hello I'm very much a newbie here to this list. I apologise. I don't know the right words to use to describe the window. This is really frustrating!! You know, when you open a database, the window comes up which shows "family, pedigree individual" options? Well, in the "individual" one, I'd like to see a column for "spouse". I have: RIN, Full Name, Sex, Birth-date, death-date, death-place as my headings in this "individual" window, and want to add "spouse". I'm presuming somehow, that I need a template to do this? How do I make the template? I've searched the archives, but could only think of "spouse" to search for. Thank you SO much if you can help! regards Regina ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com

Hi Regina, As Stewart correctly points out, there is no way to add any columns to the Individual screen that go beyond the information about an individual - such as a spouse. (As a side comment, I once asked the PAF programmers about the limitations to the Individual Screen and they said that particular screen was almost an afterthought and that expanding it's features beyond the individual's information was not in their plans due to the difficulty in programming it.) However, some time ago I concluded the same thing you did. In my database, I have many sets of multiple people with the same names, and it is often very helpful to have their spouse displayed as a means to differentiate between each one. So I solved the problem by doing something that takes time, but has turned out to be very useful. If you look at the Edit Individual screen for someone, you will see a field down in the Other section called Married Name. It turns out that field was added to PAF5 with the intention that users can enter the married name of a female when they are married. I happen to know that it was added at the insistence of someone who at the time had influence with the programming team, but it was never documented, nor was it used for anything other than one person's demand. So the bottom line is that field is unused and has no significance in the database. What makes it interesting to me is that it is a field in the Individual record. So I have appropriated that field for my own personal Spouse's Name field. Granted I cannot change the name of the field in the reports or screens, but I don't consider that a problem. I simply enter manually in that field each individual's spouse's name in [surname, given name] format. I do it for both males and females. When someone has more than one spouse, I list them all separated by semicolons. PAF complains about the semicolon, but I just ignore the complaint. A lot of extra work? Absolutely!!! I have nearly 50,000 names (many are not married, so I don't need to bother with them). But I only do this for the surnames that are very common in my database. I do it when I have free time during my train commute to work, during airplane trips (I travel alot), or when I need some mindless task while listening to a football match (soccer here). I use a special template that includes only the RIN, Sex, Name, and Married Name. I work down the Individual Screen, toggling back and forth between the Family Screen where I fill in the "Spouses Name" field for both the husband and the wife, and then back to the Individual Screen to move to the next entry. I have developed an extremely efficient series of keystrokes that optimize the procedure to make it go fast. I have added the Married Name field as a column in my Individual Screen to have it displayed just like you have suggested. As a side note again, I described my suggestion to the PAF programmers, and they agreed it would be a good idea to make this a feature of the program. If they add it to the next generation of PAF, I will be pleased. But in the meantime, I have solved the problem manually. If you would like more details about how I do this, please let me know. It is a very simple solution to a valuable feature. Richard Rands Mountain View, CA USA At 01:18 AM 6/25/2005 +0100, Regina Craig wrote: >hello >I'm very much a newbie here to this list. >I apologise. I don't know the right words to use to >describe the window. This is really frustrating!! >You know, when you open a database, the window comes >up which shows "family, pedigree individual" options? >Well, in the "individual" one, I'd like to see a >column for "spouse". >I have: RIN, Full Name, Sex, Birth-date, death-date, >death-place as my headings in this "individual" >window, and want to add "spouse". >I'm presuming somehow, that I need a template to do >this? How do I make the template? >I've searched the archives, but could only think of >"spouse" to search for. >Thank you SO much if you can help! > >regards > >Regina > > > >___________________________________________________________ >How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday >snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com > > >==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >PAF-5-USERS Mailing List Archives >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAF-5-USERS/

Very good suggestion!!! I had been using the 'Married Name' field for only the females {i.e. "Jeannie Fleck (Mrs. Daniel)"}; but I can see that using it for naming everyone's spouse(s) could be highly useful. When I put in the married name of someone whom I don't have the first name of the spouse, however, it looks like this: "Evelyn Howe (Mrs. ? )". PAF also complains about the use of the question mark, but I tend to ignore it. It gives me a hint as to what name to look for in an obituary, for example. But here is a question for you: How do you handle it when you don't know the spouse's name - or only have a first name? Thanks, again, for a great suggestion! ... -- J.H. Fleck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Rands" <rrands@cfmc.com> To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 3:51 AM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] showing spouse in list ... <snip> ... | So I solved the problem by doing something that takes | time, but has turned out to be very useful. | If you look at the Edit Individual screen for someone, | you will see a field down in the Other section called | Married Name. It turns out that field was added to | PAF5 with the intention that users can enter the married | name of a female when they are married. I happen to | know that it was added at the insistence of someone | who at the time had influence with the programming | team, but it was never documented, nor was it used for | anything other than one person's demand. So the bottom | line is that field is unused and has no significance in the | database. What makes it interesting to me is that it is a | field in the Individual record. | So I have appropriated that field for my own personal | Spouse's Name field. Granted I cannot change the name | of the field in the reports or screens, but I don't consider | that a problem. I simply enter manually in that field each | individual's spouse's name in [surname, given name] format. | I do it for both males and females. When someone has | more than one spouse, I list them all separated by | semicolons. PAF complains about the semicolon, but I | just ignore the complaint. | A lot of extra work? Absolutely!!! I have nearly 50,000 | names (many are not married, so I don't need to bother | with them). But I only do this for the surnames that are | very common in my database. I do it when I have free | time during my train commute to work, during airplane | trips (I travel alot), or when I need some mindless task | while listening to a football match (soccer here). I use a | special template that includes only the RIN, Sex, Name, | and Married Name. I work down the Individual Screen, | toggling back and forth between the Family Screen where | I fill in the "Spouses Name" field for both the husband and | the wife, and then back to the Individual Screen to move | to the next entry. I have developed an extremely efficient | series of keystrokes that optimize the procedure to make | it go fast. I have added the Married Name field as a | column in my Individual Screen to have it displayed just | like you have suggested. | ... <snip> ...

Regina, No can do I'm afraid. Columns can be added to the Individual view - but only data that relates to the individual - not a marriage, spouse or children (all of which there may be many) - the easiest way to see a spouse from this screen is simply to highlight the individual and then select the Family tab - and there you will have all the spouses and children etc. It is one of the joys of PAF that with a selected individual you can switch between the Individual view, Family view and Pedigree view simply by hitting the tabs. The layout template for the Individual screen is managed by placing the cursor any where on the column headings - right hand click on the mouse - will show a drop down menu with an "Add or Modify Columns" option. Taking this option will display a sub-window that allows you to drag and drop whatever columns you want in whatever sequence you want (apart from the RIN). The sequence of columns can also be rearranged by dragging the column names across the column heading bar to what ever locations are required. Regards, Stewart -----Original Message----- From: Regina Craig [mailto:regina_craig@yahoo.com.au] Sent: 25 June 2005 01:19 To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAF-5] showing spouse in list hello I'm very much a newbie here to this list. I apologise. I don't know the right words to use to describe the window. This is really frustrating!! You know, when you open a database, the window comes up which shows "family, pedigree individual" options? Well, in the "individual" one, I'd like to see a column for "spouse". I have: RIN, Full Name, Sex, Birth-date, death-date, death-place as my headings in this "individual" window, and want to add "spouse". I'm presuming somehow, that I need a template to do this? How do I make the template? I've searched the archives, but could only think of "spouse" to search for. Thank you SO much if you can help! regards Regina ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List Archives http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAF-5-USERS/