There is a page of information in the book, "Point Marion. . .from the Beginning," of which I have a copy. If you do not have this information and are interested, I'lll send it to you. Betty I am not researching the Uphold family myself. > I am looking for anyone who is working on the Uphold name.

I don't know if you have seen this or not, [the advice at the bottom] is that for any surname? That would be the way to go for an obit. I'll try that for James JOHNSON, Maybe for Thomas also. Thanks for looking for me. Everyone is so helpful. -------Original Message------- From: PAFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 4:13:10 PM To: PAFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAFAY] KUHNS family - info/thanks/request Hi; Just a note to let you know I am still working on Park Place Cemetery. As you know it's records leave much to be desired! However her are Kahn's family members I have so far Charles A Kahn Oct 29.1909- 13 June 1991 ---------angel Kahn's Oct 1896-23 Jul 1897 Abeam -E. - 9 Sep 1879- 14 Jul 1951 Albert B. - 1882-1944 Anna M- 1880-1940 David E- 29 Jul 1859- 14 Apr 1910 Harry A. - 1881-1921 Lida 1880-1945- wife of Harry Mary J. 1857-1976 Myrtle 1887-1976 Sadie - 2 Apr 1884- 25 Jun 1961 William H - 1848-1912 I suggest you write to Vickie Leonelli the Curator the PA Room c/o Uniontown Library 24 Jefferson Street, Uniontown,PA 15401. For $ 5.00 they will send you a copy of the 3x5 index cards for the surname. After you recieve it you can order for $2.00 each copies of the obits in the locat newspapers. I believe they are indexed up to about 1940 . However if you have the date of death for later obits they will also do those. Please be patient as Vickie is the only paid employee in the PA Room and she is over loaded with work. She will get it to you in a couple of weeks. Happy Hunting Marilyn ==== PAFAYETT Mailing List ==== The Fayette County Genealogical Society- http://www.hhs net/sss/fayette/fcgsinfo.htm Fayette County Archives- http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/fayette/index htm .

Rena M. Baldi DOLFI, 94, of Masontown died Friday, June 17, 1994, in LaFayette Manor, Uniontown. She was born March 12, 1900, in Florence, Italy, daughter of the late Ferdinand and Virginia Baldi. In addition to her parents she was predeceased by her husband Deno Dolfi, and a grandson, John Zapotosky III. She was a member of All Saints R.C. Church in Masontown. She and her husband owned and operated Dolfi's Restaurant on River Avenue in Masontown from 1923 to 1974. Surviving are these children, Virginia Tassone, Ferdinand Dolfi and his wife, Irene, and Mrs. John (Nancy) Zapotosky Jr. all of Masontown; five grandchildren, Richard Tassone, Gary Tassone, Ferdinand Dolfi Jr., Renee Sulipeck, Nanette Cochran; six great-grandchildren, Dean, Rena and Nicole Tassone, Ann Marie and Adam Dolfi, and Danielle Cochran. Friends will be received in the HAKY FUNERAL HOME, 515 North Main St., Masontown, today until 10:30 a.m. followed by a Mass of Christian Burial at 11 a.m., in All Saints R.C. Church, Masontown, with Rev. James M. Goldberg as celebrant. Interment will follow in St. Agnes Cemetery, Leckrone, Pa. Not related to me. Just sharing a resource. Carole Clarke

Dear Listers, Believe me, I do take responsibility in making the mistake of letting the reply go to the list. I do not apologize for what I said in it because I'm entitled to my opinion for being called a lot of horrible names by that guy & not this woman. If he can do it so can I. My unsubscribe offer is only in regard to whether we can make this a better site or not & is between Ed & me. Obviously, I upset this woman & do not blame her for the reaction if she did not know what all he said to me. If Ed would like me to unsubscribe I will do so. Regards, Ellen (ETHS) This is what she sent to me to one item in my letter to ED. Let's hope this communication is going to be constructive & for the good of the list. If not, I won't hesitate to unsubscribe myself. Regards, Ellen (ETHS) I take that as a promise... I hope you keep it Rose email: ellen@b-n-s.com Visit my web site: http://www.geocities.com/ellenj3

