This is a message I just read that was posted by Ellen Ballas, I have made no comments about the obits posted here on the list, HOWEVER I FEEL IT GREAT THAT THEY ARE BEING POSTED! However this person Ellen Ballas has gone to far in posting this message and making comments toward me on this list! Ellen Ballas need to remove herself from this list, if she can't take the heat in the kitchen, meaning the obits should stay and Ellen Balls should leave! John Yanik ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ellen Ballas" <ellen@b-n-s.com> To: <PAFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 3:57 PM Subject: RE: [PAFAY] Obits- LISTEN UP!! > Dear Ed, > This is Ellen (ETHS) here & not Ellen Levy. I had just > written a reply to the site after only reading part of the > messages on here. I have no problem with the obits on here > at all. However, I have noticed some things & would like to > try to help you be constructive about the future of this > site, which is a good one. Please read over what I wrote & > maybe we can work together privately as people who know a > bit more about what's going on, the purpose of the site, > etc. You & I have disagreed more than once & I've come very > close to unsubscribing. > > Also - on a personal note - people that don't know you very > well react differently to remarks made on here. I know your > heart is in the right place & that sometimes you are just > trying to get the point across, but diplomacy & sugar works > a lot better on the "nice people" on here. Save the "Make > My Day" remarks for the private pains in the you know what! > I'm saying this as a friendly senior citizen who has raised > 5 children & have quite a few grandchildren. Also who has > been a good leader in organizations in this state. > I've received mail privately from some very nice people. > You have really come off to some on here that have > unsubscribed as being some kind of heavy-handed > egositistical show-off who's trying to feel like "Da Boss" > as I hear on here. If you are really a caring person about > this site, you don't want to do that. It's not the right > way to go at all. You can be firm but still be a perfect > gentlemen about it & will certainly come off as a better > leader for it. BTW - I think the term is List Master & not > List Owner (or am I wrong). If you can tolerate > Bailey/Yanick on here I think you must be a good friend of > his. My opinion of him is very very low. Either he's low > on the intelligence pole, a mental case, or just a plain > obnoxious immature kid. > Let's hope this communication is going to be constructive > & for the good of the list. If not, I won't hesitate to > unsubscribe myself. > Regards, Ellen (ETHS) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Edward [mailto:genedoc@icubed.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 3:33 PM > To: PAFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PAFAY] Obits- LISTEN UP!! > > > Hi Ellen and others, > > The complaints about receiving > obituaries on this list > is a dead issue. I handled this properly last week, and the > thread ended. I > gave what options I knew existed. Those were the > comprimises. > > Let this be a warning for all who want > to keep harping > about obituaries. They are on topic and perfectly acceptable > for this list, > and I am going to start unsubscribing anyone who fans the > flames of this > issue. I would imagine that three weeks in the reject hole > should bring > about a positive change in attitude. > > Make my day! > > > Edward Dunlevy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ellen Levy" <ellenlevy66@yahoo.com> > To: <PAFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 2:53 PM > Subject: Re: [PAFAY] Obits > > > > Hi Everyone. What I am finding in this discussion is a > lack of compromise > on the part of some people. > > > > Just because you find the obits useful or interesting does > mean they are > not cumbersome to others on this list. And just because you > find the obits > overwhelming or uninteresting doesn't mean that others > aren't interested in > receiving them regularly as a part of this list. There > seems to be plenty > of people in both of these camps. > > > > You all need to try to see a bit from the other's > perspective and make > some COMPROMISES (isn't this what all good relationships are > about??!!)! I > can't necessarily say what that compromise should be, but I > think it would > be proper for the administrator of this list to take > everyone's opinions > into consideration and decide what an appropriate compromise > should be. > > > > Some of the compromise solutions that others have posted > that may work: > posting the obits only once a day, or maybe combining them > in a few postings > with some sort of index, so that people still receive them > daily but they > don't become cumbersome to those who aren't as interested. > COMPROMISE. > > > > Please, people, we are all genealogists here -let's try to > work > respectfully together. > > > > Ellen > > > > Jo Gottman <kgottman1@cox.net> wrote: > > NO NO NO I might find someone related to my GOTTMAN > family. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: " JRuse" > > To: > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 9:23 AM > > Subject: [PAFAY] Obits > > > > > > > Today my mailbox held 30 messages from this list, of > which 29 were > obits. > > > This is getting a bit excessive. Does anyone agree? > > > > > > Of course I can delete them. There must be some way to > get them into an > > > accessible archive than to post them on the list. > > > > > > Joan Ruse > > > > > > > > > ==== PAFAYETT Mailing List ==== > > > The Fayette County Genealogical Society- > > http://www.hhs.net/sss/fayette/fcgsinfo.htm > > > Fayette County Archives- > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/fayette/index.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PAFAYETT Mailing List ==== > > The Uniontown Library NEW URL- > http://www.uniontownlib.org/ > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! > > > > > > ==== PAFAYETT Mailing List ==== > > "Please remember to post your questions and answers to the > list for > > all to share". > > > > > > > ==== PAFAYETT Mailing List ==== > Southwestern Pennsylvania History Books Online- > http://digital.library.pitt.edu/fulltext/index.html > > > ==== PAFAYETT Mailing List ==== > "You Have a Friend in Fayette County, Pennsylvania"! > >

