Should work, Joan. Let me try it with a smaller database first. "dsp" - abbreviation of the Latin for "died without issue" Progress to-date: I tried a Descendant chart printed to file (.rtf); Word died when it tried to open the file...file was over 9M. So I switched to a generic text printer, and did it again. That one was small enough to open; I did a "Find" for "Printed on Page", and used the yellow hi-liter on all those (35, if memory serves). I'm not completely sure what good that did me (g), but it did work ... so I'm sure I'll figure it out. By reducing the top and bottom margins to 0.5 in, and removing all blank lines at the tops of pages, I got it down to under 400 pages. Cheryl Joan Lowrey wrote: > Cheryl, > > How would this work: > 1. Make a GEDCOM file of all the descendants of Child #1 and import it > into a new PAF database. Write down the highest RIN. > 2. Make a GEDCOM file of all the descendants of Child #3 and import it > into the new database. Write down the RIN range for these additions. > 3. In match merge, select the option to match on "Unique record serial > numbers." Do not select "Merge automatically . . ., so you can see who > the matches are. Don't do any merging. > Repeat, adding one child's descendants at a time to the database, and > writing down each set's RIN range. > You will be able to tell which Child's descendants are matching, by the > range of RINs the two matching descendants are in. And you should be > able to see that some descendants match more that one RIN range, so > descend from more than one child of the common. ancestor. > > I haven't done this, but it seems it should work. > > BTW, what is "dsp"? > > Joan Lowrey > > > At 04:48 PM 4/28/05 -0400, singhals wrote: > >> Thanks for trying, Alan, but I _know_ how many there are: 14,000+ >> What I want to know is, how many of them descend from two of the sons >> (or from one son twice)? >> >> I played with numbers, and Child #1 has 10,304 descendants; Child #2 >> dsp under age 5; Child #3 has 212 descendants; Child #4 dsp "young"; >> Child #5 had 693 descendants; child #6 -m- twice, no known children; >> Child #7 has 3610 descendants; and Child #8 has 1495 descendants. Add >> those numbers together, subtract from 14,xxx and I get (-2147), which >> suggests that *at least* 2000 descendants come through more than one >> son. That's a lot of folks to try to track manually. >> >> [And I just noticed the wierd dsp pattern...] >> >> Cheryl

Hi Cheryl I'm pretty new to genealogy so excuse the dumb question. Why is it necessary to know who the individuals are that are common descendants?? Regards, Ken Guilette South Barrington, IL ----- Original Message ----- From: singhals To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Multiple lines of descent/ascent Should work, Joan. Let me try it with a smaller database first. "dsp" - abbreviation of the Latin for "died without issue" Progress to-date: I tried a Descendant chart printed to file (.rtf); Word died when it tried to open the file...file was over 9M. So I switched to a generic text printer, and did it again. That one was small enough to open; I did a "Find" for "Printed on Page", and used the yellow hi-liter on all those (35, if memory serves). I'm not completely sure what good that did me (g), but it did work ... so I'm sure I'll figure it out. By reducing the top and bottom margins to 0.5 in, and removing all blank lines at the tops of pages, I got it down to under 400 pages. Cheryl Joan Lowrey wrote: > Cheryl, > > How would this work: > 1. Make a GEDCOM file of all the descendants of Child #1 and import it > into a new PAF database. Write down the highest RIN. > 2. Make a GEDCOM file of all the descendants of Child #3 and import it > into the new database. Write down the RIN range for these additions. > 3. In match merge, select the option to match on "Unique record serial > numbers." Do not select "Merge automatically . . ., so you can see who > the matches are. Don't do any merging. > Repeat, adding one child's descendants at a time to the database, and > writing down each set's RIN range. > You will be able to tell which Child's descendants are matching, by the > range of RINs the two matching descendants are in. And you should be > able to see that some descendants match more that one RIN range, so > descend from more than one child of the common. ancestor. > > I haven't done this, but it seems it should work. > > BTW, what is "dsp"? > > Joan Lowrey > > > At 04:48 PM 4/28/05 -0400, singhals wrote: > >> Thanks for trying, Alan, but I _know_ how many there are: 14,000+ >> What I