Shirley, To use a CD for backups, first make a backup from PAF and put it somewhere on your hard drive ("My Documents" works well). Next, click on My Documents on the start menu. Now insert a CD and you will be asked want you want to do. Choose "Open writable CD folder using Windows Explorer." You will now have two windows open. Find your backup file and drag it into the window for your CD. After you drag it over you will see the choice to "Write these files to CD" in the left column of the CD window. Click on that operation and then follow the prompts. You can use the same CD for more backups in the future. However you should at least rotate using several CD's so you are a bit more safe. I generally use CD-R because they are so cheap. A CD-RW will allow you to erase files, a CD-R will not. Since a CD-R holds so much I never need to bother with erasing. It would take a very long time to fill a CD-R with PAF backups. For my PAF file I could store more than 500 backups before filling either a CD-R or a CD-RW. Aloha, John -----Original Message----- From: makekaus [mailto:makekaus@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 7:32 AM To: John Vilburn Subject: RE: [PAF-5] Backup files I'm a lurker here but reading about back ups and CD's ..I have never used the CD's for back ups and I need to know if you use a CD-R or a CD-RW? I am used to floppies but my computer now has both. Do you use the same CD to back up or what? I am anxiously waiting for a reply. I am not computer savvy so talk to me in simple language LOL Thank You. Shirley