So -- if you started genealogy in your 20's like I did, if you started in 1885 as you said, you must be close to being an ancestor yourself -- and the oldest person Alive -- some where about 140 years old <G> Aloha and long life! Wayne, NH6K -----Original Message----- From: paf-5-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:paf-5-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Don Boudreaux Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 3:01 PM To: paf-5-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Life of PAF Hi: I have been doing genealogy since about 1885, I started out with PAF-2.1 and progressed to PAF 3.0 which I still use as my primary program. I have tried dozens of other programs, including PAF-4 and PAF-5 and can't find an easier or simpler program that works closer to the way I think. I also have Roots Magic,. which has a lot of great features, such as you can color code a person's ancestors or descendants with one click. That is a very handy feature in order to find who are all the descendants of your progenitor ancestor. In order to do this I just make a gedcom and import it to Roots Magic and check them. I have used Brothers Keeper, Legacy, Family Tree Maker and dozens of other programs over the years but stick with old 1997 PAF-3. If you want a program to be able to handle pictures and documents you need a more advanced program. I have not used Ancestral Quest in a long time, but it has a great advantage in that your data is compatible with PAF. There are free versions available of most of the above programs, it would be worth while to try them with just adding a couple dozen of your ancestry in them and see how you like them. Don Boudreaux Lafayette, La. On 2/20/2011 6:16 PM, Marg & Neil Andrews wrote: > I'm getting old and don't want to change from PAF, but I have > just introduced it to my niece. Perhaps it would be wise for her > to start her recording in a new program rather than having to learn > how to gedcom (I still haven't learnt that in ????? years!) > > Two listers have given Ancestry Quest a plug so that's sounding good. > Does anyone know what Brothers Keeper is like and any others. > > I tried a program years ago and hated it - could have been FTM - > from memory it came up in yellow. > Marg > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Maxwell"<smaxwl@earthlink.net> > To:<paf-5-users@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 8:31 AM > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Life of PAF > > >> I'm so sorry...I forget! Not everyone agrees with me that FTM isn't one >> of the majors. haha. I totally agree with you on that one. They are very >> proprietary in what they do and how they work. I gave up on FTM many, >> many years ago. And I don't think they have changed their focus either. >> >> Sue >> >> On 2/20/2011 3:09 PM, Ross G. H. Cotton wrote: >>> I don't think Sue has ever used a GEDCOM file with Family Tree Maker. >>> Believe me it doesn't move the Notes and other non basic data to the >>> proper >>> location. For that reason I don't use FTM as I know they developed their >>> own version for GEDCOM files. >>> Ross GH Cotton Burlington ON CAN 905)639-2929 > >> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Sue Maxwell"<smaxwl@earthlink.net> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 4:34 PM >>> To:<paf-5-users@rootsweb.com> >>> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Life of PAF >>> >>>> There are several great genealogy data managers out there. All of the >>>> major ones (if not all of them) follow the current gedcom standards. I >>>> think most of us know that genealogy has surpassed the existing gedcom >>>> restrictions. FamilySearch as well as another group of genealogists are >>>> now working on updating the gedcom standards. I'm sure that as soon as >>>> that happens all the vendors will implement those new standards into >>>> their existing software programs. They ALL transfer data that are >>>> covered in the gedcom standard. >>>> >>>> Genealogy has been moving at such lightening speed that we get >>>> frustrated when parts don't move as fast as we want them too. I guess >>>> it's a test of our patience! >>>> >>>> When it comes to passing data back and forth between different software >>>> packages the problem usually lies in the new bells and whistles we all >>>> want, but not every program has the ability to handle every other >>>> software's new features. It takes time and cooperation between them all. >>>> So the fact that new gedcom standards are being developed will move us >>>> closer to having better collaboration between programs and each other. >>>> >>>> I don't think the issue is necessarily which program you choose to >>>> migrate to, but rather acquiring the patience to look at each one and >>>> determine which one meets the majority of your needs. And today, it >>>> costs nothing to check out the other major programs. They each have a >>>> free version and all the family history centers have the full programs >>>> for you to test your data on. So, take your data and test it with each >>>> of the software programs. Just remember to use a copy of your data to do >>>> the testing. You will always have your original. >>>> >>>> Sue >>>> >>>> On 2/20/2011 9:37 AM, B.H. Kemp wrote: >>>>> Thank you, Sue Maxwell, for the info. >>>>> >>>>> It would be interesting to know what the List members chose for their >>>>> new >>>>> Program...... >>>>> >>>>> Roots Magic is being pushed hard by our local GS, and I have read >>>>> reviews >>>>> on several programs that they don't convert/accept Gedcom well, >>>>> requiring >>>>> many manual corrections. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3456 - Release Date: 02/20/11 > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you, of course I AM that old, that's why I make so many typos, OLD EYES! : > )) Don Boudreaux B:28 Apr 1932 On 2/20/2011 8:19 PM, Wayne Jones wrote: > So -- if you started genealogy in your 20's like I did, if you started in > 1885 as you said, you must be close to being an ancestor yourself -- and the > oldest person Alive -- some where about 140 years old<G> > > Aloha and long life! > Wayne, NH6K > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: paf-5-users-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:paf-5-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Don Boudreaux > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 3:01 PM > To: paf-5-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Life of PAF > > Hi: > I have been doing genealogy since about 1885, I started out with PAF-2.1 and > progressed to PAF 3.0 which I still use as my primary program. I have > tried dozens > of other programs, including PAF-4 and PAF-5 and can't find an easier or > simpler > program that works closer to the way I think. I also have Roots Magic,. > which has a > lot of great features, such as you can color code a person's ancestors > or descendants > with one click. That is a very handy feature in order to find who are > all the descendants > of your progenitor ancestor. In order to do this I just make a gedcom > and import it to > Roots Magic and check them. I have used Brothers Keeper, Legacy, Family > Tree Maker > and dozens of other programs over the years but stick with old 1997 > PAF-3. If you > want a program to be able to handle pictures and documents you need a > more advanced > program. I have not used Ancestral Quest in a long time, but it has a > great advantage in > that your data is compatible with PAF. There are free versions available > of most of the > above programs, it would be worth while to try them with just adding a > couple dozen of > your ancestry in them and see how you like them. > > Don Boudreaux > Lafayette, La. > > > On 2/20/2011 6:16 PM, Marg& Neil Andrews wrote: >> I'm getting old and don't want to change from PAF, but I have >> just introduced it to my niece. Perhaps it would be wise for her >> to start her recording in a new program rather than having to learn >> how to gedcom (I still haven't learnt that in ????? years!) >> >> Two listers have given Ancestry Quest a plug so that's sounding good. >> Does anyone know what Brothers Keeper is like and any others. >> >> I tried a program years ago and hated it - could have been FTM - >> from memory it came up in yellow. >> Marg >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sue Maxwell"<smaxwl@earthlink.net> >> To:<paf-5-users@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 8:31 AM >> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Life of PAF >> >> >>> I'm so sorry...I forget! Not everyone agrees with me that FTM isn't one >>> of the majors. haha. I totally agree with you on that one. They are very >>> proprietary in what they do and how they work. I gave up on FTM many, >>> many years ago. And I don't think they have changed their focus either. >>> >>> Sue >>> >>> On 2/20/2011 3:09 PM, Ross G. H. Cotton wrote: >>>> I don't think Sue has ever used a GEDCOM file with Family Tree Maker. >>>> Believe me it doesn't move the Notes and other non basic data to the >>>> proper >>>> location. For that reason I don't use FTM as I know they developed > their >>>> own version for GEDCOM files. >>>> Ross GH Cotton Burlington ON CAN 905)639-2929 >> >> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "Sue Maxwell"<smaxwl@earthlink.net> >>>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 4:34 PM >>>> To:<paf-5-users@rootsweb.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Life of PAF >>>> >>>>> There are several great genealogy data managers out there. All of the >>>>> major ones (if not all of them) follow the current gedcom standards. I >>>>> think most of us know that genealogy has surpassed the existing gedcom >>>>> restrictions. FamilySearch as well as another group of genealogists are >>>>> now working on updating the gedcom standards. I'm sure that as soon as >>>>> that happens all the vendors will implement those new standards into >>>>> their existing software programs. They ALL transfer data that are >>>>> covered in the gedcom standard. >>>>> >>>>> Genealogy has been moving at such lightening speed that we get >>>>> frustrated when parts don't move as fast as we want them too. I guess >>>>> it's a test of our patience! >>>>> >>>>> When it comes to passing data back and forth between different software >>>>> packages the problem usually lies in the new bells and whistles we all >>>>> want, but not every program has the ability to handle every other >>>>> software's new features. It takes time and cooperation between them > all. >>>>> So the fact that new gedcom standards are being developed will move us >>>>> closer to having better collaboration between programs and each other. >>>>> >>>>> I don't think the issue is necessarily which program you choose to >>>>> migrate to, but rather acquiring the patience to look at each one and >>>>> determine which one meets the majority of your needs. And today, it >>>>> costs nothing to check out the other major programs. They each have a >>>>> free version and all the family history centers have the full programs >>>>> for you to test your data on. So, take your data and test it with each >>>>> of the software programs. Just remember to use a copy of your data to > do >>>>> the testing. You will always have your original. >>>>> >>>>> Sue >>>>> >>>>> On 2/20/2011 9:37 AM, B.H. Kemp wrote: >>>>>> Thank you, Sue Maxwell, for the info. >>>>>> >>>>>> It would be interesting to know what the List members chose for their >>>>>> new >>>>>> Program...... >>>>>> >>>>>> Roots Magic is being pushed hard by our local GS, and I have read >>>>>> reviews >>>>>> on several programs that they don't convert/accept Gedcom well, >>>>>> requiring >>>>>> many manual corrections. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3456 - Release Date: 02/20/11 >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3456 - Release Date: 02/20/11 > >