Listers: Taken from the Scotch-Irish list. If you have SI ancestors this is terrific list, with a very informative listmistress, Linda Merle. Marybeth C. ========= << Here's a website that has a black list of Pennsylvanians who refused to take the oath to the Continental Congress (etc). Most left, eventually settled in Canada or somewhere else. No doubt like in Virginia, a few returned in the early 1800s: http://my.tbaytel.net/bmartin/blacklst.htm . Also checking "Guide to genealogical Sources at the Pennyslvania Archives" by Dructor which clarifies on page 9 that many of the documents in "lists of persons who took the oath of allegiance 1770-1790" (RG 26) are LOYALTY OATHS not naturalization papers. It also helpfully tells us that SOME of the oaths were printed in the PA Archives, Second Series, Vol III. Before 1786 they only give the person's name and residence -- so even if the person was foreign born, these documents are of no assistence in distinguishing between foreign born and native residents. So apparently there's some more of these oaths, unpublished, at the physical PA Archives. Maybe filmed by LDS....donno. An excellent source for trying to locate the origins of an immigrant (Immigration Research) is to be found at www.genealogy.com/university.html. Several free courses. My family has found the origins of several colonial and early 18th century ancestors this way. The strategies can work to just find the prior generation in difficult cases such as one of ours. Generations of family researchers were searching for the name of the ancestor's parent (German, so I won't mention it here). My sister reviewed every land record with the surname for 50 years in the county (Allegheny, PA) and found a land registration in the late 1800s in which our ancestor mentioned his parents (father spelled surname differently), siblings, cousins, etc, anyone who might still be alive to swear that he had received the land from his father. It was a lot of work but well worth it. Now the father's our brick wall .... you always got one. The trouble is that there is NO single document that will always give you the origin of the colonial immigrant so you must search all records till you do find a clue. Sometimes the only clue will be in the oral history of a collateral line so if you don't trace collateral lines, you will never find the one clue. It's frankly very difficult work for Scotch Irish unless you luck out. Linda Merle ______________________________ >>