Sorry if this is a repeat....something went weird so I don't know if my first email was sent of not. My fingers are getting tired so this will be the short version of the story. I am a venter from way back. It does no good. I still keep my leaders informed (one member of the stake presidency referred to "Alan's zingers") but instead of waiting on them, I go ahead to find a solution that does not require the church leaders to do anything. I got church members to donate funds to buy the familysearch CDs for a ward house that has not FHC. I got computers donated, enough for both the FHC and a FH training room in a ward house. I got volunteers to set them up in networks, and the list goes on.... Church members often are willing to help if they know there is a need. Past church directives were at one time misunderstood by many to mean "you can't tell people what you need", that is wrong. You can tell people. You just can't have a Bishop call a member and assign them to donate something. I checked! While it has it's frustrations too, I find this way far more satisfying. > From: "Linda" <geneamarm@if.rmci.net> > Date: 2005/05/25 Wed PM 06:14:31 EDT > To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PAF-5] PRF/was No Source Information given in IGI > > Unless Family Search has changed its resources and I haven't noticed, the > PRF online is only an index. It doesn't give you any information at all > other than CD # and record #. When I have been able to view PAF files for a > relative, there usually has been either notes or family links, etc. If all > you have to go on is the FamilySearch PAF index, you have no way of knowing > if there is other information. > > I have no faith in our FHC getting the CDs at anytime. As for Ohana's > Insight, our former computer person did actually get the initial program, > but never updated it, so it's useless because we cannot use it to check for > ordinances. > > We now supposedly have a new computer person, but I haven't seen anything > changed and it's been months. We cannot use flash drives because the > computers have Windows 98 and each computer has to have the drivers > downloaded for every kind of flash drive there is, although supposedly the > computer guy was going to upgrade to 2000 which has all the drivers so we > could use the flash drives. But nothing has been done. > > I'm sorry to vent; this has nothing to do with PAF, but I'm just tired of > dealing with outdated equipment and resources. And then we wonder why no > one comes to the FHC. > > Linda > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <alanjones10@cox.net> > To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 12:00 PM > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PRF/was No Source Information given in IGI > > > > Most of the PRF information is available on the website FamilySearch.org. > > AND it gives you the person who submitted it, so you can get it directly > > from them via email. > > > > As far as the PRF CDs, I was told that the Church was sending them free to > > all FHCs. If true, your FHC could get them if they wanted to for free. > > > > Regarding the little extra info that might be on the CDs, remember that if > > people did not include such data, it will not be there. AND we, people, > > are very bad about including all that data. > > > > Alan > > > >> > >> From: "Linda" <geneamarm@if.rmci.net> > >> Date: 2005/05/25 Wed PM 01:37:12 EDT > >> To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: [PAF-5] PRF/was No Source Information given in IGI > >> > >> I have a very grumpy reason for not submitting my data to the PRF. With > >> ancestral file,the info was available, first to FHCs before the internet, > >> then online once FamilySearch came online. Pedigree Resource File comes > >> only on CDs that have to be purchased. Our Stake FHC only has up to disk > >> 30-something. Even those were purchased privately by stake members who > >> wanted to"build up" the collection, but have not done so recently. I'd > >> have to go to the regional FHC which is something I just can't do on a > >> regular basis. It seems that whenever I do get a hit on the PRF index, > >> it's up in the 60s or 80s. I do want to buy the entire collection for my > >> use, but it's pricey and other more urgent expenses keep coming up. So > >> I'm rather grumpy that we are urged to submit our information to this, > >> but have to pay out in order to see it. Even rootsweb lets you look at > >> others' submitted family histories for free. > >> > >> And, I'm not one who complains about not having free access to > >> genealogical records; just complaining that one can only see the records > >> if they have access to the CDs. If they were automatically supplied to > >> my stake FHC like the AF ones were, or online, I wouldn't fuss. > >> > >> Linda > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Alan Whitcomb > >> To: Linda > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:55 PM > >> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] No Source Information given in IGI > >> > >> > >> This gives us more reasons to submit our data to the Pedigree Resource > >> File, and to encourage our friends to do this as well. > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > >> RootsWeb > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/ > >> > >> > > > > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > > PAF-5-USERS Mailing List > > http://www.ausbdm.org/p5uindex.php > > > > > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > AVG Anti-Virus Users > Disable the 'Certify outgoing messages' option via the E-mail Scanner tab. > >