 H. Townsend (possibly Hosea or Hale) 77 F. Townsend (possibly Francis or Frances) 78 Meriman 79 80 E. Weatherby from H. Northrop 81 J. D. Stewart (adjoining lot 75) 82 C. B. Mix (probably Chancy) 83 Nelson Preston 84 85 86 Mclntyre 87 C.P. Hill

Have you tried the History of Warren County by Schenk? Kathy Johnson -----Original Message----- From: Jane T. <thaia@goodnet.com> To: PAFOREST-L@rootsweb.com <PAFOREST-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, November 20, 1999 3:52 PM Subject: Loren WICKWIRE + BROWN >I am seeking any and all information about Loren WICKWIRE and Experience >BROWN, who may have married ca. 1836-1840s, possibly in Sugar Grove or in >Chautauqua Co. I know nothing about these folks, as I obtained the info of >their marriage from someone who said she got it from the Warren Co. >Historical Society (I didn't see it when I was there tho). It is my >belief that Experience BROWN was the dau of Cyrenius and Experience >(Barnstable) BROWN who lived in Brokenstraw in the 1830 census and in >Sugar Grove in the 1840 census. Allegedly, Loren and Experience lived in >the Sugar Grove area all their lives, but I've not had good luck with >finding them in the censuses. > >Best I can figure out, Experience BROWN was b. in NY bet. 1816 and 1820. >Her siblings were Daniel B., Hannah Pelton (m. Joseph ARTERS), Cyrenius, >Jr., Barnabas, Elijah, and Cyrus BROWN. > >There were WICKWIREs in Warren Co., but none named Loren. I know nothing >at all about the alleged Loren. > >Might anyone know anything about this pair? > >Jane >thaia@goodnet.com > >______________________________

I always assumed Brown Hill was named after my ancestors, Samuel Brown & Diantha Foster who entered Warren County in 1819, but I am not sure. Kathy Johnson -----Original Message----- From: Jane T. <thaia@goodnet.com> To: PAFOREST-L@rootsweb.com <PAFOREST-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, November 20, 1999 3:13 PM Subject: Brown Hill, Sugar Grove >Does anyone know after which Brown family that Brown Hill was named... >and when it received this name? > >Jane >thaia@goodnet.com > >______________________________

Since Brown's are being listed I will send my brick wall. My grandmother, Mary Eva BROWN was born to Eli BROWN and Ellen LOOMIS in 1908. I have not been able to find out any information on Eli. Does anyone have him? Helene

Hi I have been doing a bit of searching and I think you are quite correct, What can you tell us about the Browns YOU have? We are all looking hard for these and banging our heads on the "Brick" wall a lot too. Dee "John E. Johnson" wrote: > I always assumed Brown Hill was named after my ancestors, Samuel Brown & > Diantha Foster who entered Warren County in 1819, but I am not sure. Kathy > Johnson > -----Original Message----- > From: Jane T. <thaia@goodnet.com> > To: PAFOREST-L@rootsweb.com <PAFOREST-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Saturday, November 20, 1999 3:13 PM > Subject: Brown Hill, Sugar Grove > > >Does anyone know after which Brown family that Brown Hill was named... > >and when it received this name? > > > >Jane > >thaia@goodnet.com > > > >______________________________

Good day, Does anyone have information on the connection between these two families? I have Emmeline BROWN, b. Heath, MA married Artemas EATON, b. Philipstown, MA I think they were in Spring Creek ca 1850 Dale Adams

I'm looking for the place (NY) and date of birth (about 1812) and death (after 1880) for Adam BUSH. He bought land in Freehold (Warren Co.) in 1837 but doesn't appear in 1840-50 census. In 1850 he is listed in the Busti (Chautauqua Co.) census, then later in the 1860-70-80 Warren Co., PA censuses. He died sometime after 1880 and was buried in Bear Lake Cemetery; however, no date is listed in the cemetery records. No death certificate, obituary or will has been found. Any ideas from those of you who are familiar with the area? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Doug

Also should have said that half of Brown Hill Rd. is im Brokenstraw Twp. and the other have Sugar Grove Twp. Warren Co. Pa.

Brown Hill runs from Youngsville into Chandlers Valley, has always been a dirt road as long as I can remember. I lived on Fidlers Hill that ran between Mathews Run and Brown Hill as a kid. If you had relatives in the aera they were most likely buried in the Chandlers Valley Cem. or the big one in Youngsville.

Brown Found ZUR Brown, born 1806, Son of Daniel BROWN, and Sarah LYMAN, in Butternutts, Otsego Co NY, married in Lottsville, Warren Co PA to Margaret WOODIN, May 21 1829 ZUR is found in 1830 Census of Sugar Grove Warren Co PA in 1840 he is in FREEHOLD twp, Warren Co,and gone. Where and who are his children? Daniel was born June 30,1778, Queensbury Washington Co NY, son of Asa, 1765 and Sarah (MOON) Brown Dee

Dee,where did you find the info re Ursula TEAL's birth date and location? Sounds like it came from the book written by Celeste Pember Hazen about the PEMBER family. She wrote the TEAL children's births were in Halloway, when it really should have been Hallowell, Ontario. The TEALLs spelled their name TEALL, TEAL, and TEEL. In a civil document I also saw it spelled Thiel. To this day some of the family spell the name TEAL, others TEALL. A descendant has an anvil, I'm told, that belonged to Charles M. and "TEALL" is inscribed on it; so that branch of the family spells the name "TEALL." The John TEAL you found is a son of Charles M. and Clarissa (Pember) TEAL, brother to Ursula. Jane Teal likely was his widow (he d. ca 1845). I thought Charles M. TEAL was in Brokenstraw in 1830, Sugar Grove in 1840. I'd love for Stephen J. BROWN to be the Stephen I'm looking for, but you say that he was in the 1850 Busti census. As Ursula (Teal) BROWN had a new surname in 1850, I doubt this Stephen is the one I seek...if her husband's name really was Stephen...again, a Celeste Pember Hazen bit of info that even she was unsure about. Ursula's sister, Jane, married Elijah BROWN. We wonder if Stephen BROWN was of the same family, but we don't think so, unless Stephen (?)'s name was something else, like Cyrus (the only one of my BROWN brothers I know absolutely nothing about). As for the location of Brown Hill Road: my map shows that it runs roughly north and south, from Jackson Run Road south to Mathews Run Rd. at Youngs- ville. I'm so glad you found your Orrin that you've been hunting for! Jane thaia@goodnet.com ----------- On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Dee Davidson wrote: > There is no STEPHEN Brown in Warren Co PA from 1820-1870 Census that I have > available > But HOORAY I did find one ORRIN Brown in Warren Co, COLUMBUS TWP 1860 > Census, That is the Family of my BROWN, Ola , Orlando and Avery.I just > stumbled onto this one. Orrin or Oren is their Father's name. > I DID find a Stephen BROWN 3 references in Erie, 1830 Venango Twp, 1840 and > 1850 in Conneaut Twp, Erie Co PA, > > One Stephen J. BROWN in BUSTI, which is the Chautauqua Co Township bordering > Sugar Grove CENSUS info 1830 Busti , in 1840 Busti, 1850 Busti, Possibly > your Stephem > I only have head of house available > For TEAL in Warren Co PA these are the only 3/ There are NO TEALL but there > is a birth for Ursula in Halloway, Hastings Co., Ontario June 2, 1812, dau > of Charles TEAL and Clarissa PEMBER, > CENSUS > Charles M. Sugar Grove PA, 1830 > John, 1840, Sugar Grove, and > JANE, Warren Co PA Sugar Grove, 1850, head of house, page 241 of that census > > Whew !! > Maybe we will find them all > > Dee > > "Jane T." wrote: > > > Since Dee is posting BROWNs, I might as well try some new ones of mine. > > > > Ursula TEALL, b. 02 Jun 1812, Ontario, Canada, of the Teal Hill TEALLs, > > Sugar Grove, m. Stephen BROWN ca. 1831, maybe in the Sugar Grove area > > or in the Chautauqua Co., NY area. We're not sure that his first name > > was Stephen. We think their children, again, b. in the Sugar Grove area > > or Chautauqua Co, NY probably, were: > > > > i Charles M.- b. ca 1832 > > ii Clara - b. ca 1835 > > iii Mariah - b. ca. 1838 > > iv Lorenzo A. - b. 19 Feb 1840 > > v Edward b. 1842 or 1843 > > > > We think Stephen (?) had died by 1850 because Ursula by then had another > > surname and was in Lucas Co. OH. We think her TEALL parents and siblings > > left Sugar Grove for MI about 1845. > > > > Anyone know anything about this BROWN...where he came from, who he > > belonged to, etc.? > > > > Jane in AZ > > thaia@goodnet.com > >

I am seeking any and all information about Loren WICKWIRE and Experience BROWN, who may have married ca. 1836-1840s, possibly in Sugar Grove or in Chautauqua Co. I know nothing about these folks, as I obtained the info of their marriage from someone who said she got it from the Warren Co. Historical Society (I didn't see it when I was there tho). It is my belief that Experience BROWN was the dau of Cyrenius and Experience (Barnstable) BROWN who lived in Brokenstraw in the 1830 census and in Sugar Grove in the 1840 census. Allegedly, Loren and Experience lived in the Sugar Grove area all their lives, but I've not had good luck with finding them in the censuses. Best I can figure out, Experience BROWN was b. in NY bet. 1816 and 1820. Her siblings were Daniel B., Hannah Pelton (m. Joseph ARTERS), Cyrenius, Jr., Barnabas, Elijah, and Cyrus BROWN. There were WICKWIREs in Warren Co., but none named Loren. I know nothing at all about the alleged Loren. Might anyone know anything about this pair? Jane thaia@goodnet.com

Since Dee is posting BROWNs, I might as well try some new ones of mine. Ursula TEALL, b. 02 Jun 1812, Ontario, Canada, of the Teal Hill TEALLs, Sugar Grove, m. Stephen BROWN ca. 1831, maybe in the Sugar Grove area or in the Chautauqua Co., NY area. We're not sure that his first name was Stephen. We think their children, again, b. in the Sugar Grove area or Chautauqua Co, NY probably, were: i Charles M.- b. ca 1832 ii Clara - b. ca 1835 iii Mariah - b. ca. 1838 iv Lorenzo A. - b. 19 Feb 1840 v Edward b. 1842 or 1843 We think Stephen (?) had died by 1850 because Ursula by then had another surname and was in Lucas Co. OH. We think her TEALL parents and siblings left Sugar Grove for MI about 1845. Anyone know anything about this BROWN...where he came from, who he belonged to, etc.? Jane in AZ thaia@goodnet.com