Paul G. VARGO, 82, of 424 N. Pittsburgh St., Connellsville, died Sunday at his home. He was born in Czechoslovakia, March 20, 1906, son of the late Paul G. and Mary Vargo Sr. He was a retired night watchman for Connellsville Sportswear. He was a member of Immaculate Conception RC Church and St. Stephen's Byzantine Catholic Church. Surviving are his wife, Veronica Marie Petko Vargo; two daughters, Patricia Ann Vargo, at home and Mrs. Benjamin (Debra) Breakiron of Connellsville; three grandchildren; three brothers, John of McClellandtown, Joseph of footedale and Frank of Atco, N.J., and two sisters, Sister Sylvestra, OSBM of Mount St. Macrina, Uniontown and Mrs. Josephine Shultz of McClellandtown. He was predeceased by a grandson, Benjamin Paul Breakiron and a sister, Margaret Vargo. (9/18/1988) Not related to me. Just sharing a resource. Carole Clarke

This list has been very helpful to me, and I don't want to unsubscribe yet due to the obits. I myself have contributed a few. But I'd like to make the following observation by quoting from the Rootsweb mailing list menu with descriptions: PAFAYETT-L Topic: Fayette County, Pennsylvania. PA-SW-OBITS-L Topic: A mailing list for anyone interested in sharing obituaries from south west Pennsylvania. This may include, but is not limited to, the counties of Greene, Washington, Fayette, Allegheny, and Westmoreland. PA-OBITS-L Topic: anyone who wants to share obituaries or request obituary lookups of Pennsylvania natives or former residents. If you are willing to do lookups for others, please monitor the list and respond to requests. If you are looking for information about a former resident or native Pennsylvanian, please post it to the list. Efforts requiring monetary compensation are not appropriate and discussions of monetary compensation will not be allowed. No copyrighted material will be posted without proof of copyright holders' permission. No information about living individuals will be posted. Louise Stanzione

Dear Listers, My apology to all of you, for sending a private e-mail to Ed going to the entire list. This has happened because of the return address. I forgot it was not going to his address. In any case, hope all take it in a constructive vein, if not, well that's the way it goes. My Best To All, Ellen (ETHS) email: ellen@b-n-s.com Visit my web site: http://www.geocities.com/ellenj3

Dear Ed, This is Ellen (ETHS) here & not Ellen Levy. I had just written a reply to the site after only reading part of the messages on here. I have no problem with the obits on here at all. However, I have noticed some things & would like to try to help you be constructive about the future of this site, which is a good one. Please read over what I wrote & maybe we can work together privately as people who know a bit more about what's going on, the purpose of the site, etc. You & I have disagreed more than once & I've come very close to unsubscribing. Also - on a personal note - people that don't know you very well react differently to remarks made on here. I know your heart is in the right place & that sometimes you are just trying to get the point across, but diplomacy & sugar works a lot better on the "nice people" on here. Save the "Make My Day" remarks for the private pains in the you know what! I'm saying this as a friendly senior citizen who has raised 5 children & have quite a few grandchildren. Also who has been a good leader in organizations in this state. I've received mail privately from some very nice people. You have really come off to some on here that have unsubscribed as being some kind of heavy-handed egositistical show-off who's trying to feel like "Da Boss" as I hear on here. If you are really a caring person about this site, you don't want to do that. It's not the right way to go at all. You can be firm but still be a perfect gentlemen about it & will certainly come off as a better leader for it. BTW - I think the term is List Master & not List Owner (or am I wrong). If you can tolerate Bailey/Yanick on here I think you must be a good friend of his. My opinion of him is very very low. Either he's low on the intelligence pole, a mental case, or just a plain obnoxious immature kid. Let's hope this communication is going to be constructive & for the good of the list. If not, I won't hesitate to unsubscribe myself. Regards, Ellen (ETHS) -----Original Message----- From: Edward [mailto:genedoc@icubed.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 3:33 PM To: PAFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAFAY] Obits- LISTEN UP!! Hi Ellen and others, The complaints about receiving obituaries on this list is a dead issue. I handled this properly last week, and the thread ended. I gave what options I knew existed. Those were the comprimises. Let this be a warning for all who want to keep harping about obituaries. They are on topic and perfectly acceptable for this list, and I am going to start unsubscribing anyone who fans the flames of this issue. I would imagine that three weeks in the reject hole should bring about a positive change in attitude. Make my day! Edward Dunlevy ----- Original Message ----- From: "ellen Levy" <ellenlevy66@yahoo.com> To: <PAFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [PAFAY] Obits > Hi Everyone. What I am finding in this discussion is a lack of compromise on the part of some people. > > Just because you find the obits useful or interesting does mean they are not cumbersome to others on this list. And just because you find the obits overwhelming or uninteresting doesn't mean that others aren't interested in receiving them regularly as a part of this list. There seems to be plenty of people in both of these camps. > > You all need to try to see a bit from the other's perspective and make some COMPROMISES (isn't this what all good relationships are about??!!)! I can't necessarily say what that compromise should be, but I think it would be proper for the administrator of this list to take everyone's opinions into consideration and decide what an appropriate compromise should be. > > Some of the compromise solutions that others have posted that may work: posting the obits only once a day, or maybe combining them in a few postings with some sort of index, so that people still receive them daily but they don't become cumbersome to those who aren't as interested. COMPROMISE. > > Please, people, we are all genealogists here -let's try to work respectfully together. > > Ellen > > Jo Gottman <kgottman1@cox.net> wrote: > NO NO NO I might find someone related to my GOTTMAN family. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: " JRuse" > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 9:23 AM > Subject: [PAFAY] Obits > > > > Today my mailbox held 30 messages from this list, of which 29 were obits. > > This is getting a bit excessive. Does anyone agree? > > > > Of course I can delete them. There must be some way to get them into an > > accessible archive than to post them on the list. > > > > Joan Ruse > > > > > > ==== PAFAYETT Mailing List ==== > > The Fayette County Genealogical Society- > http://www.hhs.net/sss/fayette/fcgsinfo.htm > > Fayette County Archives- > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/fayette/index.htm > > > > > > > > ==== PAFAYETT Mailing List ==== > The Uniontown Library NEW URL- http://www.uniontownlib.org/ > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! > > > ==== PAFAYETT Mailing List ==== > "Please remember to post your questions and answers to the list for > all to share". > > ==== PAFAYETT Mailing List ==== Southwestern Pennsylvania History Books Online- http://digital.library.pitt.edu/fulltext/index.html

