Two problems with AQ, and as far as I know, all other software: 1. No capability of editing reports that are printed to file -- they print into Adobe. PAF Print-to-File opens in Word. Sometimes I think I'm the only one who edits reports, possibly because it's a little tricky. After you get the idea, editing is quite easy. 2. No capability of switching languages. It's very nice to use the non-English-speaking cousin's native language for reports. All the clues are in the target language. Notes, of course, remain in the language in which they are written. It's hard to understand why the Family History Department would abandon PAF, after they have gone to the trouble of creating and supporting these excellent features. I second the comment about the great help that's available from Gaylon at AQ. Lila ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 29 March, 2008 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF End-of-Life Announcement > > I believe either Legacy or Ancestral Quest would be a good choice.? > However, I believe I would go with AQ because of the great HELP that's > available from Gaylon. > > Howard Johnston > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Halliday <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:40 am > Subject: [PAF-5] PAF End-of-Life Announcement > > > > > All; > Yesterday I received the following from a friend. As a result I am > now looking at Legacy and Ancestral Quest. My tentative conclusion is > Ancestral Quest. Since it was the origin of PAF 4 & 5 it looks more > familiar, it appears to handle the source citations better, its date > modifiers (abt, bef, est, etc.) seem to be more familiar and it already > has at least a partial interface with new FamilySearch. > Comments? > Richard L. Halliday > West Linn, Oregon (where Winter Springs Right Back" {this > morning's Oregonian}) > "If the Lord wanted it done perfectly, > He would not let me help." > > "Also at the conference,it was announced that a group of developers has > created an extension to the PAF database file format allowing continued > use of PAF files with the new capabilities of NFS. Commercial programs > equipped with this extension will be able to support existing PAF files > while simultaneously providing the advantages and new features of NFS." > > Those "developers" are Gaylon Findlay (developer of Ancestral Quest) and > John Vilburn (developer of PAF Insight). Ancestral Quest 12 already > exploits some of the extensions when used in its "PAF mode". > > Gaylon made this presentation at the Developers Conference: > [Wed., March 12] 11:00 Gaylon Findlay > PAF SDK/ Sync (C++) > The basic layout of the PAF 5 database structure will be covered, along > with the basics of using the PAF 5 SDK provided by the Church. From this > base, we will discuss the recent changes engineered by Incline Software > and Ohana Software to allow syncing with the new FamilySearch Family > Tree. http://ce.byu.edu/cw/cwgeneal/familysearch > http://ce.byu.edu/cw/cwgeneal/familysearch/class_description.cfm > > "If you go here and scroll down to the schedule you will find links to > the presentations. The presentations are available in PowerPoint, PDF or > Adobe Connect. Adobe Connect gives you the screen capture with the audio > portion of the presentation. The next best thing to being there." > -Renee's Genealogy Blog : > http://devnet.familysearch.org/Members/clarkegj/march-3-2008-familysearch-developers-conference > > > --- Lesly Klippel <[email protected]: > > Subject: Future of PAF > > Here is an interesting item I found on the "Ancestry Insider" blog. > > Mike Benning > > ========================================== > > Gordon Clarke (Family History Department) read an official statement at > the FamilySearch Developers Conference today announcing future migration > paths available to users of the venerable PAF genealogy software. Once > New FamilySearch (NFS) is fully available, PAF users will have several > migration options available. Users can perform a one-time transfer of > their data to NFS, which like PAF, will be free. Or users can purchase a > commercial genealogy program, many of which are currently developing > support for NFS. Also at the conference, it was announced that a group > of developers has created an extension to the PAF database file format > allowing continued use of PAF files with the new capabilities of NFS. > Commercial programs equipped with this extension will be able to support > existing PAF files while simultaneously providing the advantages and new > features of NFS. > > The announcement is essentially an end-of-life announcement for PAF and > puts to rest rumors that PAF was dead already as well as rumors that > FamilySearch would make one more release of PAF with New FamilySearch > support. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Lila Said > 1. No capability of editing reports that are printed to file -- they print > into Adobe. PAF Print-to-File opens in Word. Sometimes I think I'm the > only > one who edits reports, possibly because it's a little tricky. After you > get > the idea, editing is quite easy. You are not the only one who edits reports. Is there a "work around" in AQ since I only have Acrobat Reader? Regards Ken Guilette South Barrington, IL USA ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF End-of-Life Announcement > Two problems with AQ, and as far as I know, all other software: > > 1. No capability of editing reports that are printed to file -- they print > into Adobe. PAF Print-to-File opens in Word. Sometimes I think I'm the > only > one who edits reports, possibly because it's a little tricky. After you > get > the