A another consideration in choosing whether to use "Notes" or "Other Events" In the reports you print from your PAF database, this decision will be important to the results. "Other Events" are printed in date order with all other events (Birth, death, etc.) on the family group record, book report, web pages, etc. "Notes" are printed following the individual or family. "Other Events" will use the words in the descriptors that are defined in the "Other Events" edit screen. In "Notes", you are able to use your own words and explanations. I have used "Other Events", but have found that too many of them will foul up a family group record if you have too many and cause a page overflow. In addition to the "Other Events" for an individual, there are "Other Events" for marriages that work the same way. Also dates can be ranges in "Other Events" such as "From Jun 1995 to Dec 2004" for occupations, etc. These can cause problems in formatting on the family group record if the get too long. Don Engstrom ----- Original Message ----- From: Stewart Millar<mailto:sm999@tiscali.co.uk> To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 8:13 AM Subject: RE: [PAF-5] Missing Children, Occupations, and Graduations Carolyn, The OCCUPATION event is only in the Individual Edit Screen because it has been optionally added there for a specific individual(From the Individual Edit Screen > Options > New Event/Attribute then highlighting the event - Occupation - and press the select button) or has been included in the creation of the template you are using for your data entry. Three further point to bear in mind: 1. You can add as many additional Occupation events as you wish for any given individual. 2. Before selecting an event to add - instead of first pressing the select button, if you first press the edit button - you will then have an optional choice of detail to include about the selected event - the use of date, place and description (similar choices are available in creating the data entry template) and whether or not to keep the event confidential. 3. Unwanted optional events can be deleted by (from the Options button) placing the cursor on a field associated with the event and taking the Remove Event/Attribute option. However - this should only be done after any data entered in any of these fields for all individuals in your data base have been individually deleted (don't ask!!!!!). Template events can only be deleted by Template maintenance. But ----- a big BUT in my view, is that whilst a large number of optional Events, like Occupation, have been provided for --- and you can even invent your own --- in my view, this sort of information is not a LIFE EVENT for the individual - ie, it is not easily attributable to a single specific date, place and source, rather it is part of the commentary on their life and can be more properly dealt with in the NOTES for the individual ---- and you could even create a specific Note Tag for Occupations, which would give greater scope for describing the individuals occupations. Just because it has been provided in the optional list does not mean it is necessary to use it (think of Notes and Sources as better places for some of these "so-called" events). Good Luck! Stewart -----Original Message----- From: richcar@cfl.rr.com<mailto:richcar@cfl.rr.com> [mailto:richcar@cfl.rr.com] Sent: 15 July 2005 09:13 To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [PAF-5] Missing Children, Occupations, and Graduations Stewart, Thanks for you answer, at least I will quit looking for the children on the individuals report list. However, I can tell you that as I woman I can't think of any fact more natural to see when I look up an individual than whether they have children. I did however make the discovery that children do make themselves known on the descendency report. So, I guess I will have to be happy with that. Now I have another question. (Hope to get the hang of this soon and quit bothering everyone.) The page of individual information lists OCCUPATION. How do the rest of you handle this. It will only take a date. A person especially these days may have several occupations over a span of 30 or so years. Often these occupations change to a great degree. One instance I know the man was a Doctor, then a Lawyer and finally the owner and operator of a Charter Fishing Service. How do you put a date in that block for that? I feel I must be missing something here with the need for one date and what sense does it make? Someone clue me in please. Opps, while I am here there is one more thing-------- Graduation: Only one entry allowed. Can you put in both high school and college somehow? That's it. and thanks to all who answer with help. Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stewart Millar" <sm999@tiscali.co.uk<mailto:sm999@tiscali.co.uk>> To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 3:09 AM Subject: RE: [PAF-5] Children seem to be missing > Hi Carolyn, > > You will need to be specific about which report you ar referring to. > > If you referring to the Individual Summary Report - this does list > marriages > for the individual but it does not list children - logic being (I suppose) > that individuals do not have children - but couples do. The children will > be > listed in the Family Group Report for the couple concerned. > > A child can be linked to a set of biological parents and to a set of > adoptive parents --- and will show up as a child in both family groups --- > check out the "Add" - other parents feature. > > Regards, > > Stewart > > > -----Original Message----- > From: richcar@cfl.rr.com<mailto:richcar@cfl.rr.com> [mailto:richcar@cfl.rr.com] > Sent: 10 July 2005 15:14 > To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [PAF-5] Children seem to be missing > > Hi, > Can someone help me with this problem. When printing a report for an > individual does it not show that they had children? There are 3 marriages > involved. One child born to the first husband, that child was adopted by > the second stepfather and another child was born. This all shows up fine > in > family charts. Then the lady has a third marriage which none of her > children show up, which should be correct. (Unless is there a way to list > the children as his step-children! Don't seem to find anything about > listing > stepchildren.) Anyway back to the problem. When I go print a report for > the > lady it does not show that she has any children at all when she has 2 > natural children. Shouldn't they show up on her report? Thanks in > advance > for your help. Carolyn > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/<http://www.rootsweb.com/> > > > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > PAF-5-USERS Mailing List > http://www.ausbdm.org/p5uindex.php<http://www.ausbdm.org/p5uindex.php> > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== AVG Anti-Virus Users Disable the 'Certify outgoing messages' option via the E-mail Scanner tab. ______________________________