I think that what Renee meant to say was that when you are using PAF Insight and spent many hours updating your records but did not save them, sometimes the program does crash especially when the database is large and then you will lose all of the updates that you have found to that point. That is why it is important to save the updates frequently. Janice Carter ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 10:21 AM Subject: PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 40 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 39 ([email protected]) > 2. Re: PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 39 (Ross G.H. Cotton) > 3. Re: PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 39 (FredV) > 4. Re: PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 39 (Ross G.H. Cotton) > 5. Re: PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 39 (Don Boudreaux) > 6. Re: PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 38 (Gary Templeman) > 7. Re: PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 39 (Gary Templeman) > 8. Re: PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 38 (Peter) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 09:18:44 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 39 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > In a message dated 3/9/2008 4:07:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > >> However, that is not my main message. The add-on I would like to tell >> you >> about is called "PAF 5 datescanner". This program will scan all the >> dates in >> your PAF 5 data file and inform you of all those that are not in the >> correct >> format. > Good Morning from Chilly Florida > Could you please expand on what you mean by correct format? Is this > according to Mrs Mills Book on citations? Church format? Someone else's > format? > Formats as you put them in the system? > Thanks in advance > Doug Burnett > Satellite Beach > FL > > > ************** > It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. > (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 10:21:39 -0400 > From: "Ross G.H. Cotton" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 39 > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > The only CORRECT format is one that other People (the reader) will > understand what is meant. > > There are recommended formats. > > The one I use, based on 25 years of experience, is to ensure the month is > shown in Characters, not numbers. This can be 12 Jan 1920, or Jan 12 > 1920, > or 1920 Jan 12. > > Any worthwhile genealogy program will facilitate one of the above formats. > > > Ross GH Cotton, Burlington, ON, CAN 905)639-2929 > Genealogy of the Cotton surname is my Enigma > I haven't sent an attachment if the details are not mentioned above > > GOONS member responsible for tracking the family name, COTTON, #1437 > Coordinator for Cotton DNA testing Project, Worldwide > see http://home.comcast.net/~cottondna/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 9:18 AM > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 39 > > >> In a message dated 3/9/2008 4:07:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >>> However, that is not my main message. The add-on I would like to tell >>> you >>> about is called "PAF 5 datescanner". This program will scan all the >>> dates in >>> your PAF 5 data file and inform you of all those that are not in the >>> correct >>> format. >> Good Morning from Chilly Florida >> Could you please expand on what you mean by correct format? Is this >> according to Mrs Mills Book on citations? Church format? Someone else's >> format? >> Formats as you put them in the system? >> Thanks in advance >> Doug Burnett >> Satellite Beach >> FL >> >> >> ************** >> It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & >> Finance. >> (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 10:34:41 -0400 > From: "FredV" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 39 > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > And one of the things that has always bothered me, is folks "correcting" > the > double dates required by the 1700's (US and England)calendar change..The > date program someone mentioned here yesterday had a problem with > them..From > - to and Feb 29 with a double year showed as an error...:-) > > > Regards, Fred > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ross G.H. Cotton > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 10:22 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 39 > > The only CORRECT format is one that other People (the reader) will > understand what is meant. > > There are recommended formats. > > The one I use, based on 25 years of experience, is to ensure the month is > shown in Characters, not numbers. This can be 12 Jan 1920, or Jan 12 > 1920, > > or 1920 Jan 12. > > Any worthwhile genealogy program will facilitate one of the above formats. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 10:42:38 -0400 > From: "Ross G.H. Cotton" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 39 > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Fred > I think you should give us an example of what you are mentioning, so we > can > understand your point? > > > Ross GH Cotton, Burlington, ON, CAN 905)639-2929 > Genealogy of the Cotton surname is my Enigma > I haven't sent an attachment if the details are not mentioned above > > GOONS member responsible for tracking the family name, COTTON, #1437 > Coordinator for Cotton DNA testing Project, Worldwide > see http://home.comcast.net/~cottondna/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "FredV" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 10:34 AM > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 39 > > >> And one of the things that has always bothered me, is folks "correcting" >> the >> double dates required by the 1700's (US and England)calendar change..The >> date program someone mentioned here yesterday had a problem with >> them..From >> - to and Feb 29 with a double year showed as an error...:-) >> >> >> Regards, Fred > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 09:50:35 -0500 > From: Don Boudreaux <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 39 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > That is an excellent point, when you see 1/12/1920. How can you tell if > that is > Jan 12, 1920 or Dec 1, 1920, if that format is used. > > Don Boudreaux > > Ross G.H. Cotton wrote: >> The only CORRECT format is one that other People (the reader) will >> understand what is meant. >> >> There are recommended formats. >> >> The one I use, based on 25 years of experience, is to ensure the month is >> shown in Characters, not numbers. This can be 12 Jan 1920, or Jan 12 >> 1920, >> or 1920 Jan 12. >> >> Any worthwhile genealogy program will facilitate one of the above >> formats. >> >> >> Ross GH Cotton, Burlington, ON, CAN 905)639-2929 >> Genealogy of the Cotton surname is my Enigma >> I haven't sent an attachment if the details are not mentioned above >> >> GOONS member responsible for tracking the family name, COTTON, #1437 >> Coordinator for Cotton DNA testing Project, Worldwide >> see http://home.comcast.net/~cottondna/ >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 9:18 AM >> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 39 >> >> >> >>> In a message dated 3/9/2008 4:07:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >>> [email protected] writes: >>> >>> >>>> However, that is not my main message. The add-on I would like to tell >>>> you >>>> about is called "PAF 5 datescanner". This program will scan all the >>>> dates in >>>> your PAF 5 data file and inform you of all those that are not in the >>>> correct >>>> format. >>>> >>> Good Morning from Chilly Florida >>> Could you please expand on what you mean by correct format? Is this >>> according to Mrs Mills Book on citations? Church format? Someone else's >>> format? >>> Formats as you put them in the system? >>> Thanks in advance >>> Doug Burnett >>> Satellite Beach >>> FL >>> >>> >>> ************** >>> It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & >>> Finance. >>> (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 08:04:19 -0700 > From: "Gary Templeman" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 38 > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > For the record, I have NEVER had PAF and PAF Insight crash and lose work, > and that includes my computer or to my knowledge anyone using the 7 > computers I maintain at our FHC. > > Gary Templeman > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Renee Zamora" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 10:51 PM > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 38 > > >> If they really want to stay with PAF I would recommend they go with >> Family >> Insight (previously known as PAF Insight) or Ancestral Quest. That way >> they >> can sync with New FamilySearch when it becomes available. >> >> Many may not be aware of it but Legacy and RootsMagic both have built >> into >> them a feature similar to PAF Insight and can search the IIGI and will >> sync >> with NFS. They have many more bells and whistles included in them and >> are >> cheaper than buying all those PAF add-ons they might be considering. >> >> These programs are free for FHCs and can be tried out there or you can >> download demo's from their website. I would recommend they try all the >> programs out there and then make their decisions. Just because they are >> familiar with PAF and consider it easier to use they might be surprised >> at >> how much user friendly the other commercial programs really are. At >> least >> with the IGI search features in Legacy and RootsMagic you don't get the >> disappointment of the program crashing after doing hours of work and >> loosing >> everything you got off the IGI like you see happen with PAF Insight and >> PAF. >> >> >> Renee Zamora >> www.harrisena.com >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 08:12:13 -0700 > From: "Gary Templeman" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 39 > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > The date scanner just reads the date fields, gives you a list and tells > you > the potential problem, such as a Feb 29 in a year that is not a leap year, > or extra characters that should not be part of a date. It is up to you to > make the changes. I have posted a sample of the output below. > > Gary > > > RIN: 250 -- Joan /Gaylord/ > death: W.D. APR 1634 > RIN: 407 -- Isabell /Harvey/ > baptism: 15 FEBV 1958 > RIN: 469 -- Christopher /Sydenham/ > death: W/D 15 MAY 1525 > RIN: 534 -- Joane (Jane) /Carminow/ > birth: 1427 (15-1443) > RIN: 560 -- Elizabeth /FitzWalter/ Baroness Dinham > death: BETW JUN 1483/AUG 1485 > RIN: 599 -- Henry /Beaumont/ Baron Beaumont > death: 17 JUN 25 JUL 1369 > MRIN: 16 -- Husband's RIN 24 Wife's RIN 25 > marriage: 25 JUN 1973 SL > MRIN: 222 -- Husband's RIN 176 Wife's RIN 823 > seal spouse: 30 MAR 1933 ALBER (PS) > MRIN: 476 -- Husband's RIN 512 Wife's RIN 513 > marriage: BEF ABT 1440 > MRIN: 505 -- Husband's RIN 567 Wife's RIN 568 > marriage: BTW 6 FEB 1435/6 & 23 MAR 1436/7 > MRIN: 557 -- Husband's RIN 547 Wife's RIN 1066 > marriage: NOT MD. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don Boudreaux" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 7:50 AM > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 39 > > >> That is an excellent point, when you see 1/12/1920. How can you tell if >> that is >> Jan 12, 1920 or Dec 1, 1920, if that format is used. >> >> Don Boudreaux >> >> Ross G.H. Cotton wrote: >>> The only CORRECT format is one that other People (the reader) will >>> understand what is meant. >>> >>> There are recommended formats. >>> >>> The one I use, based on 25 years of experience, is to ensure the month >>> is >>> shown in Characters, not numbers. This can be 12 Jan 1920, or Jan 12 >>> 1920, >>> or 1920 Jan 12. >>> >>> Any worthwhile genealogy program will facilitate one of the above >>> formats. >>> >>> >>> Ross GH Cotton, Burlington, ON, CAN 905)639-2929 >>> Genealogy of the Cotton surname is my Enigma >>> I haven't sent an attachment if the details are not mentioned above >>> >>> GOONS member responsible for tracking the family name, COTTON, #1437 >>> Coordinator for Cotton DNA testing Project, Worldwide >>> see http://home.comcast.net/~cottondna/ >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 9:18 AM >>> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 39 >>> >>> >>> >>>> In a message dated 3/9/2008 4:07:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >>>> [email protected] writes: >>>> >>>> >>>>> However, that is not my main message. The add-on I would like to tell >>>>> you >>>>> about is called "PAF 5 datescanner". This program will scan all the >>>>> dates in >>>>> your PAF 5 data file and inform you of all those that are not in the >>>>> correct >>>>> format. >>>>> >>>> Good Morning from Chilly Florida >>>> Could you please expand on what you mean by correct format? Is this >>>> according to Mrs Mills Book on citations? Church format? Someone else's >>>> format? >>>> Formats as you put them in the system? >>>> Thanks in advance >>>> Doug Burnett >>>> Satellite Beach >>>> FL >>>> >>>> >>>> ************** >>>> It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & >>>> Finance. >>>> (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 08:17:57 -0700 > From: Peter <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 38 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Renee Zamora" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 10:51 PM >>Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 38 >> >> > At least with the IGI search features in Legacy and RootsMagic you >> don't get the >> > disappointment of the program crashing after doing hours of work and >> > loosing everything you got off the IGI like you see happen with PAF >> Insight and PAF. >> > Renee Zamora > > > Renee, with one sentence you have lost all your credibility. > > Peter > > > My computer problems are caused by a loose nut > between the > chair and the keyboard. > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the PAF-5-USERS list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the PAF-5-USERS mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 40 > ****************************************** >