Thanks again Trisha--this is not the George Wagner I am looking for. LaVonne On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:46:44 -0700 PAFAYETT-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: Thank you ladies for the maiden name of Anna Mariah. Does anyone know if her mother's maiden name was Secrist??? LaVonne I have Anna's parents are John M Bierer and Barbara Holtzinger Trisha