want to know is, how many of them descend from two of the sons >> (or from one son twice)? >> >> I played with numbers, and Child #1 has 10,304 descendants; Child #2 >> dsp under age 5; Child #3 has 212 descendants; Child #4 dsp "young"; >> Child #5 had 693 descendants; child #6 -m- twice, no known children; >> Child #7 has 3610 descendants; and Child #8 has 1495 descendants. Add >> those numbers together, subtract from 14,xxx and I get (-2147), which >> suggests that *at least* 2000 descendants come through more than one >> son. That's a lot of folks to try to track manually. >> >> [And I just noticed the wierd dsp pattern...] >> >> Cheryl ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== FreeBMD - Free Access to England and Wales Civil Registration Index Volunteer as a Transcriber Today! http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

(G) Not a dumb question at all, Ken. We want to mark the nametags at the Reunion with the ancestor's name ... and we KNOW there are a number with two ancestors, we just don't know who they are. Yet. [NB Yes, I could put this off until the Registration deadline, but I'd sooner not wait that long to find the problems.] Cheryl Kenneth Guilette wrote: > Hi Cheryl > > I'm pretty new to genealogy so excuse the dumb question. > > Why is it necessary to know _who_ the individuals are that are common > descendants?? > > Regards, > > Ken Guilette > South Barrington, IL > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* singhals <mailto:singhals@erols.com> > *To:* PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com <mailto:PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > *Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2005 8:34 AM > *Subject:* Re: [PAF-5] Multiple lines of descent/ascent > > Should work, Joan. Let me try it with a smaller database first. > > "dsp" - abbreviation of the Latin for "died without issue" > > Progress to-date: I tried a Descendant chart printed to file (.rtf); > Word died when it tried to open the file...file was over 9M. So I > switched to a generic text printer, and did it again. That one was > small enough to open; I did a "Find" for "Printed on Page", and used > the > yellow hi-liter on all those (35, if memory serves). I'm not > completely > sure what good that did me (g), but it did work ... so I'm sure I'll > figure it out. By reducing the top and bottom margins to 0.5 in, and > removing all blank lines at the tops of pages, I got it down to under > 400 pages. > > Cheryl > > Joan Lowrey wrote: > > Cheryl, > > > > How would this work: > > 1. Make a GEDCOM file of all the descendants of Child #1 and > import it > > into a new PAF database. Write down the highest RIN. > > 2. Make a GEDCOM file of all the descendants of Child #3 and > import it > > into the new database. Write down the RIN range for these additions. > > 3. In match merge, select the option to match on "Unique record > serial > > numbers." Do not select "Merge automatically . . ., so you can > see who > > the matches are. Don't do any merging. > > Repeat, adding one child's descendants at a time to the database, > and > > writing down each set's RIN range. > > You will be able to tell which Child's descendants are matching, > by the > > range of RINs the two matching descendants are in. And you should be > > able to see that some descendants match more that one RIN range, so > > descend from more than one child of the common. ancestor. > > > > I haven't done this, but it seems it should work. > > > > BTW, what is "dsp"? > > > > Joan Lowrey > > > > > > At 04:48 PM 4/28/05 -0400, singhals wrote: > > > >> Thanks for trying, Alan, but I _know_ how many there are: 14,000+ > >> What I want to know is, how many of them descend from two of the > sons > >> (or from one son twice)? > >> > >> I played with numbers, and Child #1 has 10,304 descendants; > Child #2 > >> dsp under age 5; Child #3 has 212 descendants; Child #4 dsp > "young"; > >> Child #5 had 693 descendants; child #6 -m- twice, no known > children; > >> Child #7 has 3610 descendants; and Child #8 has 1495 > descendants. Add > >> those numbers together, subtract from 14,xxx and I get (-2147), > which > >> suggests that *at least* 2000 descendants come through more than > one > >> son. That's a lot of folks to try to track manually. > >> > >> [And I just noticed the wierd dsp pattern...] > >> > >> Cheryl > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > FreeBMD - Free Access to England and Wales Civil Registration Index > Volunteer as a Transcriber Today! > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >