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    1. Re: [PAF-5] Can I merge marriages?
    2. singhals
    3. Well, yeah, but that's not what's happened. :( I have Bob Jones and Sally Rogers MRIN 3; when I swap them so Sally's parents show, I get the little box OTHER MARRIAGES, which shows a 2nd marriage to Bob Jones MRIN 6. When Bob's parents show, there's no OTHER MARRIAGES box. There ought to be a way to say MRIN3 and MRIN6 are the same "event" "couple" "persons" and to merge the two Marriages. And yes, both MRINs had issue, so merging Bob with Bob and Sally with Sally doubles the number of issue; and since most of Bob's issue also has issue who have issue ... As I said, MY fault, I'm just looking for a faster/better/cheaper way to fix it. Cheryl Gaylon Findlay wrote: > Cheryl: > > Let's say that you have "Bob Jones" married to "Sally Rogers". And you > have two copies each of Bob and Sally. > > Bob (RIN 1) is married to Sally (RIN 2), and the marriage is MRIN 3. > The second Bob (RIN 4) is married to the second Sally (RIN 5) in > marriage MRIN 6. > > Once you merge the two copies of Bob (RINs 1 and 4), you will still have > two marriages (MRINs 3 and 6). There will only be one copy of Bob, and > that is RIN 1. So now you have: > > Bob (RIN 1) is married to Sally (RIN 2), and the marriage is MRIN 3. > Bob (RIN 1 -- remember, he's been merged, and there is no longer a RIN > 4) is married to the second Sally (RIN 5) in marriage MRIN 6. > > Now, when you merge the two copies of Sally (RINs 2 and 5), you will end > up with only one copy of Sally, and that will be RIN 2. At this point in > the merge process, PAF should be smart enough to recognize that since > MRIN 3 and MRIN 6 both have the same two partners, it will automatically > merge the two marriages. So you will end up only with marriage MRIN 3. > MRIN 6 will be gone. > > In summary, any time you have two copies of the same marriage, once you > merge the two partners, the extra marriage will be merged. Concentrate > on merging the individuals, and the marriages should take care of > themselves. > > Gaylon > > PS. If the original RIN 1=RIN 2 couple had children, and the original > RIN 4=RIN 5 couple had a duplicate set of children, then you will > eventually have to merge the children. > > > > > singhals wrote: > >> I know exactly what I did, why, and how. My bad, no >> question about it. I even know the hard way to fix it. >> >> Question *IS*, is there an easy way? What I did resulted in >> numerous people being married twice to the same person. Is >> there a way to merge the marriage records? >> >> (If I just unlink one of 'em, they're still in the db >> floating around in the alpha reports. Merging the spouses >> seems to result in duplicate children which then also need >> merging creating duplicate grandchildren etc etc.) >> >> If PAF won't merge marriages, will Legacy? >> >> Cheryl >> >> > > -- There should be no attachments on this message, unless I specifically mentioned them above.

    12/07/2007 03:17:46
    1. Re: [PAF-5] Can I merge marriages?
    2. Gary Templeman
    3. >From your description, it appears there are two Bobs but only one Sally. When you merge the two Bobs, you will automatically merge the two MRINs and it does not double the number of issue, they are *already* in the database as duplicate individuals. The only thing you do is show them all at one time in the (now) single marriage of Sally and Bob. Assuming the data for each of their descendents is identical or close to it, merging a couple of hundred duplicates should only take 10-15 minutes, and as those people are merged, their duplicate marriages will also disappear. Merging the people merges the marriages and I don't think it could work the other way around, or what would happen if someone married a different person of the same name? If you truely have identical issue from both trees then the easier route may be to dissolve the marriage link in MRIN 6. That will create two seperate trees, one with Bob and Sally and one with Bob and unknown. Then GED out the correct tree and import it into a new database. If you have made those kinds of duplicates in multiple families I am not sure of the best fix. How about reverting to a backup created before the mess was made? Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "singhals" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 7:17 AM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Can I merge marriages? > Well, yeah, but that's not what's happened. :( > > I have Bob Jones and Sally Rogers MRIN 3; when I swap them > so Sally's parents show, I get the little box OTHER > MARRIAGES, which shows a 2nd marriage to Bob Jones MRIN 6. > When Bob's parents show, there's no OTHER MARRIAGES box. > > There ought to be a way to say MRIN3 and MRIN6 are the same > "event" "couple" "persons" and to merge the two Marriages. > > And yes, both MRINs had issue, so merging Bob with Bob and > Sally with Sally doubles the number of issue; and since most > of Bob's issue also has issue who have issue ... > > As I said, MY fault, I'm just looking for a > faster/better/cheaper way to fix it. > > Cheryl > > Gaylon Findlay wrote: > >> Cheryl: >> >> Let's say that you have "Bob Jones" married to "Sally Rogers". And you >> have two copies each of Bob and Sally. >> >> Bob (RIN 1) is married to Sally (RIN 2), and the marriage is MRIN 3. >> The second Bob (RIN 4) is married to the second Sally (RIN 5) in >> marriage MRIN 6. >> >> Once you merge the two copies of Bob (RINs 1 and 4), you will still have >> two marriages (MRINs 3 and 6). There will only be one copy of Bob, and >> that is RIN 1. So now you have: >> >> Bob (RIN 1) is married to Sally (RIN 2), and the marriage is MRIN 3. >> Bob (RIN 1 -- remember, he's been merged, and there is no longer a RIN >> 4) is married to the second Sally (RIN 5) in marriage MRIN 6. >> >> Now, when you merge the two copies of Sally (RINs 2 and 5), you will end >> up with only one copy of Sally, and that will be RIN 2. At this point in >> the merge process, PAF should be smart enough to recognize that since >> MRIN 3 and MRIN 6 both have the same two partners, it will automatically >> merge the two marriages. So you will end up only with marriage MRIN 3. >> MRIN 6 will be gone. >> >> In summary, any time you have two copies of the same marriage, once you >> merge the two partners, the extra marriage will be merged. Concentrate >> on merging the individuals, and the marriages should take care of >> themselves. >> >> Gaylon >> >> PS. If the original RIN 1=RIN 2 couple had children, and the original >> RIN 4=RIN 5 couple had a duplicate set of children, then you will >> eventually have to merge the children. >> >> >> >> >> singhals wrote: >> >>> I know exactly what I did, why, and how. My bad, no >>> question about it. I even know the hard way to fix it. >>> >>> Question *IS*, is there an easy way? What I did resulted in >>> numerous people being married twice to the same person. Is >>> there a way to merge the marriage records? >>> >>> (If I just unlink one of 'em, they're still in the db >>> floating around in the alpha reports. Merging the spouses >>> seems to result in duplicate children which then also need >>> merging creating duplicate grandchildren etc etc.) >>> >>> If PAF won't merge marriages, will Legacy? >>> >>> Cheryl >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > There should be no attachments on this message, unless I > specifically mentioned them above. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/07/2007 01:58:11