Sorry I didn't go through all the steps. Sometimes it is so easy to skip over something. Here is the way I do it: Let me use a specific example, a child's parents divorced. The mother who has custody remarried. The step father adopted the child, the bio father gave up his rights. Here is how I did it. 1st I create the child's bio family, marking the marriage with a divorce. 2nd I added the second marriage of the mother (of course this marriage does not have the child) 3rd I when to the child in teh Family screen, the child was in the primary position and highlighted. 4th I clicked on ADD from the menu bar, in the drop down list I selected OTHER PARENTS 5th a window popped up titled "Parents" on it the bio parents are there, I click the ADD button. 6th then a new window comes up titled "Add Parents", I click on the Find Father button, I pick this because the step father is in the database, I don't need to add him from scratch. If I did neet to add him from scratch I would have clicked Add Father 7th a FIND window pops up, I choose to use the Individual List to find the step father, once I highlight the step father I click OK 8. It asks which marriage for this man, in my case there was only one choice, and I click OK 9. An Edit Marraige window comes up, I click Save 10. I am back to the Add PARENTS window, where I click OK 11. I am back to the Parents window, where the step father is selected in the list, I choose the relattionship type "Adopted" and click SAVE Now in the family view with the child in the primary possition, over the father's name is a button/link "Other Parents" I can click on it to see the various fathers of the child: Bio, Adopted, etc. I can select anyone I want as the "primary" and it will then show up as the father in the Family View screen. Did this clear it up? Alan Jones Mission Viejo, Calif. -----Original Message----- From: HoutsRFred@aol.com [mailto:HoutsRFred@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 5:36 AM To: alanjones10@cox.net; PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Re: Biological/Adopted ALAN -- Sorry, but I'm not following you. I just put a sample couple in my d.b. to use for this, plus a "new" father by the mother's remarriage. Then I added a child, Jimmy, to original biological parents. When I highlight Jimmy, thinking I'm going to add him as an adoptive child of his step-father, it displays in the "Add Parent" window the ORIGINAL biological parents for Jimmy. I don't know how to get from there to the new father (step-father). He is not displayed and once I'm at this point I can select type of parents (step, adoptive etc.) but I can't go from that point to the new father as the biological parents (both) are displayed at this point. Can't get from point A to point B, I guess. Can you make it plainer for a dummy like me? Thanks for step-by-step. Keep in mind that we want this to end up showing that Jimmy is the adopted child of ONLY the one parent . . . not both, for after all, he is the natural child of one of them. --Fred Houts, Brooklyn Center MN In a message dated 6/4/2005 10:03:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, alanjones10@cox.net writes: Let say you have the biological family in PAF, and then the parents divorce or one dies, and the other remarried. You add the person's new spouse. THEN go to the child of the biological parents highlight the child, click on ADD .... OTHER PARENTS.... Select the new step/adoptive parent. In this say window where you select the person, you select the type of parent adoptive, guardian, etc.