Does anyone on the list know anything, or have any information, about Bunker Hill School? It was probably located near Gans in Springhill Township. My grandfather, Frank STENTZ, was a teacher there sometime around 1900. Thanks, Bob Barr

-------Original Message------- From: Bill & Nancy Miller Date: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 3:28:43 PM To: PAFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Thomas JOHNSON - James H. Johnson Hi, I'm looking for Thomas JOHNSON [great grandfather] James H. JOHNSON [grandfather] According to the word of mouth history of my family; the siblings in this family were; James, John, George, William and Joe. They came to Fayette Co. from Maryland. I found a JOHNSON family in Maryland, at www.familysearch.org Census place; Marshalls, Harford, Maryland-1880 US Census Family History Library Film 1254511 Na Film Number T9-0511 Page Number 166A The father is right, Thomas JOHNSON They have a son John JOHNSON They have a son James H. Johnson I need them to have a George, William, and Joe to be the family I'm looking for. If someone could find them on the next census maybe by then they will have a George, William, and a Joe. Thank you in advance, for all your help. As soon as we find my JOHNSON's and HAWK'S I'm done. Nancy

Hi Ellen and others, The complaints about receiving obituaries on this list is a dead issue. I handled this properly last week, and the thread ended. I gave what options I knew existed. Those were the comprimises. Let this be a warning for all who want to keep harping about obituaries. They are on topic and perfectly acceptable for this list, and I am going to start unsubscribing anyone who fans the flames of this issue. I would imagine that three weeks in the reject hole should bring about a positive change in attitude. Make my day! Edward Dunlevy ----- Original Message ----- From: "ellen Levy" <ellenlevy66@yahoo.com> To: <PAFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [PAFAY] Obits > Hi Everyone. What I am finding in this discussion is a lack of compromise on the part of some people. > > Just because you find the obits useful or interesting does mean they are not cumbersome to others on this list. And just because you find the obits overwhelming or uninteresting doesn't mean that others aren't interested in receiving them regularly as a part of this list. There seems to be plenty of people in both of these camps. > > You all need to try to see a bit from the other's perspective and make some COMPROMISES (isn't this what all good relationships are about??!!)! I can't necessarily say what that compromise should be, but I think it would be proper for the administrator of this list to take everyone's opinions into consideration and decide what an appropriate compromise should be. > > Some of the compromise solutions that others have posted that may work: posting the obits only once a day, or maybe combining them in a few postings with some sort of index, so that people still receive them daily but they don't become cumbersome to those who aren't as interested. COMPROMISE. > > Please, people, we are all genealogists here -let's try to work respectfully together. > > Ellen > > Jo Gottman <kgottman1@cox.net> wrote: > NO NO NO I might find someone related to my GOTTMAN family. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: " JRuse" > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 9:23 AM > Subject: [PAFAY] Obits > > > > Today my mailbox held 30 messages from this list, of which 29 were obits. > > This is getting a bit excessive. Does anyone agree? > > > > Of course I can delete them. There must be some way to get them into an > > accessible archive than to post them on the list. > > > > Joan Ruse > > > > > > ==== PAFAYETT Mailing List ==== > > The Fayette County Genealogical Society- > http://www.hhs.net/sss/fayette/fcgsinfo.htm > > Fayette County Archives- > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/fayette/index.htm > > > > > > > > ==== PAFAYETT Mailing List ==== > The Uniontown Library NEW URL- http://www.uniontownlib.org/ > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! > > > ==== PAFAYETT Mailing List ==== > "Please remember to post your questions and answers to the list for > all to share". > >

Dear Bernie, I do believe that Ed might have said that these obits he's putting on can also be accessed by going to the newspaper on-line. He can correct me if I'm wrong. Therefore, in case someone misses something they could check it out themselves. I did thin in NH for my aunt & uncle as they are archived on that newspaper in New England. Ellen (ETHS)

Dear Listers, The funny thing about the remarks I'm seeing on here is in regard to something that has crossed my mind in the last couple of months. It has become more evident that the obituary notices & just a few specific surnames have become almost all of what is appearing on this site with the exception of a few odd items now & then as I monitor the mailings. Now, please, this is not being critical of that because it's what genealogy is all about. I do see people on here sharing info back & forth on the aforementioned names & that is really a very positive thing. However, one cannot rely on just the listowner to be the contributor to the site. It takes a number of facets to really have an active one. Just like in all organizations there are the ups & downs over a yearly span. I've noticed that on some of the other roots sites there is hardly any activity at all, but they are still there. I can't help wonder what can be done to make this site & other ones more useful to more people. Don't you sometimes wonder how many are out there that are just taking in the news & not saying anything about their lines & might be hesitating on saying anything for one reason or another? I do have to mention that I've had private e-mails come to me about some of the "cutting remarks" some people make on here personally & know that more than once I've had others ask me to please not Unsubscribe from this list because of it. It makes me wonder how many people have done just that, so it seems to me that one of the first thing the regular readers of this list have to keep is "get a positive mind set & encourage others to keep "the good of the list" furthermost in their minds. With that said we need to move on to what to do to make it a better site. Now that the subject of the obituaries has been brought up, possibly Ed could think about a game plan to teach those on here how to easily access them, for future use, in the roots archives. Most people do not know how to use that archives at all. I guess this paragraph is now in his little corner of the world to address to all in the best way he can. I'd like to see Ed give a little instruction info on her for new people to use the archives to search for earlier material. Let's move on to other ideas. I've never pushed on any site for a "roll call" on any roots site. That's up to the list master as far as I'm concerned, but I do have a suggestion. I'll use myself as an example. If I just say on here that I'm interested in the names Reese, Lichty, Farquhar, Moss doesn't tell anyone much. It might be more useful if I said something brief on each, like in a query as: I'm back as far as a Mary Reese, daughter of George Reese of Saltlick Twp., Fayette County. Mary married Jonathan D. Lichty. She died about 1849 & her grave is not marked but said to be in a specific one in Somerset County. Jonathan later married again & is buried in the old Garrett Union Cem. in Someerset with his wife. He is said to be the son of David Lichty & Catherine (most likely Bittner). George Reese had a son Hambright Reese & this may be significant in further ancestery on the Reese name. One George Reese who married Rachel Hambright is found in eastern PA records. Anyone interested in these particular branches for research on the family names is encouraged to write to me off the list, then we can share future findings with the list on the progress made. Another thing is general material that might help in area research. That's covering a lot. If we do that it should be organized like the Fayette Wills that were contributed on here by Robert in groups. When someone sends things 1 at a time is not as desirable in my book. There's a lot more that can be done but let's just give this a little time & think it over. Enjoy the sun being out today. Let's hope the next blast to come through will be the last big one for the winter. Think Spring! Regards, Ellen (ETHS) email: ellen@b-n-s.com Visit my web site: http://www.geocities.com/ellenj3

Just a suggestion? An easy way to deal with 'problem' emails of any type that you don't want to open to read--click on one and then hold down on the shift key while scrolling down (using the down arrow button or your mouse) over the entire list you don't want to bother with. All of them should 'light up' or darken, or be checkmarked, whatever your particular email package does. Lift up on the mouse or the down arrow key when you're at the end of those you want to delete. Then press DELETE. Zap, gone, all 25 or two hundred at once. Takes about five seconds. Tammy Moon