To everyone here on this list, I just got on line after working 16 hours and now I find more usless messages from Ellen Ballas on this list! First of all the obits are very helpful, I have cut and pasted more obits into my files due to the work that Ed has done by posting the obits on the list. Agan the obits are very helpful! And if you look at what is being posted on this list, messages that have nothing to do with family research, just someone cutting down people (Meaning Ellen Ballas) This list was intended to share information, not make it a busybody list! If Ellen Ballas feels the way she does then she should REMOVE HERSELF FROM THE LIST, and leave people alone, leave people have their right to make comments. Indivduals who have made comments about obits on this list, only one person directed comments toward me, and I wasn't in this loop of comments about obits, That person agan was Ellen Ballas. Agan maybe Ellen Ballas needs to remove herself from the list, since she cant seem to keep her mind on research, she has to run off track attacking people and and every chance she can. This list is for people who are doing family research! Something that Ellen Ballas can't seem to remember! As weeks go by there is no rude comments on this list and then there is Ellen Ballas with her comments. Ellen Ballas why don't you leave the list, you have stated you would, then do it, Maybe you can then spend your time with your grandchildren! John Yanik PS Ellen don't bother to reply to this message!

Hello List, I have an old old picture of 4 men and a young child that I would like for someone to look at to see if they can identify the location of the picture. It looks to be a studio but there are no names or dates on the photo. It is on the hard board backing that was used back in the 1800's. If you are familiar with old studio's and old photographs and would not mind taking a look at it, I would be most grateful. Jo Gottman

Hello All, My McGOWAN & DULL family lived in Fayette City& washington TWP in the early 1900's anyone have any good sites to search for marriages or land records, wills , military records if anyone has books for lookups would appreciate the help, Sherry

Have those that are complaining about full mailboxes due to multiple postings considered unsubscribing to list mode and re-subscribing in digest mode? This way you only have one email a day and after opening it and reading the subject line if you don't see a name that you are interested in then you can delete one message instead of 20. I personally am very interested in the obits since I do not live in that area. Karen Kessler Cottrill WV Kessler/Kesler/Keslar Family Historian

Henry B. "Punch" BELL, III, 46, of 1649 Oak Knoll, Southeast, in Warren, Ohio, a Veteran of the United States Army, who was employed by Briarfield of Cortland, Ohio, and was born in Waynesburg, Pa., died Friday, January 30, 2004 from carbon monoxide in Saint Joseph Medical Center, Warren, Ohio. He is survived by his father, Henry B. BELL, II, of Brownsville, Pa.; his mother, Ruth Ann Bell, of Marianna, Pa.; his wife, Annah A. Bell; a son, Maceo B. H. B. Bell I ,of Daisytown, Pa.; daughters: Lisa Marie Fuller, of Virginia Beach, Virginia, Bethel Clestine Gaines, of Uniontown, Pa., Sophia A. Bell, of Daisytown, Pa., Noreen Y. Whitlock, Melanie Eliza Porter, and Stacey Lynn Porter, all of Warren, Ohio; eight grandchildren; brothers: Duane BELL, of Marianna, Pa., Curtiss BELL, of North Carolina, Pierre BELL,of Erie, Pa., and Eric BELL, of New York; sisters: Andrea BELL, Tammy BELL, Vanessa BELL and Monica BELL, all of Marianna, Pa.; and step siblings: Kevin Valentino, of North Carolina, Ricardo Valentino and Todd Valentino, both of Lancaster, Pa., and Lee Lee Valentino, of Brownville, Pa. The Family will receive Friends at Triedstone Baptist Church, Warren, Ohio, today, Friday, February 6, from 10 a.m. until the Service at 12 Noon. Arrangements are under direction of the Sibley-Murray Funeral Home, 1307 North Park Avenue, Warren, Ohio 44483. Unrelated to me. Just sharing a resource. Edward DUNLEVY