idea, editing is quite easy. > > 2. No capability of switching languages. It's very nice to use the > non-English-speaking cousin's native language for reports. All the clues > are > in the target language. Notes, of course, remain in the language in which > they are written. > > It's hard to understand why the Family History Department would abandon > PAF, > after they have gone to the trouble of creating and supporting these > excellent features. > > I second the comment about the great help that's available from Gaylon at > AQ. > > Lila > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: 29 March, 2008 12:47 PM > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF End-of-Life Announcement > > >> >> I believe either Legacy or Ancestral Quest would be a good choice.? >> However, I believe I would go with AQ because of the great HELP that's >> available from Gaylon. >> >> Howard Johnston >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Richard Halliday <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:40 am >> Subject: [PAF-5] PAF End-of-Life Announcement >> >> >> >> >> All; >> Yesterday I received the following from a friend. As a result I am >> now looking at Legacy and Ancestral Quest. My tentative conclusion is >> Ancestral Quest. Since it was the origin of PAF 4 & 5 it looks more >> familiar, it appears to handle the source citations better, its date >> modifiers (abt, bef, est, etc.) seem to be more familiar and it already >> has at least a partial interface with new FamilySearch. >> Comments? >> Richard L. Halliday >> West Linn, Oregon (where Winter Springs Right Back" {this >> morning's Oregonian}) >> "If the Lord wanted it done perfectly, >> He would not let me help." >> >> "Also at the conference,it was announced that a group of developers has >> created an extension to the PAF database file format allowing continued >> use of PAF files with the new capabilities of NFS. Commercial programs >> equipped with this extension will be able to support existing PAF files >> while simultaneously providing the advantages and new features of NFS." >> >> Those "developers" are Gaylon Findlay (developer of Ancestral Quest) and >> John Vilburn (developer of PAF Insight). Ancestral Quest 12 already >> exploits some of the extensions when used in its "PAF mode". >> >> Gaylon made this presentation at the Developers Conference: >> [Wed., March 12] 11:00 Gaylon Findlay >> PAF SDK/ Sync (C++) >> The basic layout of the PAF 5 database structure will be covered, along >> with the basics of using the PAF 5 SDK provided by the Church. From this >> base, we will discuss the recent changes engineered by Incline Software >> and Ohana Software to allow syncing with the new FamilySearch Family >> Tree. http://ce.byu.edu/cw/cwgeneal/familysearch >> http://ce.byu.edu/cw/cwgeneal/familysearch/class_description.cfm >> >> "If you go here and scroll down to the schedule you will find links to >> the presentations. The presentations are available in PowerPoint, PDF or >> Adobe Connect. Adobe Connect gives you the screen capture with the audio >> portion of the presentation. The next best thing to being there." >> -Renee's Genealogy Blog : >> http://devnet.familysearch.org/Members/clarkegj/march-3-2008-familysearch-developers-conference >> >> >> --- Lesly Klippel <[email protected]: >> >> Subject: Future of PAF >> >> Here is an interesting item I found on the "Ancestry Insider" blog. >> >> Mike Benning >> >> ========================================== >> >> Gordon Clarke (Family History Department) read an official statement at >> the FamilySearch Developers Conference today announcing future migration >> paths available to users of the venerable PAF genealogy software. Once >> New FamilySearch (NFS) is fully available, PAF users will have several >> migration options available. Users can perform a one-time transfer of >> their data to NFS, which like PAF, will be free. Or users can purchase a >> commercial genealogy program, many of which are currently developing >> support for NFS. Also at the conference, it was announced that a group >> of developers has created an extension to the PAF database file format >> allowing continued use of PAF files with the new capabilities of NFS. >> Commercial programs equipped with this extension will be able to support >> existing PAF files while simultaneously providing the advantages and new >> features of NFS. >> >> The announcement is essentially an end-of-life announcement for PAF and >> puts to rest rumors that PAF was dead already as well as rumors that >> FamilySearch would make one more release of PAF with New FamilySearch >> support. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >> of >> the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Ken: First of all, AQ will also print some reports in RTF, so you can edit them in Word -- these are the two narrative reports, the Ahnentafel and the Modified Register. AQ will also print these two reports in WordPerfect format, for those who use WordPerfect rather than Word. AQ will also print most other reports in Text format, so that these could be edited or sent via e-mail to an associate. Now, here's the cool twist. Just as AQ can enhance PAF, in this area PAF can enhance AQ. If you are using AQ, and need to print a report that AQ doesn't handle in RTF format, just use PAF to produce the report. The fact that both AQ and PAF use the same .paf database allows you to do this without exporting or importing any data. Gaylon Ken Guilette wrote: > Lila Said > >> 1. No capability of editing reports that are printed to file -- they print >> into Adobe. PAF Print-to-File opens in Word. Sometimes I think I'm