In a message dated 5/31/2005 5:30:13 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, singhals@erols.com writes: I want a COUNT of all persons born with surname X + those born with surname Xprime. And then I want a count of how many of those are born between 1900 and 2005. You can use Custom Reports to do this. It involves using field filters to get the right names and has the advantage that you can view the results as well as getting the count. You do not have to use anything but PAF 5.