Gerald David HINES, age 79, of Uniontown, Pa., passed away Friday morning, February 5, 2004 in his home with his loving Family by his side. He was born April 10, 1924 in Uniontown, Pa., son of James HINES and Alice RICKETSON Hines. Gerald was a Partner/Owner of Tudor-Oliver Construction Company for many years with his partner, the late Sidney Lishnoff. He was a Veteran of the United States Navy where he was a Pharmacist Mate 1st Class who served during World War II in both the Atlantic and Pacific. Three sisters, Madge Crum, Mildred Wiltrout, Vivian HINES, a brother, Harry HINES, and parents preceded him in death. Gerald is survived by is beloved Wife of 60 years, Betty Jane HILL Hines; Daughters: Carol L. Bubonovich, of Uniontown, and Vivian I. Tressler and her husband, Darrell, of Uniontown; Grandsons: Gerald David Bubonovich and wife Vicki and Nicolas Bubonovich III and wife Kelly; Great Grandchildren: Kaelin Bubonovich, Marcus Bubonovich and Maggi Bubonovich; and a nephew, Harry Hines of Uniontown. Friends will be received in the STEPHEN E. KEZMARSKY III FUNERAL HOME AT 71 PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE, UNIONTOWN, Pa., today from 2 to 4 and 7 to 9 p.m. and Saturday, February 7, until 10 a.m., the hour of Service with the Rev. Galen Winebrenner officiating. Interment will follow in Sylvan Heights Cemetery, Uniontown, Pa., where Military Honors will be accorded by General George C. Marshall AMVETS Post 103 of Hopwood, Pa. Unrelated to me. Just sharing a resource. Edward DUNLEVY

Donald W. LILLEY, 75, of Jeffries Crossing, Uniontown, Pa., passed away Wednesday, February 4, 2004 in the Uniontown Hospital. He was born November 11, 1928 at Jeffries Crossing, Uniontown, Pa., son of Albert LILLEY and Ann RICE Lilley. Don was a member of First Christian Church in New Salem, Pa., a Veteran of the Korean Conflict, and a member of V.F.W. Post No. 47 and American Legion Post 51 both in Uniontown and the Bedford, Pa., Elks. Two brothers, Albert LILLEY, Jr. and William LILLEY, and parents preceded him in death. He is survived by one sister, Betty Gorley, of Uniontown. Friends will be received in the DEARTH FUNERAL HOME, 35 South Mill Street, New Salem, Pa., today after 7 p.m., Saturday from 2 to 4 and 7 to 9 p.m. and Sunday, February 8, until 1:30 p.m., the hour of Service with Pastor Andy Miles officiating. Interment will follow in Sansom Chapel Cemetery, Farmington, Pa. Unrelated to me. Just sharing a resource. Edward DUNLEVY

