Fran, Regarding you message <I find the new policy on the IGI disappointing also> I do not believe there is anything new here as for long as I have been going to the IGI, which has been many years, there has always been "Submitted" and "Extracted" records. The extracted records are what you expect, extracted from church records, while the submitted records are just that, those submitted by individuals which may or may not have an "official" source and in many cases, may well be in error. I suggest you consider each based on their source and purpose. Jerry