Gaylon, Thanks for your postings on AQ. I have been using PAF for 5 years and I had know idea it was connected with AQ. So now I know if PAF becomes obsolete I have somewhere to go. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaylon Findlay" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] AQ > Mel: > > Let me intersperse answers in between your questions below. > > Gaylon > > Mary Gagne wrote: >> Been reading the messages about PAF versus AQ, have a couple of >> questions. I haven't worked much with PAF recently and there probably >> have been changes made since I started it. But AQ, is this a program >> much like PAF? > *** > PAF is essentially a slightly modified version of an older Ancestral > Quest. Incline Software gave the AQ code to the LDS Church 9 years ago, > and Church programmers made a few changes and called it PAF 4. Then they > made a few more changes and called it PAF 5. But most of the code is > written by Incline Software, and is Ancestral Quest code. > *** >> And is it upgraded from time to time (like I understand >> PAF won't be upgraded any more)? > *** > 9 years ago, when the code was given to the Church, AQ was at version 3. > Scores of enhancements and improvements have been made to AQ since then, > including most of the enhancements made to PAF, plus a bunch more. AQ is > currently at version 12. And it is still being upgraded. > *** >> And is AQ through the church, or is it >> a commercial program and must be purchased? > *** > It is a commercial program. Unfortunately, Incline Software doesn't get > funded through Tithing funds of the LDS Church as PAF does, so we do > have to charge for AQ. > *** >> Is it a one time fee or is >> it something you have to re-purchase yearly? >> > *** > Like most commercial software, you can purchase it once and use that > version for as long as you like. There is no yearly renewal. However, as > new versions are released, you would have to pay an upgrade fee to use > the newer features. (Some users are still quite happy to continue using > version 1.0 from 1994. They have only paid a fee one time.) > *** >> Mel >> >> >> Gaylon Findlay wrote: >> >>> Lila: >>> >>> Yes, GEDCOMs will go from PAF to AQ seamlessly. But there is even a >>> better way. AQ can directly convert databases from PAF into AQ and from >>> AQ into PAF (you won't need to use GEDCOM unless you really want to). AQ >>> can also work with your PAF file so that you don't need to export it or >>> convert it. You can even use AQ to deal with the advanced features, then >>> go back to using PAF. Since they both use the same database, you can >>> alternate which program you use. >>> >>> You can use AQ to edit your PAF data, then use PAF to print your German >>> reports on the same data. >>> >>> AQ has the ability for users to translate the program into any language >>> in the world. At present, we are not aware of any who have fully taken >>> advantage of this capability -- we have heard of some efforts to start >>> translating into Danish, German, French, Dutch, Vietnamese, Spanish, >>> Polish and I believe Russian. But I don't believe any are complete (the >>> Danish is very close). >>> >>> AQ will work a little differently than PAF when it comes to reports. You >>> won't have to use the whole program in German to get a German report. >>> You will be able to use the program in English, and choose German as the >>> report language. So you won't have to "memorize which buttons to click". >>> (Even before a German translation is fully available, you could use your >>> PAF Family Group Sheet as a guide, and translate the Family Group Sheet >>> of AQ into German so that you could use AQ to do this. -- Or, you can >>> just use the German version of PAF to do this while you use AQ in >>> English.) >>> >>> Yes, there is a support mailing list for AQ: >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AncestralQuest >>> >>> You can go to www.ancquest.com and download the trial version of AQ. It >>> will open your PAF database. After a few minutes of playing with AQ, I >>> think you'll realize that it is so similar to PAF, that you won't "get >>> into trouble doing a changeover". (To give you peace of mind, you should >>> do a backup of your PAF database before you start experimenting like >>> this.) >>> >>> Gaylon >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

For those making comments about the future of PAF may be interested in the following message that was posted on the Yahoo message board used by directors at the LDS Church's Family History Centers (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FHCNET/). The message dealt with issues regarding the New FamilySearch system (nFS) currently being rolled out to LDS members. The source is from a staff member of the Church's Family History Dept. However, the poster overheard a discussion after the meeting and wrote the following: 4. Concerning the future of PAF. I did not ask this question, he was answering this issue to another person as I walked up. The following is part of what I heard. It is not a dead program. It will be around for a long time. There will be some minor changes to the program so that it will be able to interface with nFS. No time frame for this. Richard Rands At 05:24 PM 1/1/2008 -0800, you wrote: >Gaylon, >Thanks for your postings on AQ. I have been using PAF for 5 years and I had >know idea it was connected with AQ. So now I know if PAF becomes