Regina KERN Jacobs, 84, of Uniontown, Pa., went to be with her Lord on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 from Uniontown Hospital. She was born January 26, 1920 in Uniontown, Pa., daughter of Curtis and Mayme SHAFFER KERN. She was preceded in death by her husband, Charles E. JACOBS, Sr., in 1967, two sons, Carl JACOBS and Charles E. JACOBS, Jr., a granddaughter, Debbie Light, brothers, Merle KERN and Thomas KERN, sisters, Elizabeth KERN and Ida Mae KERN, and parents. Regina was a Cook and Custodian with Laurel Highlands School District for 20 years before retiring. She was a Democratic Committee Woman for 30 years in North Union Township District 2. Regina was a lifetime member of Cove Run Free Methodist Church. Surviving are the following children: Ruthann Baker, of Norfolk, Virginia, and Curtis JACOBS and wife, Patricia, of Lemont Furnace, Pa.; a daughter-in-law, Linda Jacobs, of Ottsville, Pa.; a brother, Carl KERN, of Allison Park, Pa.; a sister, Ruth Atkinson, of Hopwood, Pa.; seven grandchildren: Carl, Terri Sue, Joanne, Jim, Ty, Brad and Tara; six great-grandchildren: Heather, Shelby, Regina, William, Josh and Jason; nieces and nephews. Friends will be received in the BURHANS-CROUSE FUNERAL HOME, 28 Connellsville Street, Dunbar, Pa., today from 2 to 4 and 6 to 9 p.m. Visitation continues in Cove Run Free Methodist Church on Saturday, February 7, from 10 to 11 a.m. Services will begin at 11 a.m. with Pastor Roger Yeager officiating. Interment will be in Sylvan Heights Cemetery, Uniontown, Pa. Unrelated to me. Just sharing a resource. Edward DUNLEVY

Albert S. OPRENCHALK, age 77, of Uniontown, Pa., passed away on Wednesday, February 4, 2004 in Uniontown Hospital. He was born February 28, 1926 in Jacobs Creek, Pa., the son of Stephen and Margaret MUHU OPRENCHALK. He was a parts Manager for Kenny Ross Chevrolet for many years. He was also a member of Saint Mary (Nativity) Roman Catholic Church in Uniontown. He was predeceased by his sister, Anna Nicholish and Lillian Kampasky, his brother-in-law, Albert KAMPASKY, and parents. He is survived by his beloved wife, Elizabeth J. Mc CARTHNEY. He is also survived by a niece, Dr. Joyce Kampasky, of Philadelphia, Pa., and a nephew, Nicholas Nicholish, of Clairton, Pa. Friends will be received in the STEPHEN R. HAKY FUNERAL HOME INC. AT SYLVAN HEIGHTS CEMETERY, A Dignity Memorial Provider, 603 North Gallatin Avenue Extension, Uniontown, Pa., today from 2 to 4 and 7 to 9 p.m. and Saturday, February 7, until 9:30 a.m. when Prayers will be said. A Mass of Christian Burial follows at 10 a.m. in Saint Mary (Nativity) Roman Catholic Church, North Mount Vernon Avenue, Uniontown, Pa., with Rev. Father Micah E. Kozoil as Celebrant. Interment will follow in Sylvan Heights Cemetery, Uniontown, Pa. Unrelated to me. Just sharing a resource. Edward DUNLEVY

Mary A. Franco Smith, 95, of Brownsville, Pa., passed away on Thursday, February 5, 2004 in the Uniontown Hospital, Uniontown, Pa. She was born on October 11, 1908 in Revere, Fayette County, Pa., daughter of Francisco and Josephine PUGLIA FRANCO. Mrs. Smith was a lifelong member of The Historic Church of Saint Peter in Brownsville, Pa., and a member of Saint Peter's Confraternity of Christian Mothers. Mary graduated from Saint Peter's School and also Brownsville High School, and received a teaching degree from California Normal School (now California University of Pennsylvania). She taught in the Brownsville Area School District for 38 years. Mrs. Smith was a past Democratic Committeewoman in Brownsville and was active in politics for many years. She was a popular public speaker and was very proud of her "Flag Speech", which she presented to many veteran and civic groups. She was invited to present the speech to the Pennsylvania State House of Representatives in Harrisburg in the 1980s and to The West Virginia American Ex-Prisoners of War Convention in 1997. Mary was a great inspiration to her family, friends and many students throughout the years! Her Husband, Michael SMITH, a Son, John SMITH, four Sisters, Antoinette, Theresa, Della, Gina, one Brother, Larry Franks, and Parents preceded her in death. She is survived by three Sons: Michael SMITH and his wife, Annette, Brownsville, Pa., Francis SMITH and his wife, Jeanine, Smock, Pa., and Larry SMITH and his wife, Marcia, Greenville, South Carolina; seven Grandchildren: Theresa Battaglini and her husband Mark, Jennifer SMITH, Michael SMITH, Andria SMITH, Francis SMITH, Patrick SMITH, Christy SMITH; one Great Granddaughter, Lindsey Battaglini; Sister-in-Law, Annabel Franks, Brownsville, Pa.; Niece, JoAnn Arminas, of Uniontown, Pa.; Nephew, Larry Franks, II, of Brownsville, Pa.; close Family Friend, Alma Vechnak; also several great nieces and great nephews. Friends will be received in the SKIRPAN FUNERAL HOME, 135 Park Street, Brownsville, Pa., today from 2 to 9 p.m. where a Prayer Service will be held Saturday, February 7, at 9:30 a.m. A Funeral Mass follows at 10 a.m. in The Historic Church of Saint Peter in Brownsville, Pa., with Rev. Fr. Vincent Gigliotti as Celebrant. Interment will follow in Saint Peter's Roman Catholic Cemetery. Brownsville Sons of Italy Men's Lodge will conduct a Service in the Funeral Home today at 4 p.m. Saint Peter's Christian Mothers will recite the Rosary today at 5 p.m. In lieu of flowers, the family has asked that donations be made in Mary's name to: Cooley's Anemia Foundation National Office, 129-09 26th Avenue, Suite 203, Flushing, NY 11354. Unrelated to me. Just sharing a resource. Edward DUNLEVY

