Gosh, pretty much said what I was thinking word for word, Earl. Thanks! I have only used PAF - it's done for me what I need it to and after several years why mess with it. I've never even had to give it an oil change :) Like Earl, any new information I add by hand. I tend to just enter people, link photos, scanned documents, etc. I manage some information by simply adding it in the notes. But the comments being posted have me curious and many of you, no doubt, are interested in using a program with more bells and whistles, but I have to say I'm content with PAF-5 so will continue to use it and this wonderful list. Thanks everyone for all of your contributions...I learned a few new things today. Jayne Madison, WI ----- Original Message ----- From: Earl Park To: paf-5-users@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Life of PAF I started with PAF, and have stayed with it. I have a bunch of other genealogy software like FTM 2008, FTM 2009, Ancestral Quest, Family Insight and some others. I enter information and people every day and I use PAF 5.2.18 exclusively. The reason I have the other genealogy programs is so I can read other peoples files. I do NOT import anything into my data base, I add everything by hand only after I verify that information. Just a personal preference I have nothing against importing stuff I just like to "trust but verify", if you know what I mean. I can also say that this board has taught me more than one person or book could ever do. I thank you all for that. I have no plans on moving my data to other programs permanently. I, like others use other programs to look at my data and in some cases fix my data, but I always come back to PAF to do my real work. I have no plans of moving to any other board either. I hope I have been of some help like this, in the past, adding my 2-cents worth. I would truly be saddened if PAF and this board were to be no more. I will be loyal as long as my backup of my PAF program holds up. I will always be looking for that perfect software to compare to my PAF program until then I'm PAF all the way. Aloha, Earl in Hawaii ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marg & Neil Andrews" <margay@tadaust.org.au> To: <paf-5-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Life of PAF > I'm getting old and don't want to change from PAF, but I > have > just introduced it to my niece. Perhaps it would be wise > for her > to start her recording in a new program rather than having > to learn > how to gedcom (I still haven't learnt that in ????? > years!) > > Two listers have given Ancestry Quest a plug so that's > sounding good. > Does anyone know what Brothers Keeper is like and any > others. > > I tried a program years ago and hated it - could have been > FTM - > from memory it came up in yellow. > Marg > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Maxwell" <smaxwl@earthlink.net> > To: <paf-5-users@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 8:31 AM > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Life of PAF > > >> I'm so sorry...I forget! Not everyone agrees with me that >> FTM isn't one >> of the majors. haha. I totally agree with you on that >> one. They are very >> proprietary in what they do and how they work. I gave up >> on FTM many, >> many years ago. And I don't think they have changed their >> focus either. >> >> Sue >> >> On 2/20/2011 3:09 PM, Ross G. H. Cotton wrote: >>> I don't think Sue has ever used a GEDCOM file with >>> Family Tree Maker. >>> Believe me it doesn't move the Notes and other non basic >>> data to the >>> proper >>> location. For that reason I don't use FTM as I know >>> they developed >>> their >>> own version for GEDCOM files. >>> Ross GH Cotton Burlington ON CAN 905)639-2929 > >> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Sue Maxwell"<smaxwl@earthlink.net> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 4:34 PM >>> To:<paf-5-users@rootsweb.com> >>> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Life of PAF >>> >>>> There are several great genealogy data managers out >>>> there. All of the >>>> major ones (if not all of them) follow the current >>>> gedcom standards. I >>>> think most of us know that genealogy has surpassed the >>>> existing gedcom >>>> restrictions. FamilySearch as well as another group of >>>> genealogists are >>>> now working on updating the gedcom standards. I'm sure >>>> that as soon as >>>> that happens all the vendors will implement those new >>>> standards into >>>> their existing software programs. They ALL transfer >>>> data that are >>>> covered in the gedcom standard. >>>> >>>> Genealogy has been moving at such lightening speed that >>>> we get >>>> frustrated when parts don't move as fast as we want >>>> them too. I guess >>>> it's a test of our patience! >>>> >>>> When it comes to passing data back and forth between >>>> different software >>>> packages the problem usually lies in the new bells and >>>> whistles we all >>>> want, but not every program has the ability to handle >>>> every other >>>> software's new features. It takes time and cooperation >>>> between them >>>> all. >>>> So the fact that new gedcom standards are being >>>> developed will move us >>>> closer to having better collaboration between programs >>>> and each other. >>>> >>>> I don't think the issue is necessarily which program >>>> you choose to >>>> migrate to, but rather acquiring the patience to look >>>> at each one and >>>> determine which one meets the majority of your needs. >>>> And today, it >>>> costs nothing to check out the other major programs. >>>> They each have a >>>> free version and all the family history centers have >>>> the full programs >>>> for you to test your data on. So, take your data and >>>> test it with each >>>> of the software programs. Just remember to use a copy >>>> of your data to >>>> do >>>> the testing. You will always have your original. >>>> >>>> Sue >>>> >>>> On 2/20/2011 9:37 AM, B.H. Kemp wrote: >>>>> Thank you, Sue Maxwell, for the info. >>>>> >>>>> It would be interesting to know what the List members >>>>> chose for their >>>>> new >>>>> Program...... >>>>> >>>>> Roots Magic is being pushed hard by our local GS, and >>>>> I have read >>>>> reviews >>>>> on several programs that they don't convert/accept >>>>> Gedcom well, >>>>> requiring >>>>> many manual corrections. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3455 - Release > Date: 02/20/11 > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message