Okay, will do, and thanks. Lila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaylon Findlay" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 31 December, 2007 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] A much-needed improvement > Of course. (In which case, you should probably e-mail me directly, > rather than having the group listen in on a training/trouble-shooting > session.) > > Gaylon > > > [email protected] wrote: >> My brain is too old to absorb all this. Maybe it will feel younger >> tomorrow >> :-). >> >> Seriously, if I do the download and run into trouble, which I'm sure to >> because I live in the clutches of Murphy's law, will you help me get on >> track? >> >> Lila >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gaylon Findlay" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: 31 December, 2007 1:14 PM >> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] A much-needed improvement >> >> >> >>> Lila: >>> >>> Yes, but let me clarify one technicality. PAF 5 can edit one type of >>> file. It has an extension of ".paf". >>> >>> AQ can edit two types of files. One of these is the same ".paf" file >>> that you can edit in PAF. The other is a database specific to AQ, with >>> an extension of ".aq". If you use the ".paf" file, then your statement >>> is accurate. You can, indeed, edit a ".paf" database in both AQ and PAF, >>> which means that any changes you make in one program will show up in the >>> other program. (This also means that you can use other PAF add-on >>> programs with AQ, such as PAF Companion, as long as you are using the >>> ".paf" type of file.) >>> >>> If you use the ".aq" type of database, then changes you make in AQ will >>> not be shown in PAF. But this is not something that you need to worry >>> about. You would have to initiate the process to convert your database >>> from a ".paf" format to a ".aq" format. And you really don't need to do >>> that. >>> >>> Gaylon >>> >>> >>> [email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> Are you saying that when I make a correction or addition to an AQ >>>> database, >>>> it will cross over to to PAF and vice versa? >>>> >>>> I have subbed to the AQ list to see whether members are responding to >>>> problems and questions. >>>> >>>> Lila >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Gaylon Findlay" <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: 31 December, 2007 12:00 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] A much-needed improvement >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Lila: >>>>> >>>>> Yes, GEDCOMs will go from PAF to AQ seamlessly. But there is even a >>>>> better way. AQ can directly convert databases from PAF into AQ and >>>>> from >>>>> AQ into PAF (you won't need to use GEDCOM unless you really want to). >>>>> AQ >>>>> can also work with your PAF file so that you don't need to export it >>>>> or >>>>> convert it. You can even use AQ to deal with the advanced features, >>>>> then >>>>> go back to using PAF. Since they both use the same database, you can >>>>> alternate which program you use. >>>>> >>>>> You can use AQ to edit your PAF data, then use PAF to print your >>>>> German >>>>> reports on the same data. >>>>> >>>>> AQ has the ability for users to translate the program into any >>>>> language >>>>> in the world. At present, we are not aware of any who have fully taken >>>>> advantage of this capability -- we have heard of some efforts to start >>>>> translating into Danish, German, French, Dutch, Vietnamese, Spanish, >>>>> Polish and I believe Russian. But I don't believe any are complete >>>>> (the >>>>> Danish is very close). >>>>> >>>>> AQ will work a little differently than PAF when it comes to reports. >>>>> You >>>>> won't have to use the whole program in German to get a German report. >>>>> You will be able to use the program in English, and choose German as >>>>> the >>>>> report language. So you won't have to "memorize which buttons to >>>>> click". >>>>> (Even before a German translation is fully available, you could use >>>>> your >>>>> PAF Family Group Sheet as a guide, and translate the Family Group >>>>> Sheet >>>>> of AQ into German so that you could use AQ to do this. -- Or, you can >>>>> just use the German version of PAF to do this while you use AQ in >>>>> English.) >>>>> >>>>> Yes, there is a support mailing list for AQ: >>>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AncestralQuest >>>>> >>>>> You can go to www.ancquest.com and download the trial version of AQ. >>>>> It >>>>> will open your PAF database. After a few minutes of playing with AQ, I >>>>> think you'll realize that it is so similar to PAF, that you won't "get >>>>> into trouble doing a changeover". (To give you peace of mind, you >>>>> should >>>>> do a backup of your PAF database before you start experimenting like >>>>> this.) >>>>> >>>>> Gaylon >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Okay, I googled AQ and explored it a little and it looks good. >>>>>> Supposing >>>>>> I >>>>>> download it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Will GedComs from PAF go into it seamlessly? >>>>>> >>>>>> There seems to be capability for additional languages. I am using >>>>>> English >>>>>> and German versions of PAF. It's neat that I can set up my print or >>>>>> print >>>>>> to >>>>>> file screen in English, and then switch to German (which I'm weak at >>>>>> reading) and the setup will hold between languages, so I only have to >>>>>> memorize which buttons to click.Will that work the same way in AQ? (I >>>>>> sometimes need to send Family Group Sheets or pedigree charts to >>>>>> German >>>>>> cousins, and having the clue words in their language is helpful to >>>>>> them.) >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there a support mailing list for AQ like this one for PAF? >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm just afraid I'm going to get into trouble doing a changeover! But >>>>>> I >>>>>> also >>>>>> see the handwriting on the wall--with no updating, PAF is not going >>>>>> to >>>>>> run >>>>>> on some Windows version subsequent to Vista. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lila >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Gaylon Findlay" <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: 31 December, 2007 10:37 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] A much-needed improvement >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheryl: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course there is always the other option. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Even though PAF 5 is no longer being updated, Ancestral Quest (from >>>>>>> which PAF 5 was created) is being updated. If you were to use AQ to >>>>>>> edit >>>>>>> your PAF data, you would be able to flag these people as "Not a >>>>>>> Problem" >>>>>>> (right in your PAF database) so that when you run the problem report >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> AQ, they will not show up. Nor would you have any "stress of the >>>>>>> blisters switching would cause", because you could continue to use >>>>>>> PAF, >>>>>>> and you'd find that AQ is so much like PAF, that there is virtually >>>>>>> no >>>>>>> learning curve. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And then, since Incline Software is still updating AQ, as you notice >>>>>>> things you'd like to see improved, you could send in a request to >>>>>>> see >>>>>>> if >>>>>>> Incline Software will make the change to AQ. Since PAF is no longer >>>>>>> being updated, this is your only avenue to work with a PAF-like >>>>>>> program, >>>>>>> and have the possibility that your suggestions could be acted upon. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gaylon Findlay >>>>>>> Incline Software >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> singhals wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yeah, I know I _could_ switch to Legacy Family Tree, but I >>>>>>>> have grown somewhat inured to PAF5's peculiarities and don't >>>>>>>> actually need the stress of the blisters switching would cause. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, next time someone is futzing around with PAF5, could you >>>>>>>> give some thought to the Possible Problms report? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Could we specify WHICH problem we're looking for? And could >>>>>>>> a sanity check on dates be run? I mean, 8 pages of Possible >>>>>>>> Problems and the birthdate of 2869 didn't show up??? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't actually need to know that the relatives in India, >>>>>>>> all of whom are in my database with the umbrella caste name >>>>>>>> rather than the myriad subcaste names, largely because we >>>>>>>> don't know who uses which and when, all have the same last >>>>>>>> name. Yeah, I know. And it's NOT A PROBLEM. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also NOT A PROBLEM is the great-uncle who died aged 105 or >>>>>>>> the GGGGGF who was 113 when he died. I can prove the first >>>>>>>> and legal documents certainly support the 2nd so quit >>>>>>>> harping on it! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And could you USE the Bef or AFT labels in the date field? >>>>>>>> "born bef 1871 married 1876" doesn't make her 5 when she >>>>>>>> married! Nor does "died aft 1887" mean her last child, born >>>>>>>> in 1887, was posthumous. Fixing that will eliminate 3 or 4 >>>>>>>> pages of that 8page report, and if I had the REAL data, it'd >>>>>>>> be in there. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Geez-Louise. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheryl >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>> the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message