John POPOVICH, 85, of Charleroi, Pa., died Tuesday, February 3, 2004 in Monongahela Valley Hospital Inc., Carroll Township, Pa. He was born March 6, 1918 in Monessen, Pa., son of John POPOVICH and Anna PORCHONICK Popovich. He was a member of Saint Mary Byzantine Catholic Church in Monessen and the P.S.E.R. Mr. Popovich was a United States Army Veteran. A standout football player for Monessen High School, John went on to play football for Saint Vincent College, Latrobe, Pa., and the Pittsburgh Steelers during the 1944 and 1945 seasons. Mr. Popovich also had coached the following teams: Brownsville High, Waynesburg College, Atlantic City Senators, Wheeling Ironmen and the Washington Mustangs. Mr. Popovich's devotion to football earned him induction to the Mid-Mon Valley Hall of Fame in 1999. He was an employee of Brownsville Area High School who taught Biology, Science, and Driver's Education prior to his retirement. Mr. Popovich was preceded in death by a son, John POPOVICH, and parents. Surviving are his wife, Agnes BOGDAN Popovich; Grandson, Jonathan POPOVICH, Daughter-in-Law, Shirley; a brother, Mike and Ann Popovich, of Monessen, Pa.; Nephew, Tom Bogdan and wife, Joan, of Ohio; and Sister-in-Law, Mrs. Nick (Millie) Cole, of Donora, Pa. Friends will be received at the RHOME FUNERAL HOME INC., A Golden Rule Funeral Home, 1209 Grand Boulevard, Monessen, PA 15062 today from 2 to 4 and 7 to 9 p.m. where a Blessing Service will be held Saturday, February 7, at 10 a.m. Divine Liturgy follows at 10:30 a.m. in Saint Mary Byzantine Catholic Church, Monessen, Pa. Interment will follow in Saint Mary's Cemetery, Monessen, Pa. Parish Rosary will be recited in the Funeral Home today at 2 p.m. The Services for The Dead will be conducted today at 7 p.m. Unrelated to me. Just sharing a resource. Edward DUNLEVY