obsolete I >have somewhere to go. >John >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gaylon Findlay" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 4:13 PM >Subject: Re: [PAF-5] AQ > > > > Mel: > > > > Let me intersperse answers in between your questions below. > > > > Gaylon > > > > Mary Gagne wrote: > >> Been reading the messages about PAF versus AQ, have a couple of > >> questions. I haven't worked much with PAF recently and there probably > >> have been changes made since I started it. But AQ, is this a program > >> much like PAF? > > *** > > PAF is essentially a slightly modified version of an older Ancestral > > Quest. Incline Software gave the AQ code to the LDS Church 9 years ago, > > and Church programmers made a few changes and called it PAF 4. Then they > > made a few more changes and called it PAF 5. But most of the code is > > written by Incline Software, and is Ancestral Quest code. > > *** > >> And is it upgraded from time to time (like I understand > >> PAF won't be upgraded any more)? > > *** > > 9 years ago, when the code was given to the Church, AQ was at version 3. > > Scores of enhancements and improvements have been made to AQ since then, > > including most of the enhancements made to PAF, plus a bunch more. AQ is > > currently at version 12. And it is still being upgraded. > > *** > >> And is AQ through the church, or is it > >> a commercial program and must be purchased? > > *** > > It is a commercial program. Unfortunately, Incline Software doesn't get > > funded through Tithing funds of the LDS Church as PAF does, so we do > > have to charge for AQ. > > *** > >> Is it a one time fee or is > >> it something you have to re-purchase yearly? > >> > > *** > > Like most commercial software, you can purchase it once and use that > > version for as long as you like. There is no yearly renewal. However, as > > new versions are released, you would have to pay an upgrade fee to use > > the newer features. (Some users are still quite happy to continue using > > version 1.0 from 1994. They have only paid a fee one time.) > > *** > >> Mel > >> > >> > >> Gaylon Findlay wrote: > >> > >>> Lila: > >>> > >>> Yes, GEDCOMs will go from PAF to AQ seamlessly. But there is even a > >>> better way. AQ can directly convert databases from PAF into AQ and from > >>> AQ into PAF (you won't need to use GEDCOM unless you really want to). AQ > >>> can also work with your PAF file so that you don't need to export it or > >>> convert it. You can even use AQ to deal with the advanced features, then > >>> go back to using PAF. Since they both use the same database, you can > >>> alternate which program you use. > >>> > >>> You can use AQ to edit your PAF data, then use PAF to print your German > >>> reports on the same data. > >>> > >>> AQ has the ability for users to translate the program into any language > >>> in the world. At present, we are not aware of any who have fully taken > >>> advantage of this capability -- we have heard of some efforts to start > >>> translating into Danish, German, French, Dutch, Vietnamese, Spanish, > >>> Polish and I believe Russian. But I don't believe any are complete (the > >>> Danish is very close). > >>> > >>> AQ will work a little differently than PAF when it comes to reports. You > >>> won't have to use the whole program in German to get a German report. > >>> You will be able to use the program in English, and choose German as the > >>> report language. So you won't have to "memorize which buttons to click". > >>> (Even before a German translation is fully available, you could use your > >>> PAF Family Group Sheet as a guide, and translate the Family Group Sheet > >>> of AQ into German so that you could use AQ to do this. -- Or, you can > >>> just use the German version of PAF to do this while you use AQ in > >>> English.) > >>> > >>> Yes, there is a support mailing list for AQ: > >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AncestralQuest > >>> > >>> You can go to www.ancquest.com and download the trial version of AQ. It > >>> will open your PAF database. After a few minutes of playing with AQ, I > >>> think you'll realize that it is so similar to PAF, that you won't "get > >>> into trouble doing a changeover". (To give you peace of mind, you should > >>> do a backup of your PAF database before you start experimenting like > >>> this.) > >>> > >>> Gaylon > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a recent interview with Jackie McKay and Mary Slawson on "Relatively Speaking" on KSL radio, John Vilburn of Ohana software said that a new version of Family Insight will be offered as a free upgrade to registered users of PAF Insight. This new version of FI will interface with New FamilySearch allowing uploads and downloads. (This will add the download capability from nFS that is missing from PAF.) Note that it is not currently possible to download data from nFS, but this will be possible in future versions of the nFS website. Bill Buchanan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Rands" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] AQ > For those making comments about the future of PAF may be interested > in the following message that was posted on the Yahoo message board > used by directors at the LDS Church's Family History Centers > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FHCNET/). > > The message dealt with issues regarding the New FamilySearch system > (nFS) currently being rolled out to LDS members. The source is from > a staff member of the Church's Family History Dept. However, the > poster overheard a discussion after the meeting and wrote the following: > > 4. Concerning the future of PAF. I did not ask this question, he was > answering this issue to another person as I walked up. The following is > part of what I heard. It is not a dead program. It will be around for a > long time. There will be some minor changes to the program so that it will > be able to interface with nFS. No time frame for this. > > Richard Rands > > > > > At 05:24 PM 1/1/2008 -0800, you wrote: > >Gaylon, > >Thanks for your postings on AQ. I have been using PAF for 5 years and I had > >know idea it was connected with AQ. So now I know if PAF becomes obsolete I > >have somewhere to go. > >John > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Gaylon Findlay" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 4:13 PM > >Subject: Re: [PAF-5] AQ > > > > > > > Mel: > > > > > > Let me intersperse answers in between your questions below. > > > > > > Gaylon > > > > > > Mary Gagne wrote: > > >> Been reading the messages about PAF versus AQ, have a couple of > > >> questions. I haven't worked much with PAF recently and there probably > > >> have been changes made since I started it. But AQ, is this a program > > >> much like PAF? > > > *** > > > PAF is essentially a slightly modified version of an older Ancestral > > > Quest. Incline Software gave the AQ code to the LDS Church 9 years ago, > > > and Church programmers made a few changes and called it PAF 4. Then they > > > made a few more changes and called it PAF 5. But most of the code is > > > written by Incline Software, and is Ancestral Quest code. > > > *** > > >> And is it upgraded from time to time (like I understand > > >> PAF won't be upgraded any more)? > > > *** > > > 9 years ago, when the code was given to the Church, AQ was at version 3. > > > Scores of enhancements and improvements have been made to AQ since then, > > > including most of the enhancements made to PAF, plus a bunch more. AQ is > > > currently at version 12. And it is still being upgraded. > > > *** > > >> And is AQ through the church, or is it > > >> a commercial program and must be purchased? > > > *** > > > It is a commercial program. Unfortunately, Incline Software doesn't get > > > funded through Tithing funds of the LDS Church as PAF does, so we do > > > have to charge for AQ. > > > *** > > >> Is it a one time fee or is > > >> it something you have to re-purchase yearly? > > >> > > > *** > > > Like most commercial software, you can purchase it once and use that > > > version for as long as you like. There is no yearly renewal. However, as > > > new versions are released, you would have to pay an upgrade fee to use > > > the newer features. (Some users are still quite happy to continue using > > > version 1.0 from 1994. They have only paid a fee one time.) > > > *** > > >> Mel > > >> > > >> > > >> Gaylon Findlay wrote: > > >> > > >>> Lila: > > >>> > > >>> Yes, GEDCOMs will go from PAF to AQ seamlessly. But there is even a > > >>> better way. AQ can directly convert databases from PAF into AQ and from > > >>> AQ into PAF (you won't need to use GEDCOM unless you really want to). AQ > > >>> can also work with your PAF file so that you don't need to export it or > > >>> convert it. You can even use AQ to deal with the advanced features, then > > >>> go back to using PAF. Since they both use the same database, you can > > >>> alternate which program you use. > > >>> > > >>> You can use AQ to edit your PAF data, then use PAF to print your German > > >>> reports on the same data. > > >>> > > >>> AQ has the ability for users to translate the program into any language > > >>> in the world. At present, we are not aware of any who have fully taken > > >>> advantage of this capability -- we have heard of some efforts to start > > >>> translating into Danish, German, French, Dutch, Vietnamese, Spanish, > > >>> Polish and I believe Russian. But I don't believe any are complete (the > > >>> Danish is very close). > > >>> > > >>> AQ will work a little differently than PAF when it comes to reports. You > > >>> won't have to use the whole program in German to get a German report. > > >>> You will be able to use the program in English, and choose German as the > > >>> report language. So you won't have to "memorize which buttons to click". > > >>> (Even before a German translation is fully available, you could use your > > >>> PAF Family Group Sheet as a guide, and translate the Family Group Sheet > > >>> of AQ into German so that you could use AQ to do this. -- Or, you can > > >>> just use the German version of PAF to do this while you use AQ in > > >>> English.) > > >>> > > >>> Yes, there is a support mailing list for AQ: > > >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AncestralQuest > > >>> > > >>> You can go to www.ancquest.com and download the trial version of AQ. It > > >>> will open your PAF database. After a few minutes of playing with AQ, I > > >>> think you'll realize that it is so similar to PAF, that you won't "get > > >>> into trouble doing a changeover". (To give you peace of mind, you should > > >>> do a backup of your PAF database before you start experimenting like > > >>> this.) > > >>> > > >>> Gaylon > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1205 - Release Date: 12/31/2007 3:32 PM > >