I did, I turned it off, exported the file, imported the file into a new .paf file, turned the relationship indicator on, pointing to me, et voila, still broken...Deleted the guy made a whole new him, deleted the "old" guy, linked in the normal way the new guy..still broken... Been using PAF since paf2, still have all of um on computers scattered around the house...(I think) Regards, Fred -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Vaughan Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:42 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Oddness Fred, did you reset the relationship indicators after making the latest additions to the database. I get caught out on that sometimes. Go to Tools -> Preferences -> goto the File tab Here you see "Relationship indicators" click on the Change button