Elizabeth ROHALL Patek, age 94, of Dunbar, Pa., passed away Sunday morning, January 4, 2004 in LaFayette Manor Inc., Uniontown, Pa. She was born May 30, 1909 in Uzgorod, Czechoslovakia, the daughter of Michael ROHALL and Veronica CIRIBAU Rohall. Elizabeth was a member of Saint John Evangelist Roman Catholic Church in Connellsville, Pa., and also attended Saint Stephen Byzantine Catholic Church in Leisenring, Pa. Her beloved husband, Michael PATEK, died June 1, 1968. Also deceased are their son, Matthew PATEK, brothers and sisters, George ROHALL, Andy ROHALL, Mary Rayner, Veronica Crapp, Helen Stashick, granddaughters, Joann Novak Bozak and Sandra Lee Patek, daughter-in-law, Sarah Sheranko Patek, son-in-law, Joseph Uhal, and parents. She is survived by her loving children: Margaret Novak and husband, George, of Uniontown, Pa., Betty Uhal, of McKeesport, Pa., Ann Hvizdos and husband, Thomas, of Cleveland, Ohio, Andrew PATEK, of McClellandtown, Pa., Marie Lekavich and husband, Leonard, of Lemont Furnace, Pa., George PATEK and wife, Donna, of Bitner, Pa., John PATEK and wife, Chris, of Uniontown, Pa., Stephen PATEK and wife, Sharane, of Abingdon, Maryland, and Bernadette Stash and husband, Donald, of Waltersburg, Pa.; 25 Grandchildren; 38 Great Grandchildren, three Great-Great Grandchildren; one sister, Anna ROHALL Zelinsky, of Uniontown, Pa.; several nieces and nephews. Family will receive Friends in the STEPHEN E. KEZMARSKY III FUNERAL HOME AT 71 PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE, UNIONTOWN, Pa., today from 7 to 9 p.m., Wednesday from 2 to 5 and 7 to 9 p.m. and Thursday, January 8, until 9:45 a.m., when Prayers of Transfer will be said. A Mass of Christian Burial follows at 10:30 a.m., in Saint John Evangelist Roman Catholic Church, West Crawford Avenue, Connellsville, Pa., with the Rev. Fr. John A. Butler as Celebrant. Interment will follow in Brookvale Cemetery, Connellsville, Pa. Parish Wake Service will be held in the Funeral Home on Wednesday at 3 p.m. Unrelated to me. Just sharing a resource. Edward DUNLEVY

The LINK was a newsletter sent out to the servicemen who were members of the South Brownsville Methodist Church. It contained hometown news about people. MARGARET C. JOHNSTON, daughter of MR. aand MRS. R.D. JOHNSTON, became the bride of BLYTHE A. "BUGS" BOWDEN, son of Mr. and Mrs. B.A. BOWDEN on Thanksgiving evening in the Central Presbyterian Church with the Rev. Howard RYALL officiating. THELMA FIELDS was married to JOHN EMERY on Nov. 24, 1945. The bride is the daughter of Mr. and Mrs. E. G. FIELDS and the bridegroom is the son of GEORGE EMERY of Donora. The ceremony was performed in St. Michael's Catholic Church in Donora. The new MRS. EMERY has been employed by West Penn Power Co. in Brownsville and MR. EMERY was recently discharged from the Army after 4 years of service, 25 months having been spent overseas in Europe. While in Germany, he was wounded twice and received the Purple Heart and Oak Leaf Cluster. MISS FLORENCE ONDER, St. Louis, and ALBERT J. MOFFITT, son of MR. and MRS. WILBUR MOFFITT were married in St. Louis on Nov. 10. The bridegroom was recently discharged from the service after having served in the Mediterreanean Area. On Saturday, Dec. 1, MISS MILDRED LAWTON and JOHN HAGER were united in marriage at the home of the bride by Rev. KEIFER. These folks are former parishioners of Rev. KEIFER at Canonsburg. On the same morning, Dec. 1, 1945, REV. KEIFER officiated at the marriage of GEORGE BURNETTE and MURIEL PETERSON, at the home of the bridegroom on Cadwallader St., Brownsville. Both grooms were recently discharged from the service. HOWARD J. CRAWFORD has ended 49 years of service with the railroad, 42 of them with the Monongahela Railway. He was the oldest employee on the clerk's roster of the company. At present he is residing with his son and daughter-in-law, MR. and MRS. WILBUR CRAWFORD, on High St. Another son, R.E. CRAWFORD, resides on High St. and a brother, WILLIAM D. resides on Second St. DR. and MRS. S.W. HUSTON recently talked by phone to their son, THOMAS, who is stationed in Switzerland. The "Purple Heart" awarded posthumously to Lt. FRANCIS McGRADY, was presented to his wife, MRS. ELEANOR McGRADY, following a declaration by the War Department that he was killed in action over Germany, Feb. 16, 1945. MRS. JOHN FORD, and children, OPAL, RITA, JOHN, and MRS. NAN DANDROA and son, GARY WAYNE, have gone to Barstow, California, when they will make their home. MR. FORD is employed by the Atchison-Topeka and Santa Fe Railroad. Bob WHETZEL wrote a note to the Link Staff thanking them for the copies of the Link sent to him in the 13 months he was in the Pacific. He was sent to 13 islands. His job was to supply land supplies via pontoon barges. He states they were headed for Japan when V.J. Day came. Parents of members of the Methodist Youth Fellowship were guests at a dinner meeting last Sunday with over 60 members attending. MALCOLM CRAWFORD, president, served as chairman of the program. The devotional period was conducted by RUTH LAUGHERY. Others taking part were DON WINSON and KEITH SPROUSE. JUDITH ANN DINGLE, daughter of MR. and MRS. JAMES DINGLE was baptized, Dec. 16, 1945. RICHARD NEIL ZOLLER and ROBERT SCOTT ZOLLER, twin sons of MR. and MRS. M. I. ZOLLER were recently baptized in the church. MRS. ZOLLER is the former IMOGENE PATTERSON, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. O. M. PATTERSON, High St. Hannah Millward Fisher Information Services Librarian Hannah@ahsl.arizona.edu The University of Arizona (520) 626-2933 (voice) Arizona Health Sciences Library 1501 N. Campbell, P.O. Box 245079 (520) 626-2922 (fax) Tucson, AZ 85724-5079 "The statements expressed herein are my own and should not be taken as a position, opinion or endorsement of the University of Arizona."

For the Gribble researchers. I ran across this web site with a lot of Gribble family members. Don't know if it will be of any use, but it is worth a look. http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:EPPfHiJo_t4J:www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pointe/6047/rogers/index3.html+moats+emerson+preston++genealogy+west+virginia&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 Dawne

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C,mon people..."where is the love?" You're making me sad and turning perhaps the youngest person on this list cynical. Can't we please stop the bickering and get back to helping one another find our ancestors? Susan

Dear Listers, I thought I'd mention a resource that many of the younger researches may never have heard about. Back around the end of the 1940's a simple magazine type of issue was created by a lady named Frances Strong Helman who was the Editor of it. The copyright was in her name & Beulah Heffelfinger. All rigths reserved. Address: 1082 Maple Street, Indiana, PA It was issued Bi-Monthly. I believe the later editions were indexed. This lady has been gone a long time now but there is an Indiana County Historical Society & they most likely have all the issues. Of course, they would charge for research, but I would imagine that one might go there to do research if they are lucky enough to be able to get that way. The point is that good records for research was placed in these issues for many different counties & let's face it. The people who wound up in Fayette County didn't parachutte in! You will find wills, tax records, immigrants material, queries etc. etc. in these issues for a number of diffent PA counties early. Therefore, if you need earlier material it's another source to look into. You might check the PA Room in Uniontown Library to see if they have any of the copies or someone on here may have run across them. Regards, Ellen (ETHS) email: ellen@b-n-s.com Visit my web site: http://www.geocities.com/ellenj3

Dear Listers: There is more than one Ellen on this list. When I sign my name on here it is done this way. Ellen (ETHS) There is another Ellen on this list that just uses. Ellen Now to clear this matter up. I have NOT Complained about the obits being on this list at all. I did state that we needed to Add More Kinds Of Resources To This List Besides Obits. What the heck is wrong with that. More resources, more lineage help. Hope this clears that up once and for all. Besides, Ed said he wanted an end to this obit discussion. I'd say it's about time too. Ellen (ETHS) email: ellen@b-n-s.com Visit my web site: http://www.geocities.com/ellenj3

It might be an idea to keep posting the obits to the list, but do them in batches, much as Hannah does with her Scrapbook excerpts. If she itemized each clipping with a separate posting, it too would get cumbersome. She manages to put all surname mentions in the subject header for easy access. No one misses any data, and the mailbox volume is reduced. I for one would hate to miss something of use to me that I'd otherwise never see. I know there are many listers who value the obits, and posting them does take a lot of effort. My own mailbox capacity is pretty big, and deleting is certainly not a problem, but there are some listers whose boxes can only take but so much. Seems like a way that would please most folks. A lot of egos seem to be getting bruised on this list, and that's not the usual focus of Rootsweb mailing lists. The level of "flaming" is getting out of hand. David in Richmond