Is there something I'm missing here? I have been unable to show a child as adopted by one member of a couple but the natural child of the other. Adoption in PAF seems to always come out that the child is adopted by both parents -- when I use the edit parents method. Is there another way to approach this? Please explain how you can show the child as adopted by only one parent. Thanks, Ellen At 02:00 PM 6/3/2005 -0600, you wrote: >Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 16:31:12 -0600 >From: "Dick Cazier" <dcazier@comcast.net> >To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <005701c567c2$c8265980$0ff6a543@CazierOffice> >Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Re: Acknowledging gay marriages in PAF >Content-Type: text/plain; > format=flowed; > charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=response >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >I think Alan's comment below as to the "right or wrong way" to do >genealogy and "laws" on how it should be done are right on point. > >Much of the discussion on this thread seem to deal with personal feelings >on whether or not homosexual marriages should or should not be recognized >in genealogy. And it appears that most of the comments are based on a >personal theological or religious belief. > >That is not the point. The question originally posed was "how do I record >a homosexual marriage in PAF." So I don't believe it is proper or on >point, in this venue, to try to convince anyone about one point of view or >another as to the validity or appropriateness of trying to record this >type of marriage. > >Now, for an idea of how to record this type of marriage, which PAF is not >set up to do, by virtue of the program requiring one party of the marriage >to be listed as male and the other as female. > >I suggest that you record one party, whether of male or female gender, and >then add the children to that individual. This will result in a marriage >with one partner listed as unknown (no RIN will be assigned to the unknown >spouse and a no MRIN to the marriage). Then record the second party of >the same gender to your PAF database and list the same children. Then >edit the two marriage screens to add the appropriate date and place for >the marriage (as appropriate) and notes to each indicating it is a "same >sex" marriage and that the unknown spouse is-enter the name of the >"marriage" partner of the same gender (and that individual's RIN). You >might want to add a similar entry under the Notes of each individual >partner, so that anyone looking at it later is more likely to find that it >is a "same sex marriage." You may also want to edit the child relationship >to show that they are adopted by both marriage partners , if that is the >case, or show adopted to only one of the partners, if the child/children >are natural children of the other partner. > >I hope this explanation makes sense. It seems to be rather clumsy, but >is the only way I can see that it can be accomplished in the PAF >program. If anyone wants to see an example of this idea, email me off >list and I'll be happy to send you a gedcom of what I set up to test the idea. > >And realize that my quotation marks around the words marriage and same sex >marriage are intended in no way to indicate my feelings on same sex >marriages, but are intended to emphasize that this suggestion is only >deals with same sex marriages. >Dick Cazier >Lakewood, Colorado >USA

PAF 5 is limited to the same relationship of a child to TWO parents. Some of the other genealogy programs allow individual child-parent relationships and use different GEDCOM tags. This means that a second marriage of a bio parent will have the wrong child-parent relationship for one of them if the child is attached to a blended family -- his kids, her kids, their kids. Sample file received from a PAF user had bio relationships for the father's marriages and adoptive for the mother's second marriage. Multiple sets of parents may show no relationships at all if a PAF GEDCOM is imported by programs using the individual parent relationships. If accuracy of relationships is important for GEDCOM file transfers, data entry should be limited to two bio parents for each child and other relationships explained in notes. Second best would be one set of parents for each child with an explanation if a child was shown as "adopted" by one of the bio parents. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ellen" > Is there something I'm missing here? I have been unable to show a child as > adopted by one member of a couple but the natural child of the other. > Adoption in PAF seems to always come out that the child is adopted by both > parents -- when I use the edit parents method. Is there another way to > approach this?