Hi Cheryl, Deleting an unwanted marriage record is hard to locate unless you know where to look. Put the husband in the principal position and click on the Other Marriages button. Select the Unknown spouse and click OK. Then double click on the Marriage date box between the husband and wife boxes. On the right side of the Edit Marriage window will be a Delete button. For the " Thomas" problem, PAF will automatically remove leading blanks, so what you seem to have before the T is a non-printing character embedded in the given name field. Many times this may happen if you inadvertently double strike two keys simultaneously. Usually you can eliminate the seemingly blank character by opening the Edit Individual screen and deleting the entire given name and re-entering the name. If that does not work, try deleting the entire name and re-entering it. If that does not work, then you may need to delete the record and reenter it. If there are lots of notes and sources attached to the record, I suggest you export the single record as a GEDCOM file and then delete the record. Use a text editor (Wordpad) and make sure the non-printing character did not get into the GEDCOM file. Then re-import the record and link it back up to the family. If that doesn't work, send your file to me and I'll fix it. Richard Rands At 07:21 PM 4/23/2005 -0400, singhals wrote: >I accidentally entered an "unknown" spouse with no children, and entered >the lady who shudda been the spouse as a child. I've managed to unlink >her as a child. What I *intended* to happen was insert her in the >"unknown" slot, but something somewhere went wrong, and she's now the 3rd >spouse, and I can't delete the Unknown marriage. I wouldn't actually >care, except it's stupid to let it sit there and trip me up at some future >time after I've forgotten it's a mistake. Suggestions welcomed on how to >get rid of it. > >Also, on another family, the 5th child is showing as " Thomas" instead of >"Thomas" ... I haven't been able to fix that either, but I've sure as heck >tried! (g) Might help if I could figure out what caused it. > >Thanks! > >Cheryl > > >==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >PAF-5-USERS Mailing List Archives >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAF-5-USERS/

Since I'm a lazy soul, I'll reply to Richard publically, since lots of you have suggested the same procedure for deleting the marriage ... unfortunately the "delete marriage" choice is greyed out when I try it, so that doesn't work. Ah-HA a non-printing chr$ ... OK, I didn't think of that. And GEDCOMming one person might be doable, but be darn if I'm even gonna think about gecomming the whole file of 35,000+ names and notes. It was sad enough at 20,000 names... I'll letchano if any of this works. Thanks Cheryl Richard Rands wrote: > Hi Cheryl, > Deleting an unwanted marriage record is hard to locate unless you know > where to look. Put the husband in the principal position and click on > the Other Marriages button. Select the Unknown spouse and click OK. > Then double click on the Marriage date box between the husband and wife > boxes. On the right side of the Edit Marriage window will be a Delete > button. > > For the " Thomas" problem, PAF will automatically remove leading blanks, > so what you seem to have before the T is a non-printing character > embedded in the given name field. Many times this may happen if you > inadvertently double strike two keys simultaneously. Usually you can > eliminate the seemingly blank character by opening the Edit Individual > screen and deleting the entire given name and re-entering the name. If > that does not work, try deleting the entire name and re-entering it. If > that does not work, then you may need to delete the record and reenter > it. If there are lots of notes and sources attached to the record, I > suggest you export the single record as a GEDCOM file and then delete > the record. Use a text editor (Wordpad) and make sure the non-printing > character did not get into the GEDCOM file. Then re-import the record > and link it back up to the family. If that doesn't work, send your file > to me and I'll fix it. > > Richard Rands > > > > At 07:21 PM 4/23/2005 -0400, singhals wrote: > >> I accidentally entered an "unknown" spouse with no children, and >> entered the lady who shudda been the spouse as a child. I've managed >> to unlink her as a child. What I *intended* to happen was insert her >> in the "unknown" slot, but something somewhere went wrong, and she's >> now the 3rd spouse, and I can't delete the Unknown marriage. I >> wouldn't actually care, except it's stupid to let it sit there and >> trip me up at some future time after I've forgotten it's a mistake. >> Suggestions welcomed on how to get rid of it. >> >> Also, on another family, the 5th child is showing as " Thomas" instead >> of "Thomas" ... I haven't been able to fix that either, but I've sure >> as heck tried! (g) Might help if I could figure out what caused it. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Cheryl

Cheryl, I find it incredible that you can get into a marriage edit window and have the Delete option greyed out. This should not happen and it is difficult to come up with a scenario that would create it. Are you on the 5.2.18? The marriage edit screen can also be reached from the menu options - Search > Marriage List - then highlighting the particular marriage (MRIN) and pressing the Edit button - it should give exactly the same options as before - but it should be tried to be absolutely sure. If you are on 5.2.18 and the marriage has a MRIN - whether or not one of the spouses is Unknown - and PAF is preventing the use of the Delete button - then you have a major and uncommon bug. Do keep us posted as to progress. Regards, Stewart -----Original Message----- From: singhals [mailto:singhals@erols.com] Sent: 24 April 2005 18:49 To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAF-5] How to delete a marriage and a space? Since I'm a lazy soul, I'll reply to Richard publically, since lots of you have suggested the same procedure for deleting the marriage ... unfortunately the "delete marriage" choice is greyed out when I try it, so that doesn't work. Ah-HA a non-printing chr$ ... OK, I didn't think of that. And GEDCOMming one person might be doable, but be darn if I'm even gonna think about gecomming the whole file of 35,000+ names and notes. It was sad enough at 20,000 names... I'll letchano if any of this works. Thanks Cheryl Richard Rands wrote: > Hi Cheryl, > Deleting an unwanted marriage record is hard to locate unless you know > where to look. Put the husband in the principal position and click on > the Other Marriages button. Select the Unknown spouse and click OK. > Then double click on the Marriage date box between the husband and wife > boxes. On the right side of the Edit Marriage window will be a Delete > button. > > For the " Thomas" problem, PAF will automatically remove leading blanks, > so what you seem to have before the T is a non-printing character > embedded in the given name field. Many times this may happen if you > inadvertently double strike two keys simultaneously. Usually you can > eliminate the seemingly blank character by opening the Edit Individual > screen and deleting the entire given name and re-entering the name. If > that does not work, try deleting the entire name and re-entering it. If > that does not work, then you may need to delete the record and reenter > it. If there are lots of notes and sources attached to the record, I > suggest you export the single record as a GEDCOM file and then delete > the record. Use a text editor (Wordpad) and make sure the non-printing > character did not get into the GEDCOM file. Then re-import the record > and link it back up to the family. If that doesn't work, send your file > to me and I'll fix it. > > Richard Rands > > > > At 07:21 PM 4/23/2005 -0400, singhals wrote: > >> I accidentally entered an "unknown" spouse with no children, and >> entered the lady who shudda been the spouse as a child. I've managed >> to unlink her as a child. What I *intended* to happen was insert her >> in the "unknown" slot, but something somewhere went wrong, and she's >> now the 3rd spouse, and I can't delete the Unknown marriage. I >> wouldn't actually care, except it's stupid to let it sit there and >> trip me up at some future time after I've forgotten it's a mistake. >> Suggestions welcomed on how to get rid of it. >> >> Also, on another family, the 5th child is showing as " Thomas" instead >> of "Thomas" ... I haven't been able to fix that either, but I've sure >> as heck tried! (g) Might help if I could figure out what caused it. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Cheryl ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== Having trouble with the software? Check PAF 5.x Information http://www.ausbdm.org/p5uinfo.php