In a message dated 9/11/2005 9:55:56 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, MEsser112@aol.com writes: After three years of putting my geneology into PAF5Englishsetup.exe.paf I have just discovered that when following directions to convert to GEDCOM, when I click on the SAVE AS TYPE drop down menu there is no GEDCOM listed. Is this because it was a free download? Marilyn Do not use SAVE AS, use FILE > EXPORT. That is how gedcoms are created.