As far as I know, a Data folder does not automatically get created in a standard installation of PAF 5. I believe there may be one in PAF3 but I am not at a computer where I can check. Gary Templeman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Unable to write to my PAF program > George, > > If you open your Family Search folder, then PAF then click on Data > locate and highlight the file name you are having problems with ie > 'JONES' then right click on that file, go down to Properties then > uncheck the Read Only box, you will find that will work. > > Regards > Barbara > > > [email protected] wrote: >> George, >> >> I think you are confusing what file you need to fix. It sounds from the >> description below that you are trying to change the read-only setting on >> the PAF program folder. It is supposed to be read-only, as you should not >> be able to directly modify the program files themselves. You need to be >> looking at your data file (something like "gildersleeve.paf"). The >> default location for that is probably in your My Documents folder. >> Reinstalling PAF is not going to solve the problem because the issue is >> almost certainly with your data file, and is a Windows problem not a PAF >> problem. >> >> If you cannot locate your data file you may need to find somebody who can >> get to your computer and do a hands-on fix. If you can locate the data >> file but are unable to change it, my offer still stands for you to email >> it to me and I will fix it. (I am not interested in any of your personal >> information) >> >> Gary Templeman >> >> -------------- Original message -------------- >> From: "George Gildersleeve" <[email protected]> >> >> >>> Gary, >>> I followed the procedure as outlined by opening windows explorer. Went >>> into >>> the C drive to program files>Family Search> clicked on properties in >>> PAF5, >>> clicked on the general tab, unclicked on the square stating for read >>> only, >>> clicked apply then moved on. However each time I opened a PAF I got the >>> read only message so I returned and repeated the above procedure. After >>> 'successfully' following the instructions I would go out of the family >>> search then return to it and find the read only square with a check in >>> it - >>> did this several times with the same result. >>> Feeling pretty frustrated. >>> Any suggestions as to what the cause is and a solution to this? >>> George >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Gary Templeman" >>> To: >>> Cc: >>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 7:14 PM >>> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Unable to write to my PAF program >>> >>> >>> >>>> It could be set as read-only, but the file I had to fix on Friday did >>>> NOT >>>> have a check in that box and we were getting the exact same error >>>> message. >>>> I had to be logged on as administrator, then right click and select >>>> properties, then security and add "everyone" as a user with access to >>>> the >>>> file and then give full control. >>>> >>>> What apparently happened is that the portable HD would not work on the >>>> FHC >>>> computer until it got installed, and the patron user login did not have >>>> sufficient privileges to install the hardware. After going to the admin >>>> login the HD worked (that is only a one-time process), but the file was >>>> saved to the drive while still on as Administrator. Administrator >>>> apparently took ownership. When she took the drive home it would not >>>> work >>>> on her computer. >>>> >>>> When she returned, testing of the file at the FHC showed it would run >>>> when >>>> I was logged on as Administrator, but not as Patron. It was only after >>>> going back to the Admin login and changing the security settings that >>>> it >>>> would run under any login. The security tab needed to access those >>>> parameters is available in XP Pro (and Windows 2000 Pro) but not XP >>>> Home. >>>> I must admit it was puzzling to have a read-error when the read-only >>>> flag >>>> was not set, and that was a new one for me. >>>> >>>> George, if the read-only attribute is not set but it still errors out, >>>> email me the file and I will try to fix it and send it back. >>>> >>>> Gary Templeman >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Bill Buchanan" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 6:31 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Unable to write to my PAF program >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> George, >>>>> >>>>> The file attribute has probably been set to Read-Only (maybe by being >>>>> saved >>>>> on a CD). >>>>> >>>>> To remove the Read-Only attribute, save the file to the hard disk >>>>> (perhaps >>>>> to the Desktop or MyDocuments). >>>>> Click the right-hand mouse button on the file's icon, and from the >>>>> pop-up >>>>> menu select Properties. On the General tab, check whether there is a >>>>> checkmark beside Read-Only. If so, click on it to remove the >>>>> checkmark, >>>>> and >>>>> click OK. The file should now be readable and writeable. >>>>> >>>>> Bill Buchanan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "George Gildersleeve" >>>>> To: >>>>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 3:02 PM >>>>> Subject: [PAF-5] Unable to write to my PAF program >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>> I appreciate all the suggestions and help which I thought would allow >>>>>> me >>>>>> >>>>> to write to my PAF program but I am still not able to do so. I've >>>>> tried >>>>> a >>>>> number of things including downloading to repair PAF and have gone >>>>> into >>>>> various parts of PAF including 'file', 'tools' etc. but nothing seems >>>>> to >>>>> work for me. >>>>> >>>>>> A for instance I've gone into tools>preferences>and opened files but >>>>>> it >>>>>> >>>>> isn't available. Any suggestions at all will be tried and thank's >>>>> again >>>>> for >>>>> all who have tried to assist me. >>>>> >>>>>> Very frustrated, >>>>>> George Gildersleeve >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> >>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>>> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1097 - Release Date: >>>>>> >>>>> 10/28/2007 1:58 PM >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

