Lila: Yes, GEDCOMs will go from PAF to AQ seamlessly. But there is even a better way. AQ can directly convert databases from PAF into AQ and from AQ into PAF (you won't need to use GEDCOM unless you really want to). AQ can also work with your PAF file so that you don't need to export it or convert it. You can even use AQ to deal with the advanced features, then go back to using PAF. Since they both use the same database, you can alternate which program you use. You can use AQ to edit your PAF data, then use PAF to print your German reports on the same data. AQ has the ability for users to translate the program into any language in the world. At present, we are not aware of any who have fully taken advantage of this capability -- we have heard of some efforts to start translating into Danish, German, French, Dutch, Vietnamese, Spanish, Polish and I believe Russian. But I don't believe any are complete (the Danish is very close). AQ will work a little differently than PAF when it comes to reports. You won't have to use the whole program in German to get a German report. You will be able to use the program in English, and choose German as the report language. So you won't have to "memorize which buttons to click". (Even before a German translation is fully available, you could use your PAF Family Group Sheet as a guide, and translate the Family Group Sheet of AQ into German so that you could use AQ to do this. -- Or, you can just use the German version of PAF to do this while you use AQ in English.) Yes, there is a support mailing list for AQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AncestralQuest You can go to www.ancquest.com and download the trial version of AQ. It will open your PAF database. After a few minutes of playing with AQ, I think you'll realize that it is so similar to PAF, that you won't "get into trouble doing a changeover". (To give you peace of mind, you should do a backup of your PAF database before you start experimenting like this.) Gaylon [email protected] wrote: > Okay, I googled AQ and explored it a little and it looks good. Supposing I > download it. > > Will GedComs from PAF go into it seamlessly? > > There seems to be capability for additional languages. I am using English > and German versions of PAF. It's neat that I can set up my print or print to > file screen in English, and then switch to German (which I'm weak at > reading) and the setup will hold between languages, so I only have to > memorize which buttons to click.Will that work the same way in AQ? (I > sometimes need to send Family Group Sheets or pedigree charts to German > cousins, and having the clue words in their language is helpful to them.) > > Is there a support mailing list for AQ like this one for PAF? > > I'm just afraid I'm going to get into trouble doing a changeover! But I also > see the handwriting on the wall--with no updating, PAF is not going to run > on some Windows version subsequent to Vista. > > Lila > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gaylon Findlay" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: 31 December, 2007 10:37 AM > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] A much-needed improvement > > > >> Cheryl: >> >> Of course there is always the other option. >> >> Even though PAF 5 is no longer being updated, Ancestral Quest (from >> which PAF 5 was created) is being updated. If you were to use AQ to edit >> your PAF data, you would be able to flag these people as "Not a Problem" >> (right in your PAF database) so that when you run the problem report in >> AQ, they will not show up. Nor would you have any "stress of the >> blisters switching would cause", because you could continue to use PAF, >> and you'd find that AQ is so much like PAF, that there is virtually no >> learning curve. >> >> And then, since Incline Software is still updating AQ, as you notice >> things you'd like to see improved, you could send in a request to see if >> Incline Software will make the change to AQ. Since PAF is no longer >> being updated, this is your only avenue to work with a PAF-like program, >> and have the possibility that your suggestions could be acted upon. >> >> Gaylon Findlay >> Incline Software >> >> >> singhals wrote: >> >>> Yeah, I know I _could_ switch to Legacy Family Tree, but I >>> have grown somewhat inured to PAF5's peculiarities and don't >>> actually need the stress of the blisters switching would cause. >>> >>> So, next time someone is futzing around with PAF5, could you >>> give some thought to the Possible Problms report? >>> >>> Could we specify WHICH problem we're looking for? And could >>> a sanity check on dates be run? I mean, 8 pages of Possible >>> Problems and the birthdate of 2869 didn't show up??? >>> >>> I don't actually need to know that the relatives in India, >>> all of whom are in my database with the umbrella caste name >>> rather than the myriad subcaste names, largely because we >>> don't know who uses which and when, all have the same last >>> name. Yeah, I know. And it's NOT A PROBLEM. >>> >>> Also NOT A PROBLEM is the great-uncle who died aged 105 or >>> the GGGGGF who was 113 when he died. I can prove the first >>> and legal documents certainly support the 2nd so quit >>> harping on it! >>> >>> And could you USE the Bef or AFT labels in the date field? >>> "born bef 1871 married 1876" doesn't make her 5 when she >>> married! Nor does "died aft 1887" mean her last child, born >>> in 1887, was posthumous. Fixing that will eliminate 3 or 4 >>> pages of that 8page report, and if I had the REAL data, it'd >>> be in there. >>> >>> Geez-Louise. >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheryl >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Are you saying that when I make a correction or addition to an AQ database, it will cross over to to PAF and vice versa? I have subbed to the AQ list to see whether members are responding to problems and questions. Lila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaylon Findlay" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 31 December, 2007 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] A much-needed improvement > Lila: > > Yes, GEDCOMs will go from PAF to AQ seamlessly. But there is even a > better way. AQ can directly convert databases from PAF into AQ and from > AQ into PAF (you won't need to use GEDCOM unless you really want to). AQ > can also work with your PAF file so that you don't need to export it or > convert it. You can even use AQ to deal with the advanced features, then > go back to using PAF. Since they both use the same database, you can > alternate which program you use. > > You can use AQ to edit your PAF data, then use PAF to print your German > reports on the same data. > > AQ has the ability for users to translate the program into any language > in the world. At present, we are not aware of any who have fully taken > advantage of this capability -- we have heard of some efforts to start > translating into Danish, German, French, Dutch, Vietnamese, Spanish, > Polish and I believe Russian. But I don't believe any are complete (the > Danish is very close). > > AQ will work a little differently than PAF when it comes to reports. You > won't have to use the whole program in German to get a German report. > You will be able to use the program in English, and choose German as the > report language. So you won't have to "memorize which buttons to click". > (Even before a German translation is fully available, you could use your > PAF Family Group Sheet as a guide, and translate the Family Group Sheet > of AQ into German so that you could use AQ to do this. -- Or, you can > just use the German version of PAF to do this while you use AQ in > English.) > > Yes, there is a support mailing list for AQ: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AncestralQuest > > You can go to www.ancquest.com and download the trial version of AQ. It > will open your PAF database. After a few minutes of playing with AQ, I > think you'll realize that it is so similar to PAF, that you won't "get > into trouble doing a changeover". (To give you peace of mind, you should > do a backup of your PAF database before you start experimenting like > this.) > > Gaylon > > > [email protected] wrote: >> Okay, I googled AQ and explored it a little and it looks good. Supposing >> I >> download it. >> >> Will GedComs from PAF go into it seamlessly? >> >> There seems to be capability for additional languages. I am using English >> and German versions of PAF. It's neat that I can set up my print or print >> to >> file screen in English, and then switch to German (which I'm weak at >> reading) and the setup will hold between languages, so I only have to >> memorize which buttons to click.Will that work the same way in AQ? (I >> sometimes need to send Family Group Sheets or pedigree charts to German >> cousins, and having the clue words in their language is helpful to them.) >> >> Is there a support mailing list for AQ like this one for PAF? >> >> I'm just afraid I'm going to get into trouble doing a changeover! But I >> also >> see the handwriting on the wall--with no updating, PAF is not going to >> run >> on some Windows version subsequent to Vista. >> >> Lila >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gaylon Findlay" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >> Sent: 31 December, 2007 10:37 AM >> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] A much-needed improvement >> >> >> >>> Cheryl: >>> >>> Of course there is always the other option. >>> >>> Even though PAF 5 is no longer being updated, Ancestral Quest (from >>> which PAF 5 was created) is being updated. If you were to use AQ to edit >>> your PAF data, you would be able to flag these people as "Not a Problem" >>> (right in your PAF database) so that when you run the problem report in >>> AQ, they will not show up. Nor would you have any "stress of the >>> blisters switching would cause", because you could continue to use PAF, >>> and you'd find that AQ is so much like PAF, that there is virtually no >>> learning curve. >>> >>> And then, since Incline Software is still updating AQ, as you notice >>> things you'd like to see improved, you could send in a request to see if >>> Incline Software will make the change to AQ. Since PAF is no longer >>> being updated, this is your only avenue to work with a PAF-like program, >>> and have the possibility that your suggestions could be acted upon. >>> >>> Gaylon Findlay >>> Incline Software >>> >>> >>> singhals wrote: >>> >>>> Yeah, I know I _could_ switch to Legacy Family Tree, but I >>>> have grown somewhat inured to PAF5's peculiarities and don't >>>> actually need the stress of the blisters switching would cause. >>>> >>>> So, next time someone is futzing around with PAF5, could you >>>> give some thought to the Possible Problms report? >>>> >>>> Could we specify WHICH problem we're looking for? And could >>>> a sanity check on dates be run? I mean, 8 pages of Possible >>>> Problems and the birthdate of 2869 didn't show up??? >>>> >>>> I don't actually need to know that the relatives in India, >>>> all of whom are in my database with the umbrella caste name >>>> rather than the myriad subcaste names, largely because we >>>> don't know who uses which and when, all have the same last >>>> name. Yeah, I know. And it's NOT A PROBLEM. >>>> >>>> Also NOT A PROBLEM is the great-uncle who died aged 105 or >>>> the GGGGGF who was 113 when he died. I can prove the first >>>> and legal documents certainly support the 2nd so quit >>>> harping on it! >>>> >>>> And could you USE the Bef or AFT labels in the date field? >>>> "born bef 1871 married 1876" doesn't make her 5 when she >>>> married! Nor does "died aft 1887" mean her last child, born >>>> in 1887, was posthumous. Fixing that will eliminate 3 or 4 >>>> pages of that 8page report, and if I had the REAL data, it'd >>>> be in there. >>>> >>>> Geez-Louise. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheryl >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >