Thanks to all of for responding to my post. I am new here so a little of my background: The old man has been swinging a mouse since Microsoft's very first version of windows, ( worked with computers since 1967, it was my profession.) Currently own 4 computers, none of them older than 7 months, bleeding edge technology, all of them different. I have owned and used just about every genealogy program out there, the first one I used prompted me to write one of my own, which I did and used for a while but the tools of the time, Microsoft' s "C" library killed that project. There were just too many problems with the memory management. I then kept on buying different programs as they hit the market and upgrading them as the upgrades came available. On a field trip to Salt Lake in 2000 for some research I bought a CD with PAF on it and it was love at first usage. I have not bought a single update for any of the other programs since that time. Nor have I used one except for some reporting features that I was used to. Current version of PAF in use: 5.2.18.0 The problem with the Sex field may just be a quirk of mine ( a personal problem so to say ), everyone has their own way ( not necessarily the right way ) of doing things. After entering a name, I take the mouse into my right hand, why I do not know it is automatic, my guess is, that I do it to swat the pop ups, name confirmation and marriage info. , any way I use the mouse to set the Sex field. I have seen this happen on all four of my computers, so it is not hardware related. When it happens and the selection window is left open, I cannot close it by clicking on the selection box itself, there is no reaction. I have to go to some other field and click to change the focus to that field, at that time the selection box closes. Oh yes, when it closes it is marked "Female" so I did have the mouse on the right spot when I clicked. Now can I reproduce it, just tried it twenty times, didn't happen once, but when I am entering real data it occurs often. Granted I do use the heck out of it, have a huge database and it grows daily. Thanks for the update on what the LDS Church's direction and motivation is concerning PAF. Hope they build in strong peer to peer usage, I see this as the future for genealogy research, also the way to keep commercial interests out of genealogy, keeping it free for all. After all, they are our ancestors, why should we have to pay to find out about them? Back and Forwards functionality, nothing more than an additional navigation help, a ring counter if you prefer. Different from using the arrows on the screen that are now there. I use PAF lots and use it to study the subjects in the database. While navigating, it is easy to get lost, say for example I go back four generations on a specific branch of a family, look at some data and want to return where I came from. Now let us say there was two individuals that I passed on the way back that had married more than once, I get lost every single time just trying to navigate back to were I came from using the arrows on the screen. I usually have to revert to Search -> Individual List to get back, and by this time my train of thought is gone. It would also be a cure for the rather inelegant method of handling database position when you go to an individual and delete it, now, you wind up somewhere in the database, totally undefined as it appears. As to the copy and paste not functioning on the Relationship calculator, that is what I thought. I always called this "artificial limits" that a programmer created. We have another "artificial limit" in PAF as well, that is on the number of places that are remembered, sure wish it was not as short as it is currently, if asked how big it should be, I would have to say "can we configure it", I'm sure everyone would want a different number. Would also be nice if the Burial place was in a separate buffer from the other places. Best regards, Dave Vaughan

Here is my suggestion & the way I navigate the data entry: Enter the name -- <TAB> 'f' for female; 'm' for male (just click the letter) -- <TAB> Enter the date of birth (if known) -- <TAB> Enter place of birth (if known) -- <TAB> use the mouse to click <S> if I have a source to enter -- ... etc. ... In Preferences, there is also the choice to use <ENTER> as a TAB. Hope this is a help ... JHFleck ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Vaughan To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 6:08 AM Subject: Questions