the >> only >> one who edits reports, possibly because it's a little tricky. After you >> get >> the idea, editing is quite easy. >> > > You are not the only one who edits reports. Is there a "work around" in AQ > since I only have Acrobat Reader? > > Regards > > Ken Guilette > South Barrington, IL USA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 1:06 PM > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF End-of-Life Announcement > > > >> Two problems with AQ, and as far as I know, all other software: >> >> 1. No capability of editing reports that are printed to file -- they print >> into Adobe. PAF Print-to-File opens in Word. Sometimes I think I'm the >> only >> one who edits reports, possibly because it's a little tricky. After you >> get >> the idea, editing is quite easy. >> >> 2. No capability of switching languages. It's very nice to use the >> non-English-speaking cousin's native language for reports. All the clues >> are >> in the target language. Notes, of course, remain in the language in which >> they are written. >> >> It's hard to understand why the Family History Department would abandon >> PAF, >> after they have gone to the trouble of creating and supporting these >> excellent features. >> >> I second the comment about the great help that's available from Gaylon at >> AQ. >> >> Lila >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: 29 March, 2008 12:47 PM >> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF End-of-Life Announcement >> >> >> >>> I believe either Legacy or Ancestral Quest would be a good choice.? >>> However, I believe I would go with AQ because of the great HELP that's >>> available from Gaylon. >>> >>> Howard Johnston >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Richard Halliday <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:40 am >>> Subject: [PAF-5] PAF End-of-Life Announcement >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> All; >>> Yesterday I received the following from a friend. As a result I am >>> now looking at Legacy and Ancestral Quest. My tentative conclusion is >>> Ancestral Quest. Since it was the origin of PAF 4 & 5 it looks more >>> familiar, it appears to handle the source citations better, its date >>> modifiers (abt, bef, est, etc.) seem to be more familiar and it already >>> has at least a partial interface with new FamilySearch. >>> Comments? >>> Richard L. Halliday >>> West Linn, Oregon (where Winter Springs Right Back" {this >>> morning's Oregonian}) >>> "If the Lord wanted it done perfectly, >>> He would not let me help." >>> >>> "Also at the conference,it was announced that a group of developers has >>> created an extension to the PAF database file format allowing continued >>> use of PAF files with the new capabilities of NFS. Commercial programs >>> equipped with this extension will be able to support existing PAF files >>> while simultaneously providing the advantages and new features of NFS." >>> >>> Those "developers" are Gaylon Findlay (developer of Ancestral Quest) and >>> John Vilburn (developer of PAF Insight). Ancestral Quest 12 already >>> exploits some of the extensions when used in its "PAF mode". >>> >>> Gaylon made this presentation at the Developers Conference: >>> [Wed., March 12] 11:00 Gaylon Findlay >>> PAF SDK/ Sync (C++) >>> The basic layout of the PAF 5 database structure will be covered, along >>> with the basics of using the PAF 5 SDK provided by the Church. From this >>> base, we will discuss the recent changes engineered by Incline Software >>> and Ohana Software to allow syncing with the new FamilySearch Family >>> Tree. http://ce.byu.edu/cw/cwgeneal/familysearch >>> http://ce.byu.edu/cw/cwgeneal/familysearch/class_description.cfm >>> >>> "If you go here and scroll down to the schedule you will find links to >>> the presentations. The presentations are available in PowerPoint, PDF or >>> Adobe Connect. Adobe Connect gives you the screen capture with the audio >>> portion of the presentation. The next best thing to being there." >>> -Renee's Genealogy Blog : >>> http://devnet.familysearch.org/Members/clarkegj/march-3-2008-familysearch-developers-conference >>> >>> >>> --- Lesly Klippel <[email protected]: >>> >>> Subject: Future of PAF >>> >>> Here is an interesting item I found on the "Ancestry Insider" blog. >>> >>> Mike Benning >>> >>> ========================================== >>> >>> Gordon Clarke (Family History Department) read an official statement at >>> the FamilySearch Developers Conference today announcing future migration >>> paths available to users of the venerable PAF genealogy software. Once >>> New FamilySearch (NFS) is fully available, PAF users will have several >>> migration options available. Users can perform a one-time transfer of >>> their data to NFS, which like PAF, will be free. Or users can purchase a >>> commercial genealogy program, many of which are currently developing >>> support for NFS. Also at the conference, it was announced that a group >>> of developers has created an extension to the PAF database file format >>> allowing continued use of PAF files with the new capabilities of NFS. >>> Commercial programs equipped with this extension will be able to support >>> existing PAF files while simultaneously providing the advantages and new >>> features of NFS. >>> >>> The announcement is essentially an end-of-life announcement for PAF and >>> puts to rest rumors that PAF was dead already as well as rumors that >>> FamilySearch would make one more release of PAF with New FamilySearch >>> support. >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >>> body >>> of >>> the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >