Grant, From what has been posted, it does not appear that anyone has suggested that the obit postings stop. Rather put the obits into a format that would be user friendly. The individual postings are cumbersome to the system and cause the users to continually waste valuable research time. I will send you a copy of a couple of the communications sent to Ed. Which by the way, Edwards response to my suggestion, was in some type of computer slang, and not appreciated. I did not see any postings that were rude or with out possible alternatives to the dilvery of Obit information. Take a look and see what you think. If every list did this, we all would spend a great deal of time daily, deleting obit's daily. In todays world the term "De Boss!" is completely out of line. Administrator is one thing, but "De Boss!" well that type of "My way or the highway!" attitude does not serve the better purpose of the list. Well Intended Lister, Janet ****************************************************************** Hello Andrew and others, The obituaries being posted on this list are being posted not only by myself, but by other volunteers, and we will continue to do so. Obituaries are the life-blood of genealogical research, and as such are right on topic for this list. Every obit posted to this list is one obit for the archives, and one that is made freely available to all future generations of researchers. The way I see it, if you don't care to receive the obits, you and others have several choices to make: 1. Configure your e-mail application to filter anything with "Obit" in the subsject line; Switch to the digest version of the list; 2. get more e-mail space from your server; 3. swicth to a sevrer that gives ample room for a researcher to conduct research; 4. Unsubscribe from the list. This is not intended to be a discussion of the posting of the obits by the volunteers, and I do not wish to see the discussion continued on the list. This is the way things are done on this list. If you and others cannot deal with the above listed options, I will help you unsubscribe. Sincerely, De Boss Edward ********************************************************************* ----- Original Message ----- From: "brainiac1082" <brainiac1082@netzero.net> To: <jcb486@cox.net>; <genedoc@icubed.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 9:52 AM Subject: please stop posting obits > Hello guys I know you're trying to help by posting obits but is there any > way you could just post it on the message board instead of flooding ppl's > emails w/ them? If not I am just going to have to leave the board because > this is ridiculous. > > --Andrew ********************************************************************** Ed, I sent out a sample from todays Herald Standard of the Obituary listing. See what you think? I receive the Herald Standard via e-mail daily. I live out of State and enjoy reading what is going on in the area, it just had occured to me that this format would only serve to add to your efforts. Also, Glenn Tunney has his Brownsville Column and Time Capsule link in the paper. Sharing his link or having his articles appear on site might be of interest to those folks from the Brownsville Area. Actually, I was born in Brownsville, as were many generations of our family. My Grandfather Francis B. Curry sold Prudential Insurance for forty years in the Fayette County and surrounding areas, he was a trusted friend in the Community. In addition my Uncle was a Priest in the Diocese of Greensburg, during his life Rev. Father Curry had many parrishes in the area throught his service to God. So you see I to am always interested in the lives of those that live in Fayette County and beyond for many well connected reasons. I hope you understand that my suggestions are honorable and in no way ment to be critical, as some might have you think. Thanks for all you do, it is appreciated. Regards, Janet ****************************************************************** GONG! Sincerely, Edward ****************************************************************** ---- Original Message ---- From: jlworendorff@copper.net To: ellen@b-n-s.com Subject: FW: RE: [PAFAY] To Ed on Newspapers Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 02:25:14 -00 Ellen, Just a post script to your conversation with Ed. The formal name of the Newspaper is The Herald Standard, the paper is online and does post it's obits. (http://www.heraldstandatd.com) I receive the paper by e-mail daily, I live out of state and enjoy scanning the area news. We all appreciate that Ed is keeping himself busy with his worth while work. Although, it would be even nicer if the Obits were recorded and maybe posted once a week or twice a month for those that are interested. The site address could be included. It would be great to have the obit information posted in a quick easy to read format. Maybe something like the Census. Then one could use their Internet Explorer to Edit/find specific names being sought. Time is at such a premium for most researchers, retired or not. The deleting process is very time consuming. From the peanut gallery, Janet ********************************************************************** SAMPLE The Herald Standard Herald Standard.com Listed are today's obituaries. For full story log on to HeraldStandard.com home : news : local news : obituaries Previous days' obituaries can be located by searching Their archived obituary section. The search will yield the date the obituary appeared online along with the person's name. By clicking on the person's name additional obituary information will be displayed. Archived Obituaries ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Ruth B. McCune Ruth B. McCune, 93, of Dickerson Run, Pa., died Saturday, Jan. 24, 2004, in the Lint Personal Care Home, Connellsville, Pa. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Robert W. Rabon Robert Woodrow Rabon, 85, of Uniontown, Pa., passed away on Friday, Jan. 23, 2004, in Mount Macrina Manor. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Willie Calloway Willie Reid Calloway, 88, of Continental No. 2, Pa., passed away peacefully Thursday evening, Jan. 22, 2004, at Harmon House Care Center, Mount Pleasant, Pa. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Robert Lewis Robert (Copie) Lewis, 59, of Connellsville, Pa., passed away Wednesday evening, Jan. 21, 2004, in Harrisburg, Pa. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Fannie M. Lee Fannie Mae Lee, 89, of Lamberton, Pa., passed away Wednesday, Jan. 21, 2004, in Uniontown Hospital. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Madge Dulaney Madge Dulaney, 89, of Waynesburg, Pa., died Saturday, Jan. 24, 2004, at 1:30 a.m., in Greene County memorial Hospital. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Arthur O. Held Jr. Arthur O. Held Jr., 82, of Waynesburg, Pa., died Friday, Jan. 23, 2004, at 9:15 p.m., in Washington Hospital, Washington, Pa. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Bernard J. Mancini Sr. Bernard J. Mancini Sr., 62, of Brownsville, Pa., passed away on Friday evening, Jan. 23, 2004, in UPMC-Presbyterian Hospital. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- George Rabatin George Rabatin of Uniontown, Pa., passed away Friday, Jan. 23, 2004. In heaven, he is reunited with his loving wife, Virginia. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Mary E. Hull Mary Ellen Hull, 84, of Farmington, Pa., passed away Friday, Jan. 23, 2004, in Presbyterian Hospital, Pittsburgh. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Dorothy L. Burke Dorothy L. Burke, age 74, of 1008 Virginia Avenue, Brackenridge, PA 15014 died Friday, January 23, 2004 at 10 p.m. in Highland Genesis Elder Care, Brackenridge, where she had been a resident for two months. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Michael Lee Piper Michael Lee Piper, 27, of New York, a Cabinetmaker who was born in Connellsville, Pa., died Friday, January 16, 2004. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- James Melvin Bosley James Melvin Bosley, 82, a lifelong resident of Connellsville, Pa., who served as a Staff Sergeant in the United States Army Air Corps during World War II, later worked for and retired from General Motors Corporation, attended Connellsville High School and the former Connellsville Business College, died Thursday, January 22, 2004 in H. C. Frick Hospital, Mount Pleasant, Pa. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- L. Boyd Snyder L. Boyd Snyder, 98, of Ligonier, Pa., and formerly of Stahlstown, Pa., the oldest retired Funeral Director in Pennsylvania, 1926 graduate of Mount Pleasant High School, who worked in the coal mines and as a house painter in the Donegal and Mount Pleasant areas to earn money to attend embalming school, and established the L. Boyd Snyder Funeral Home from the former E. N. Miller Funeral Home, died Thursday evening, January 22, 2003. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Leonard G. Helmick Leonard G. Helmick, 76, of Columbus, Ohio, died Wednesday, January 21, 2004 in Mount Carmel Hospital, Columbus, Ohio. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Anna Mysza Waltz Anna J. Mysza Waltz, age 88, of Lemont Furnace, Pa., passed away on Thursday, January 22, 2004 in Lafayette Manor Inc., Uniontown, Pa. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Theresa M. Manzella, R.N. Theresa M. Molnar Manzella, R.N., 92, of Uniontown, Pa., passed away suddenly on Thursday, January 22, 2004 in her home. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Olive Morris Rough Olive M. Little Morris Rough, 80, of Dawson, Pa., died Wednesday, January 21, 2004 at 7:20 p.m. in her home. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Sanford Marvin Roth Sanford Marvin Roth, 76, passed away Tuesday, January 20, 2004 in Siemon Lakeview Manor Estate, Somerset, Pa. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Jennifer A. Teegarden Jennifer Antonini Teegarden, 58, of Nemacolin, Pa., died at 1:45 p.m. on Thursday, January 22, 2004 at the Brownsville General Hospital, Brownsville, Pa. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Myron M. Maczko Myron M. Maczko, 87, of Leisenring, Pa., died Thursday, January 22, 2004 in Cherry Tree Nursing Center, Uniontown, Pa. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Mafalda Croce Stann Mafalda C. (Croce) Stann, 85, of Michigan died Tuesday, January 20, 2004. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Azelma M. Lewis Azelma M. Titler McGoldrick Lewis, 62 years, 2 months, 6 days, of Oakland, Maryland, who received a Bachelors Degree in Education from California University of Pennsylvania in California, Pa., taught elementary education at Broad Ford Elementary School and prior at Loch Lynn Elementary School, and was born in Youngstown, Ohio, died Wednesday, January 14, 2004 in Garrett County Memorial Hospital, Oakland, Maryland. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Doris Hribal Lesko Doris Joann Hribal Lesko, age 70, of Masontown, PA 15461 died Friday, January 23, 2004 at 7:15 a.m. in Beverly HealthCare, Uniontown, Pa. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Dr. Ronald E. Hugh, D.D.S. Dr. Ronald E. Hugh, D.D.S., 71, of Fairchance, Pa., died Wednesday, January 21, 2004 at home. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Geneva Ward Hobday Geneva Ward Hobday, 75, of Larchwood Drive, Delmont, Pa., who was born in Hancock, Maryland, devoted wife, mother, grandmother and sister, died Thursday, January 22, 2004 at 8:30 p.m. in Greensburg Care Center, Hempfield Township, Greensburg, Pa. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Joseph W. Depta Joseph W. Depta, 92, of Mount Pleasant R.D. 3, Pa., who owned Depta's Dairy Farm in East Huntingdon Township, Westmoreland County, Pa., which he managed with his parents until their death, and retired Foreman from United States Steel Corporation's Irvin works with 33 years service, died Thursday, January 22, 2004 in H. C. Frick Hospital, Mount Pleasant, Pa. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Leslie V. McMahon Sr. Leslie V. McMahon Sr., 75, passed away peacefully on Monday, January 19, 2004 in Mount Macrina Manor, Uniontown, Pa., with his family at his side. Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Joseph W. Depta Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Anna Mysza Waltz Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Olive Little Morris Rough Full Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Leonard G. Helmick ********************************************************************* ---- Original Message ---- From: ellen@b-n-s.com To: PAFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [PAFAY] To Ed on Newspapers Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:22:30 -0500 >Hi Ed, > What's this clearly indictated in the subject line, well, >sort of... H-S newspaper? You'r kidding me right? I have >no idea what H-S stands for, not being from your area? If I >want to keep one & use it in genealogy I know someone is >going to ask me what H-S stands for at some point. Please >answer this to the list so anyone else, like me, who doesn't >know or just doesn't recall what the name of the paper is >there now. You didn't say, but I guess that paper doesn't >put the obits on line??? My Best, Ellen (ETHS) > ********************************************************************* >-----Original Message----- >From: Edward [mailto:genedoc@icubed.com] >Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 5:34 PM >To: ellen@b-n-s.com >Subject: Re: [PAFAY] To Ed on Newspapers > >Hi Ellen, > > The newspaper from which I am getting my >posted obits is >clearly indicated in the subject line, well, sort >of......H-S newspaper, >which is the only Uniontown newspaper at the present time. >The ones that are >being typed by Carole are from various name unknown local >newspapers. More >than likely you can find most of them in the PA-Room of the >Uniontown Public >Library. Oh, sometimes I sendf some from the Connellsville >Courier, but I >clearly indicate that source when I send to the list, as I >do with all obits >I send to the list, unless the obit is not marked. > > Once the obits are in my archives, they are >there for an >eternity. Lucky that I or anyone else on the list now should >be around that >long. Web pages come and go, but the rootsweb.com mailing >list archives will >be there. I believe very deeply in my cause to help others >find their roots. >It is a very wholesome past time, and family oriented. It >never gets old or >tiring. The Lord is my source of personal inspiration, and >he guides me, so >it is not like work for me. I'm not married and have no one >to which I >answer except for The Big Guy, and I am conveniently close >to where my >ancestors settled when they came to this country. I have >been blessed and am >sharing this blessing with all who request it. > > Take care. edward >******************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ellen Ballas" <ellen@b-n-s.com> >To: <PAFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 4:32 PM >Subject: [PAFAY] To Ed on Newspapers > > >> Dear Ed, >> I'd like to ask if all these obits are coming from the >> same newspaper? What is the name of it/them for ID >purposes >> & is that paper on line to look at them for ourselves if >one >> wishes to do that? It seems like an awfully lot of work >for >> you to copy them off on here. More power to you for >taking >> that time. Ellen (ETHS) >> >>******************************************************************* >>

Just read Janet' response to me regarding the obit posting. I have no objection to the way they are posted. I read the ones of interest and delete the others. I must admit that I do not read any of the message board notes except those that appear in the lists to which I subscribe. I respond directly to the poster and not to the board. I do not read the boards themselves. Waste of time. I must also admit that I belong to several lists. Obits appear on all of them. The time taken from my research to review the subject line is minimal. I thank Ed for taking the time from his research to post the obits for all to read. Grant

I wanted to make a comment on the obituary posting issue. I apprecaite all the work that is being done for the benefit of others and for me, it does not take a lot of time for me to delete the obituaries. However from doing my research, I know that what you delete today might be of interest when you find you have a connection later on -- and then it might be too late! I am only at the 1860's level of my research in Fayette and really haven't been able to verify my great grandmother's family of origin. However when I do, I will have brothers and sisters to research and some of their descendents may be listed in these obituaries that I am deleting. Are the obituaries archived somewhere where a search can be done at a later date? And if not, I agree with the other Janet's suggestion that a way be found to archive them in a format that can be searched later on. Many thnaks to the people on this list who have been very helpful to me. Sincerely, Janet Watson