Nivard, follow these steps: Open the PAF data file you want to use. Click on "search" in the top menu line. In the drop down menu click on advanced focus filter In the find individual menu select all in the relationship filter box. Click on the select button. They should now all have a chevron in front of their names. Under field filter click on define. Select birth Place. In the next window select matches and enter the place name. Click OK. Click OK. Put a check in the show results only box. All of the individuals in your data file born in that place should now show. Click on the save button and give it a name. You can then retrieve this list by clicking on the retrieve button If you want to print them out in a report you need to create the report first. -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> To: paf-5-users@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, Nov 8, 2010 6:22 am Subject: [PAF-5] Simple report for a birthplace Hi all Although I have used PAF for quite a time and have used the preset reports ith it and PAF companion I have used the user defined reports very much Some work with no problem but one is causing me grief I want a simple report that I can search all persons in my database for a iven birth place Could someone give me the steps please Any help appreciated Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Kathy, The problem you are having may not be due to PAF errors. I have run into two problems which were my own doings. 1) When I open the Actual Text portion of Notes, anything already in it, is highlighted. If I strike any alphabet key, number, or hit the space bar BEFORE I clear the highlight, everything will vanish. If this happens exit by hitting Cancel NOT Save. I can then reopen the file and everything is back in place. 2) Another way I have lost what I have just typed in is to hit the wrong Windows shortcut key combination. We use Ctrl-V to past things into Notes, but there are a lot of other Ctrl-combos. A couple of times I hit one (not sure which one) and it closed me out of Notes. It asked if I wanted to same my work, so I said yes. I lost what I was working on. Just something to consider. Bea

Check/Repair works best if it finds an error? (g) In my case, there was nothing wrong with the database -- just data I had put into the NOTES vanished, sometimes in mid-sentence. :( Cheryl Gaylon Findlay wrote: > Kathy: > > From my experience, once you start having internal problems in a > section of the .paf database (such as notes), it will get worse until > you run Check/Repair and fix it. The GEDCOM export/import is a variation > -- it can fix some things that Check/Fix cannot solve (but check/repair > fixes some things that GEDCOM export/import just throws away). I would > always try Check/Fix first, and if that can't fix it, then I'd try GEDCOM. > > You might try two other tools. > > Ancestral Quest also works with a PAF database, and over the last couple > of years, it's Check/Repair feature has been enhanced to fix some things > that PAF's Check/Repair cannot fix. Also, FamilyInsight is a tool that > works with a PAF database, and it has its own way of resolving internal > problems in a PAF database. Both of these products have 60-day free > trials, so you could use them to try to fix your issue with notes at no > cost -- at least for 60 days. > > Gaylon > > > On 11/5/2010 1:25 PM, Kathy Campbell wrote: >> PAF's notes are straight text. Formatting codes are interpreted as text, so >> I wouldn't expect that to be the problem. Missing people and missing notes >> sometimes result from using two different versions of the same database, but >> you would probably have noticed that. >> >> Your problem could come from a corrupted copy of the software. If so, >> Removing and Installing the software would solve the problem. >> >> >> >> I think, though, that some of the codes used in certain databases online may >> not be text. I have found that if I do want to cut and paste something >> directly from the net, if I paste it into Notepad first, then into PAF, then >> I don't get as many errors. >> >> I was worried about the software, but I was afraid to reinstall it. >> >> Thanks. >> K

Kathy Campbell wrote: > I find that I'm having to run check file on my PAF file just about every > time I add new notes, otherwise I get pointer errors in the notes, and it's > beginning to bug me. I can't figure out this is happening - I keep wondering > if the note files are too big, or if something is being inserted in the > notes without my knowing it. Does anyone know could be causing this?? > > > > Thanks. > > Kathy Dunno, but I started having the problem soon after I switched over to PAF5. Stuff I /know/ I copied into the NOTES simply vanished...pages of it. Unfortunately, I didn't know that for several weeks after I put it in, when I went back to pull something out of it. :( If you figure out what's happening, please share. Like you, some of my missing material was copy'n'pasted from a webpage; some was plain-text copied from a webpage; some of keyed in by hand. I couldn't find a common denominator to what was missing, and several people assured me that I was having sequential, senior-moments with deja-vu. (g) Cheryl

FamilyInsight is the safest option for correcting problems with notes. When loading your file it automatically detects problems like the one you are experiencing. It will give you a report with the details in a more human readable form than PAF provides. Any corrective action it takes is listed in that report so you can verify that the problem was fixed correctly. There are cases where it is impossible for the software to tell which fix is correct, so having an understandable report is critical. John On Nov 5, 2010, at 9:25 AM, Kathy Campbell wrote: > > PAF's notes are straight text. Formatting codes are interpreted as text, so > I wouldn't expect that to be the problem. Missing people and missing notes > sometimes result from using two different versions of the same database, but > you would probably have noticed that. > > Your problem could come from a corrupted copy of the software. If so, > Removing and Installing the software would solve the problem. > > > > I think, though, that some of the codes used in certain databases online may > not be text. I have found that if I do want to cut and paste something > directly from the net, if I paste it into Notepad first, then into PAF, then > I don't get as many errors. > > I was worried about the software, but I was afraid to reinstall it. > > Thanks. > K > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

But, if you do use export/inport/new name file, you will probably "lose" the relevant information FamilyInsight saves about synced people in your file, and possibly matches..So consider that... Regards, Fred -----Original Message----- From: paf-5-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:paf-5-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gaylon Findlay Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 4:08 PM To: paf-5-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Notes Errors Kathy: From my experience, once you start having internal problems in a section of the .paf database (such as notes), it will get worse until you run Check/Repair and fix it. The GEDCOM export/import is a variation -- it can fix some things that Check/Fix cannot solve (but check/repair fixes some things that GEDCOM export/import just throws away). I would always try Check/Fix first, and if that can't fix it, then I'd try GEDCOM. You might try two other tools. Ancestral Quest also works with a PAF database, and over the last couple of years, it's Check/Repair feature has been enhanced to fix some things that PAF's Check/Repair cannot fix. Also, FamilyInsight is a tool that works with a PAF database, and it has its own way of resolving internal problems in a PAF database. Both of these products have 60-day free trials, so you could use them to try to fix your issue with notes at no cost -- at least for 60 days. Gaylon

PAF's notes are straight text. Formatting codes are interpreted as text, so I wouldn't expect that to be the problem. Missing people and missing notes sometimes result from using two different versions of the same database, but you would probably have noticed that. Your problem could come from a corrupted copy of the software. If so, Removing and Installing the software would solve the problem. I think, though, that some of the codes used in certain databases online may not be text. I have found that if I do want to cut and paste something directly from the net, if I paste it into Notepad first, then into PAF, then I don't get as many errors. I was worried about the software, but I was afraid to reinstall it. Thanks. K

Kathy: From my experience, once you start having internal problems in a section of the .paf database (such as notes), it will get worse until you run Check/Repair and fix it. The GEDCOM export/import is a variation -- it can fix some things that Check/Fix cannot solve (but check/repair fixes some things that GEDCOM export/import just throws away). I would always try Check/Fix first, and if that can't fix it, then I'd try GEDCOM. You might try two other tools. Ancestral Quest also works with a PAF database, and over the last couple of years, it's Check/Repair feature has been enhanced to fix some things that PAF's Check/Repair cannot fix. Also, FamilyInsight is a tool that works with a PAF database, and it has its own way of resolving internal problems in a PAF database. Both of these products have 60-day free trials, so you could use them to try to fix your issue with notes at no cost -- at least for 60 days. Gaylon On 11/5/2010 1:25 PM, Kathy Campbell wrote: > PAF's notes are straight text. Formatting codes are interpreted as text, so > I wouldn't expect that to be the problem. Missing people and missing notes > sometimes result from using two different versions of the same database, but > you would probably have noticed that. > > Your problem could come from a corrupted copy of the software. If so, > Removing and Installing the software would solve the problem. > > > > I think, though, that some of the codes used in certain databases online may > not be text. I have found that if I do want to cut and paste something > directly from the net, if I paste it into Notepad first, then into PAF, then > I don't get as many errors. > > I was worried about the software, but I was afraid to reinstall it. > > Thanks. > K > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

When my PAF file develops problems like that, I export All, create a new PAF file with a different name and import the gedcom. That way you get off to a fresh start with all new pointers. The old file can be kept as a backup. That's what I've been doing, but I was told that by doing that I might be messing the notes up. So far, I haven't found any notes messed up, but I keep wondering why this is happening so often now. I also wonder if it could have anything to do with cut and paste - say if you cut and paste from something on the internet, could there be some code used on some internet sites that is not compatible with PAF's note structure. As it is, I found out yesterday that a bunch of newspaper extracts that I had typed up into my notes have all disappeared. Thanks. Kathy

I find that I'm having to run check file on my PAF file just about every time I add new notes, otherwise I get pointer errors in the notes, and it's beginning to bug me. I can't figure out this is happening - I keep wondering if the note files are too big, or if something is being inserted in the notes without my knowing it. Does anyone know could be causing this?? Thanks. Kathy

Kathy, PAF's notes are straight text. Formatting codes are interpreted as text, so I wouldn't expect that to be the problem. Missing people and missing notes sometimes result from using two different versions of the same database, but you would probably have noticed that. Your problem could come from a corrupted copy of the software. If so, Removing and Installing the software would solve the problem. Bill On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Kathy Campbell <KatGCamp@bellsouth.net>wrote: > > When my PAF file develops problems like that, I export All, create a new > PAF > file with a different name and import the gedcom. That way you get off to a > fresh start with all new pointers. The old file can be kept as a backup. > > > That's what I've been doing, but I was told that by doing that I might be > messing the notes up. So far, I haven't found any notes messed up, but I > keep wondering why this is happening so often now. I also wonder if it > could > have anything to do with cut and paste - say if you cut and paste from > something on the internet, could there be some code used on some internet > sites that is not compatible with PAF's note structure. > > As it is, I found out yesterday that a bunch of newspaper extracts that I > had typed up into my notes have all disappeared. > > Thanks. > Kathy > > >

Kathy, When my PAF file develops problems like that, I export All, create a new PAF file with a different name and import the gedcom. That way you get off to a fresh start with all new pointers. The old file can be kept as a backup. -- Bill Buchanan website: http://billbuchanan.byethost17.com blog: http://billbuchanan.blogspot.com On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Kathy Campbell <KatGCamp@bellsouth.net>wrote: > I find that I'm having to run check file on my PAF file just about every > time I add new notes, otherwise I get pointer errors in the notes, and it's > beginning to bug me. I can't figure out this is happening - I keep > wondering > if the note files are too big, or if something is being inserted in the > notes without my knowing it. Does anyone know could be causing this?? > > > > Thanks. > > Kathy > > >