George, Gary is right. In PAF5 there is no folder called Data in either the FamilySearch folder or the PAF5 folder. PAF5 data files will probably be found in MyDocuments, but can be found by using Start menu | Search | .paf Once I have found the file using Search, I would select it (but NOT open it .i.e click once, not twice), then from the Windows File menu, select "Open containing folder". Then right-click on the file's icon to bring up the pop-up menu where you can select Properties. From the Properties General tab, remove any checkmark beside Read-Only, and click OK. If it isn't a Windows access-level problem, the problem should be solved. A different but easy solution is to open the file in PAF and export All to a gedcom file. Create a new (empty) PAF file with a unique name (i.e. any name not already used by a PAF file on your computer), and import the gedcom. This might take you 5 minutes. Let us know how you solved the problem. Bill Buchanan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Templeman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Unable to write to my PAF program > As far as I know, a Data folder does not automatically get created in a > standard installation of PAF 5. I believe there may be one in PAF3 but I am > not at a computer where I can check. > > Gary Templeman > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:56 PM > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Unable to write to my PAF program > > > > George, > > > > If you open your Family Search folder, then PAF then click on Data > > locate and highlight the file name you are having problems with ie > > 'JONES' then right click on that file, go down to Properties then > > uncheck the Read Only box, you will find that will work. > > > > Regards > > Barbara > > > > > > [email protected] wrote: > >> George, > >> > >> I think you are confusing what file you need to fix. It sounds from the > >> description below that you are trying to change the read-only setting on > >> the PAF program folder. It is supposed to be read-only, as you should not > >> be able to directly modify the program files themselves. You need to be > >> looking at your data file (something like "gildersleeve.paf"). The > >> default location for that is probably in your My Documents folder. > >> Reinstalling PAF is not going to solve the problem because the issue is > >> almost certainly with your data file, and is a Windows problem not a PAF > >> problem. > >> > >> If you cannot locate your data file you may need to find somebody who can > >> get to your computer and do a hands-on fix. If you can locate the data > >> file but are unable to change it, my offer still stands for you to email > >> it to me and I will fix it. (I am not interested in any of your personal > >> information) > >> > >> Gary Templeman > >> > >> -------------- Original message -------------- > >> From: "George Gildersleeve" <[email protected]> > >> > >> > >>> Gary, > >>> I followed the procedure as outlined by opening windows explorer. Went > >>> into > >>> the C drive to program files>Family Search> clicked on properties in > >>> PAF5, > >>> clicked on the general tab, unclicked on the square stating for read > >>> only, > >>> clicked apply then moved on. However each time I opened a PAF I got the > >>> read only message so I returned and repeated the above procedure. After > >>> 'successfully' following the instructions I would go out of the family > >>> search then return to it and find the read only square with a check in > >>> it - > >>> did this several times with the same result. > >>> Feeling pretty frustrated. > >>> Any suggestions as to what the cause is and a solution to this? > >>> George > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Gary Templeman" > >>> To: > >>> Cc: > >>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 7:14 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Unable to write to my PAF program > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> It could be set as read-only, but the file I had to fix on Friday did > >>>> NOT > >>>> have a check in that box and we were getting the exact same error > >>>> message. > >>>> I had to be logged on as administrator, then right click and select > >>>> properties, then security and add "everyone" as a user with access to > >>>> the > >>>> file and then give full control. > >>>> > >>>> What apparently happened is that the portable HD would not work on the > >>>> FHC > >>>> computer until it got installed, and the patron user login did not have > >>>> sufficient privileges to install the hardware. After going to the admin > >>>> login the HD worked (that is only a one-time process), but the file was > >>>> saved to the drive while still on as Administrator. Administrator > >>>> apparently took ownership. When she took the drive home it would not > >>>> work > >>>> on her computer. > >>>> > >>>> When she returned, testing of the file at the FHC showed it would run > >>>> when > >>>> I was logged on as Administrator, but not as Patron. It was only after > >>>> going back to the Admin login and changing the security settings that > >>>> it > >>>> would run under any login. The security tab needed to access those > >>>> parameters is available in XP Pro (and Windows 2000 Pro) but not XP > >>>> Home. > >>>> I must admit it was puzzling to have a read-error when the read-only > >>>> flag > >>>> was not set, and that was a new one for me. > >>>> > >>>> George, if the read-only attribute is not set but it still errors out, > >>>> email me the file and I will try to fix it and send it back. > >>>> > >>>> Gary Templeman > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "Bill Buchanan" > >>>> To: > >>>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 6:31 PM > >>>> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Unable to write to my PAF program > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> George, > >>>>> > >>>>> The file attribute has probably been set to Read-Only (maybe by being > >>>>> saved > >>>>> on a CD). > >>>>> > >>>>> To remove the Read-Only attribute, save the file to the hard disk > >>>>> (perhaps > >>>>> to the Desktop or MyDocuments). > >>>>> Click the right-hand mouse button on the file's icon, and from the > >>>>> pop-up > >>>>> menu select Properties. On the General tab, check whether there is a > >>>>> checkmark beside Read-Only. If so, click on it to remove the > >>>>> checkmark, > >>>>> and > >>>>> click OK. The file should now be readable and writeable. > >>>>> > >>>>> Bill Buchanan > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> From: "George Gildersleeve" > >>>>> To: > >>>>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 3:02 PM > >>>>> Subject: [PAF-5] Unable to write to my PAF program > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Hello all, > >>>>>> I appreciate all the suggestions and help which I thought would allow > >>>>>> me > >>>>>> > >>>>> to write to my PAF program but I am still not able to do so. I've > >>>>> tried > >>>>> a > >>>>> number of things including downloading to repair PAF and have gone > >>>>> into > >>>>> various parts of PAF including 'file', 'tools' etc. but nothing seems > >>>>> to > >>>>> work for me. > >>>>> > >>>>>> A for instance I've gone into tools>preferences>and opened files but > >>>>>> it > >>>>>> > >>>>> isn't available. Any suggestions at all will be tried and thank's > >>>>> again > >>>>> for > >>>>> all who have tried to assist me. > >>>>> > >>>>>> Very frustrated, > >>>>>> George Gildersleeve > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ------------------------------- >