Im not trying to start any problems here, but nobody seems to complain when they obits benefit them... you cant expect to find stuff on the list that will make everyone happy everyday... how hard it is really to hit the delete button if the subject line doesnt interest you? I say thank you to all those who are sending in obits... keep up the good work. Christina In a message dated 2/4/2004 11:06:49 AM Central Standard Time, IRAY@msn.com writes: > I agree; the 'Fayette County genealogy' list has become the 'random > obituary list'. > > Ray Boniker > > > Today my mailbox held 30 messages from this list, of which 29 were obits. > This is getting a bit excessive. Does anyone agree? Of course I can delete > them. There must be some way to get them into an accessible archive than to > post them on the list. > > Joan Ruse >

I live a long way from Fayette County. Many of the families named in the obits I knew personally. I don't mind the obits. Try stopping the 30 ads for porno and viagara then you will space on your mail box.. Grant

NO NO NO I might find someone related to my GOTTMAN family. ----- Original Message ----- From: " JRuse" <jeriehle@Comcast.net> To: <PAFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 9:23 AM Subject: [PAFAY] Obits > Today my mailbox held 30 messages from this list, of which 29 were obits. > This is getting a bit excessive. Does anyone agree? > > Of course I can delete them. There must be some way to get them into an > accessible archive than to post them on the list. > > Joan Ruse > > > ==== PAFAYETT Mailing List ==== > The Fayette County Genealogical Society- http://www.hhs.net/sss/fayette/fcgsinfo.htm > Fayette County Archives- http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/fayette/index.htm > >

Hi Everyone. What I am finding in this discussion is a lack of compromise on the part of some people. Just because you find the obits useful or interesting does mean they are not cumbersome to others on this list. And just because you find the obits overwhelming or uninteresting doesn't mean that others aren't interested in receiving them regularly as a part of this list. There seems to be plenty of people in both of these camps. You all need to try to see a bit from the other's perspective and make some COMPROMISES (isn't this what all good relationships are about??!!)! I can't necessarily say what that compromise should be, but I think it would be proper for the administrator of this list to take everyone's opinions into consideration and decide what an appropriate compromise should be. Some of the compromise solutions that others have posted that may work: posting the obits only once a day, or maybe combining them in a few postings with some sort of index, so that people still receive them daily but they don't become cumbersome to those who aren't as interested. COMPROMISE. Please, people, we are all genealogists here -let's try to work respectfully together. Ellen Jo Gottman <kgottman1@cox.net> wrote: NO NO NO I might find someone related to my GOTTMAN family. ----- Original Message ----- From: " JRuse" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 9:23 AM Subject: [PAFAY] Obits > Today my mailbox held 30 messages from this list, of which 29 were obits. > This is getting a bit excessive. Does anyone agree? > > Of course I can delete them. There must be some way to get them into an > accessible archive than to post them on the list. > > Joan Ruse > > > ==== PAFAYETT Mailing List ==== > The Fayette County Genealogical Society- http://www.hhs.net/sss/fayette/fcgsinfo.htm > Fayette County Archives- http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/fayette/index.htm > > ==== PAFAYETT Mailing List ==== The Uniontown Library NEW URL- http://www.uniontownlib.org/ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!

I personally enjoy receiving the obituaries on the list. They are clearly marked so if they do not apply to your family they can be easily deleted. It is on topic and valuable information for those who may not be able to access this information otherwise. I wish all lists had dedicated researchers who took the time to post their finds. Mercedes Pruitt Researching Cole, Perkins, Grace, Thoene, Lane, Thacker, Pruitt, Mitchem and related familes ----- Original Message ----- From: " JRuse" <jeriehle@Comcast.net> To: <PAFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 10:23 AM Subject: [PAFAY] Obits > Today my mailbox held 30 messages from this list, of which 29 were obits. > This is getting a bit excessive. Does anyone agree? > > Of course I can delete them. There must be some way to get them into an > accessible archive than to post them on the list. > > Joan Ruse > > > ==== PAFAYETT Mailing List ==== > The Fayette County Genealogical Society- http://www.hhs.net/sss/fayette/fcgsinfo.htm > Fayette County Archives- http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/fayette/index.htm >

Joan. This is a genealogical forum and obits are of a great help to all. Just hit your delete button. For some of us obits fill in many blanks that are not accessable to us other than through this forum. I live in Southeastern Pa exactly 288 miles from Connellsville and it is one heck of a drive to Connellsville just to do some lookups when quite a bit of info comes out of this site online. This has been discussed before. Bernie.