Bill, Fred and all the others, thank you for the responses. We had a pretty bad electrical storm here and I'm just back on line, and have succeeded in doing the gedcom route. It successfully entered the 9 people from the gedcom into the file I work in. And yes, I will always remember this lesson and not repeat it....hmmmm. Thanks again, you are a great group...Carol > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 21:48:23 -0600 > From: Bill Buchanan <genealogistbuchanan@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Entered new names in wrong PAF file > To: paf-5-users@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <AANLkTimnq-Ezf48ZiBTG7MfNn4-qOD3Uy-7Vgf+_O29s@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Carol, > > If you have PAF Insight or Family Insight, you can use the Compare and > Synch > function to open both files and copy those 9 people to the other database. > > If you don't have these products, you can export the records from the PAF > file in a gedcom file. You can select them using either the Relationship > Filters or use the Advanced Focus Filter to select the 9 highest RINs. > Then > import the gedcom into the other file and merge or link to attach them to > the family. > > A third alternative is a free clipboard expander. I use ClipX. > www.bluemars.org/clipx > That way the clipboard can hold 25 items at a time, which can then be > pasted > in the order of my choice. It sure beats copying and pasting one thing at > a > time! > Tip: Make sure each PAF file has a different name. > > -- > > Bill Buchanan > website: http://billbuchanan.byethost17.com > blog: http://billbuchanan.blogspot.com > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Lorac <radford2@bellsouth.net> wrote: > >> Yes, I've done it again. I am not a newbie to genealogy, I just never >> have >> had a handle on the different files in the PAF program. So therefore, I >> try >> and watch very closely Every time I back up it makes a new file. If I >> inadvertently click on the short cut to PAF that's on my desktop, I >> expect >> it to be the file I'm working in. Well, not so tonight. The last family >> I >> was researching (with 9 new entries) are in the other file. I do not >> know >> how it replaced my current file on my desktop, but it did. So, my >> question >> is: how can I, without retyping all those 9 new people and sources with >> notes, get them into my regular Paf file? >> >> I surely hope there is a solution!! If not, I will be up the rest of the >> night retyping...thank you. >> >> Carol >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 23:52:17 -0400 > From: "Fred" <unclefvp@verizon.net> > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Entered new names in wrong PAF file > To: <paf-5-users@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <020401cb74c1$2f668870$8e339950$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Export just those names to a gedcom, inport that gedcom to your file, then > link them.. > > Regards, Fred > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: paf-5-users-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:paf-5-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lorac > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 11:26 PM > To: paf-5-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PAF-5] Entered new names in wrong PAF file > > Yes, I've done it again. I am not a newbie to genealogy, I just never > have > had a handle on the different files in the PAF program. So therefore, I > try > and watch very closely Every time I back up it makes a new file. If I > inadvertently click on the short cut to PAF that's on my desktop, I expect > it to be the file I'm working in. Well, not so tonight. The last family > I > was researching (with 9 new entries) are in the other file. I do not > know > > how it replaced my current file on my desktop, but it did. So, my > question > is: how can I, without retyping all those 9 new people and sources with > notes, get them into my regular Paf file? > > I surely hope there is a solution!! If not, I will be up the rest of the > night retyping...thank you. > > Carol > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the PAF-5-USERS list administrator, send an email to > PAF-5-USERS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the PAF-5-USERS mailing list, send an email to > PAF-5-USERS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 5, Issue 157 > *******************************************

Thanks Cheryl Thats all I needed to know Again if you don't ask you don't get to know do you <g> Its not often I have needed the facility of two files open at the same time but it would have saved a tremendous amount of work if I had known then it could be done It should come in very useful We learn something new everyday they say :-) Having used PAF for quite some time I wonder what else its capable of that I haven't found yet I will take a gander at the tutorials again Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Do you prefer Schroedinger or Hisenberg? (g) > Hypothetically, yes, of course, there's a /chance/ of > corruption. > > Practically, I've never heard anyone SAY they had a problem. > > Cheryl

Does anyone know how to go about changing wrong information? I have found some relatives on Family search that have been sealed to the wrong person. How do we get this sealing changed in SL?

(G) Yeah, that's what I said when someone demonstrated it to me! Pass it on. Cheryl Rosemary Probert wrote: > That's neat - thank you! > > Rosemary > Northumberland UK > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On 26/10/2010 16:55, singhals wrote: >> 1. Open any PAF database >> 1a USE FULL_SCREEN >> 2. Click on WINDOW at the top of the PAF screen >> 2a I find Tile Vertically works best for me >> 3. resize by grab'n'drag the screen >> 4. open second db, and resize so you can see both at once. >> >> If you're using anything other than a full-screen view, >> you'll have trouble seeing both windows. >> >> Cheryl >> >> Nivard Ovington wrote: >>> Hi Cheryl >>> >>> I am not the OP (plainly :-) but how do you open two PAF files as the same >>> time? >>> >>> If I open one and then attempt to open a second it shuts the first one >>> >>> Just wondering ? >>> >>> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >>> >>> >>> >>>> open both databases in side by side windows in PAF. >>>> use Search by RIN to find the new people in one of 'em >>>> CAREFULLY use copy'n'paste to get them into the other one. >>>> >>>> Save the one you wish to consider your Regular PAF file. >>>> >>>> Close the other one. >>>> >>>> Cheryl

Do you prefer Schroedinger or Hisenberg? (g) Hypothetically, yes, of course, there's a /chance/ of corruption. Practically, I've never heard anyone SAY they had a problem. Cheryl Nivard Ovington wrote: > Thanks for that Cheryl , glad I asked now > > I tried as you suggested but seemingly got one database at a time , however > I tried cascade and that brought up the two, then Tile Vertically showed the > two > > I was not aware you could do this so it was worth asking about > > Is there any danger of corruption in either files? > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > >> 1. Open any PAF database >> 1a USE FULL_SCREEN >> 2. Click on WINDOW at the top of the PAF screen >> 2a I find Tile Vertically works best for me >> 3. resize by grab'n'drag the screen >> 4. open second db, and resize so you can see both at once. >> >> If you're using anything other than a full-screen view, >> you'll have trouble seeing both windows. >> >> Cheryl

Don't bother with support. With rare exceptions (temple work done on living people, etc) what is already done cannot be "changed". What can be done is get the correct information entered into the system and seal them to the correct people. Gary Templeman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob & Diane" <whitehillranch@centurytel.net> To: <paf-5-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] wrong info > e-mail at support@familysearch.org > > or 1-866-406-1830 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "IaRibbon/Duncan" <g.duncan@mchsi.com> > To: <paf-5-users@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 7:42 PM > Subject: [PAF-5] wrong info > > >> Does anyone know how to go about changing wrong information? I have >> found >> some relatives on Family search that have been sealed to the wrong >> person. >> How do we get this sealing changed in SL? >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.864 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3221 - Release Date: 10/26/10 > 11:34:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

e-mail at support@familysearch.org or 1-866-406-1830 ----- Original Message ----- From: "IaRibbon/Duncan" <g.duncan@mchsi.com> To: <paf-5-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 7:42 PM Subject: [PAF-5] wrong info > Does anyone know how to go about changing wrong information? I have found > some relatives on Family search that have been sealed to the wrong person. > How do we get this sealing changed in SL? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.864 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3221 - Release Date: 10/26/10 11:34:00

That's neat - thank you! Rosemary Northumberland UK ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On 26/10/2010 16:55, singhals wrote: > 1. Open any PAF database > 1a USE FULL_SCREEN > 2. Click on WINDOW at the top of the PAF screen > 2a I find Tile Vertically works best for me > 3. resize by grab'n'drag the screen > 4. open second db, and resize so you can see both at once. > > If you're using anything other than a full-screen view, > you'll have trouble seeing both windows. > > Cheryl > > Nivard Ovington wrote: >> Hi Cheryl >> >> I am not the OP (plainly :-) but how do you open two PAF files as the same >> time? >> >> If I open one and then attempt to open a second it shuts the first one >> >> Just wondering ? >> >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> >> >> >>> open both databases in side by side windows in PAF. >>> use Search by RIN to find the new people in one of 'em >>> CAREFULLY use copy'n'paste to get them into the other one. >>> >>> Save the one you wish to consider your Regular PAF file. >>> >>> Close the other one. >>> >>> Cheryl